From jhierro at tid.es Wed May 2 06:48:25 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 06:48:25 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA0BB77.4000807@tid.es> References: <4FA0BB77.4000807@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FA0BC99.6070004@tid.es> Hi all, This is just to inform you about progress regarding dates for the first year review. Please read bottom up. As you will see, our PO is proposing to have the review on June 25-26 but that would mean having no working day to devote to reharsal. I would probably require to have it during the weekend or have an additional travel to some place the week before ... I have shown my disappointment about this but I would like to get your feedback about whether we have to show even a stronger position against it. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 06:43:35 +0200 From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA To: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Dear Arian, June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the only option ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > Dear Juanjo, > > Apparently, June 25-26 is best. > Please confirm. > > Best regards, > Arian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM > To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) > Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" > Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review > > > Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks and > your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June 25th ? > > Best, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Dates for the first year review >> >> Dear Arian, >> >> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE first-year >> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and also >> prepare for it. >> >> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that the >> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a half), >> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >> >> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >> >> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will send to >> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo Hierro >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From GLIKSON at il.ibm.com Wed May 2 07:47:23 2012 From: GLIKSON at il.ibm.com (Alex Glikson) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:47:23 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA0BC99.6070004@tid.es> References: <4FA0BB77.4000807@tid.es> <4FA0BC99.6070004@tid.es> Message-ID: Having separate trip for rehearsal is very problematic. I would strongly prefer June 27-28th. Was this option raised? Let us know if there is anything we can do. Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Date: 02/05/2012 07:48 AM Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Hi all, This is just to inform you about progress regarding dates for the first year review. Please read bottom up. As you will see, our PO is proposing to have the review on June 25-26 but that would mean having no working day to devote to reharsal. I would probably require to have it during the weekend or have an additional travel to some place the week before ... I have shown my disappointment about this but I would like to get your feedback about whether we have to show even a stronger position against it. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 06:43:35 +0200 From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA To: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Dear Arian, June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the only option ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > Dear Juanjo, > > Apparently, June 25-26 is best. > Please confirm. > > Best regards, > Arian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM > To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) > Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" > Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review > > > Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks and > your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June 25th ? > > Best, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Dates for the first year review >> >> Dear Arian, >> >> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE first-year >> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and also >> prepare for it. >> >> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that the >> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a half), >> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >> >> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >> >> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will send to >> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo Hierro >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx _______________________________________________ Fiware-wpl mailing list Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Wed May 2 07:55:10 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 07:55:10 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] PLEASE READ Fwd: Document reflecting FI-PPP AB Discussion on issues regarding FI-PPP phases 2 and 3 In-Reply-To: <4F9E3AB4.1030703@tid.es> References: <4F9E3AB4.1030703@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FA0CC3E.1050402@tid.es> Hi all, Despite I guess that all of you are totally focused in the short-term milestones we are facing in FI-WARE, I would like to call your attention on a new and rather relevant topic. The FI-PPP AB has agreed that it would be important to clarify what the different roles and responsibilities of the different projects should be during phases 2 and 3 of the FI-PPP programme. The current Work Programme leaves some space to interpretation that we believe would be important to avoid, overall now that proposals to phase 2 will be under development. Among other things, regarding what they can expect from FI-WARE during the period that the project overlaps with phase, probably during second half of year 2, mostly year 3 of the FI-WARE project. But also with regard to the Technology Foundation continuation project that will come after FI-WARE, aiming to provide support to running trials in phase 2 of the program. Another important aspect to clarify is what is going to be the responsibilities of Trial projects and the Capacity Building project in phase 2. The goal is to develop a document that would be made publicly available sometime during May, most probably on the FI-PPP web site maintained by CONCORD. Such document should be used as some sort of "Terms of Reference" by proposers to the FI-PPP phase 2 call due on October this year. A draft of this document is already available, which is based on a first paper produced by INFINITY where we have added input coming as the result of some discussions that have taken place in recent FI-PPP AB meetings. In the attached mail, you can find a calendar of the steps that will be followed until the final document to be published is ready. As you will see, FI-PPP AB members were entitled to share the current draft with members of the consortia of the projects they represent in order to gather early feedback, mostly about strong disagreements/showstoppers. This is what I'm doing with you through this email. Nevertheless, there will be a second round of official comments on the consolidated draft, revised by the FI-PPP AB, that will be delivered by mid next week (i.e., May 9th) In order to collect early feedback from FI-WARE partners, I have produced an internal copy of the existing draft that we can not only comment but edit collaboratively. You can find it at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QgqZwWSzi5zxhNxACd8lRBzvgXlojswronVQOfJNF4I/edit Please take your time to review the document and try to provide your early feedback before end of this week. Do it on our internal copy. Probably you may wish to share this document with members of your team, since to some extend it elaborates on aspects that will affect anyone who is behind an implementation of a GE in FI-WARE and, consequently, will have to provide support on it. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Document reflecting FI-PPP AB Discussion on issues regarding FI-PPP phases 2 and 3 (jhierro at tid.es) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 09:09:40 +0200 From: Juanjo Hierro To: ab at fi-ppp.eu Hi all, It took more time that I expected, but finally I was able to compile a document regarding trade-offs and responsibilities in phases 2 and 3 of the FI-PPP programme. You should have received an email with the attached content from juanjose.hierro at gmail.com. If not, it is because you are not in the list I used for adding commentators, which is below my signature in this message. This has came at a very tough time where I have had to deal with a lot of things regarding the FI-WARE project. That's why I haven't been able to deliver it earlier. I apologize for the accumulated delay and I hope you will be indulgent enough. I believe I have been able to capture most of the content from the INFINITY original white paper as well as the agreements during discussions of the FI-PPP AB in Zurich. Please take into account that none of its contents should be considered "binding" by any project (including FI-WARE) at this moment. Nevertheless, it was agreed that the document doesn't need to be public right before the call for FI-PPP phase 2 is published, just soon enough (I would say before May). In the meantime, I will share the fact that we are preparing this document with the EC and start the discussion about how it should be published (who, where). At this point and following what was agreed during our last virtual meeting, but updating the dates for the different milestones, it is supposed that: 1. All of us will review the document and provide comments. I would suggest to re-plan the original milestone for collecting this comments to become end of this week (May 13th, EOB) so that I can produce a consolidated version by mid next week, i.e. May 16th EOB. 2. In the meantime, you can share this with your consortia if you wish to, in order to gather early feedback from them although you should mark it as being still in draft and under revision by members of the FI-PPP AB until mid next week. 3. Once we produce a consolidated version signed off by members of the FI-PPP AB, it will be delivered to the different consortia members for final official collection of comments. I would suggest closing this process by May 25th EOB so that we can produce a final document along the following week. If any of you disagree with this process and milestones, please let me know. I added the following list as explicit address able to comment on the document, despite I'm afraid (s)he has to sign-in in google docs ... I have kept editorial privileges on me because this time I guess we should be more careful and centralize the editing. Anyone with the link can view it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rglCQvPDIJi2FSQPlt3yIS_YugIwXvRU9b2CLlRlYPs/edit If anyone has another proposal on how I should assign the right privileges, please let me know. I look forward your comments on the document or feedback to this message. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro P.S.: The list of people I have registered to be able to comment on the document in Google docs: Adrie.Beulens at wur.nl andreas.metzger at paluno.uni-due.de Arne.J.Berre at sintef.no bosco.fernandes at huawei.com Denis.Havlik at ait.ac.at denis.mischler at technicolor.com elio.salvadori at create-net.org fano.ramparany at orange.com jaakko.talvitie at tivit.fi jani.kaarlejarvi at tivit.fi johannes.riedl at siemens.com jhierro at tid.es K.Moessner at surrey.ac.uk kolja.eger at siemens.com martin.2.wagner at atosresearch.eu michael.stollberg at sap.com ms at it-innovation.soton.ac.uk peretz at athenaiss.com roberto.gavazzi at telecomitalia.it slusallek at dfki.de stefan.arbanowski at fokus.fraunhofer.de susanna.avessta at tivit.fi thierry.nagellen at orange.com Tobias.Schlauch at dlr.de -------- Original Message -------- [Document] I've shared FI-PPP AB Discussion on issues regarding FI-PPP phases 2 and 3 Click to open: * FI-PPP AB Discussion on issues regarding FI-PPP phases 2 and 3 Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, spreadsheets and presentations. [Logo for Google Docs] ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Wed May 2 07:59:03 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 07:59:03 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Suspected Spam] Re: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: References: <4FA0BB77.4000807@tid.es> <4FA0BC99.6070004@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FA0CD27.80708@tid.es> On 02/05/12 07:47, Alex Glikson wrote: Having separate trip for rehearsal is very problematic. I would strongly prefer June 27-28th. Was this option raised? Let us know if there is anything we can do. Of course was raised. If you read my mail to Arian, you would find that, besides proposing several weeks, I suggested that the review be planned starting on Wednesday as the most suitable option. That would indeed map to June 27-28, in the case of the week starting June 25th. Question is ... should we simply say "NO WAY" to the idea of June 25-26 ? Bear in mind, BTW, that Arian told us, as early response to my initial mail, that the review should be planned in one of the last 3 weeks in June. Best regards, -- Juanjo Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Date: 02/05/2012 07:48 AM Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu ________________________________ Hi all, This is just to inform you about progress regarding dates for the first year review. Please read bottom up. As you will see, our PO is proposing to have the review on June 25-26 but that would mean having no working day to devote to reharsal. I would probably require to have it during the weekend or have an additional travel to some place the week before ... I have shown my disappointment about this but I would like to get your feedback about whether we have to show even a stronger position against it. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 06:43:35 +0200 From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA To: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Dear Arian, June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the only option ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > Dear Juanjo, > > Apparently, June 25-26 is best. > Please confirm. > > Best regards, > Arian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM > To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) > Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" > Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review > > > Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks and > your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June 25th ? > > Best, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Dates for the first year review >> >> Dear Arian, >> >> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE first-year >> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and also >> prepare for it. >> >> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that the >> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a half), >> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >> >> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >> >> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will send to >> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo Hierro >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Wed May 2 08:18:26 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 08:18:26 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Re: Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA0CD27.80708@tid.es> References: <4FA0BB77.4000807@tid.es> <4FA0BC99.6070004@tid.es> <4FA0CD27.80708@tid.es> Message-ID: Dear all, In his answer, Arian was not really opened to any other dates. Maybe he has also some constraints with the reviewers as we have only one week in common with what he proposed (the last 3 weeks of June). Maybe I missed a point as I was on vacation but why not to propose a slot on the previous week (18th of June) to show that we are also flexible? If it is not feasible we could come back on our proposal to have a 2 days review and use Monday as a rehearsal. The other option is to begin the review in Monday afternoon to have Monday morning for the rehearsal. Of course we will have to travel on Sunday evening but it is better than to work on Sunday. BR Thierry De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : mercredi 2 mai 2012 07:59 ? : Alex Glikson Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Re: Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review On 02/05/12 07:47, Alex Glikson wrote: Having separate trip for rehearsal is very problematic. I would strongly prefer June 27-28th. Was this option raised? Let us know if there is anything we can do. Of course was raised. If you read my mail to Arian, you would find that, besides proposing several weeks, I suggested that the review be planned starting on Wednesday as the most suitable option. That would indeed map to June 27-28, in the case of the week starting June 25th. Question is ... should we simply say "NO WAY" to the idea of June 25-26 ? Bear in mind, BTW, that Arian told us, as early response to my initial mail, that the review should be planned in one of the last 3 weeks in June. Best regards, -- Juanjo Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Date: 02/05/2012 07:48 AM Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu ________________________________ Hi all, This is just to inform you about progress regarding dates for the first year review. Please read bottom up. As you will see, our PO is proposing to have the review on June 25-26 but that would mean having no working day to devote to reharsal. I would probably require to have it during the weekend or have an additional travel to some place the week before ... I have shown my disappointment about this but I would like to get your feedback about whether we have to show even a stronger position against it. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 06:43:35 +0200 From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA To: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Dear Arian, June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the only option ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > Dear Juanjo, > > Apparently, June 25-26 is best. > Please confirm. > > Best regards, > Arian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es ] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM > To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) > Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" > Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review > > > Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks and > your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June 25th ? > > Best, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es ] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Dates for the first year review >> >> Dear Arian, >> >> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE first-year >> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and also >> prepare for it. >> >> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that the >> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a half), >> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >> >> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >> >> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will send to >> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo Hierro >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Wed May 2 08:35:39 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 08:35:39 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Suspected Spam] Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Re: Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: References: <4FA0BB77.4000807@tid.es> <4FA0BC99.6070004@tid.es> <4FA0CD27.80708@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FA0D5BB.70300@tid.es> We didn't propose the week of June 18th because of the results of the doodle poll in the first place (http://www.doodle.com/2umpvpu8taizri4s) but also because it was very close to the educational session the week of June 4th. I wouldn't mind proposing it to be on June 20-21 if all of us agree. Maybe this is an option for Arian and the POs ... I will check with him. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 02/05/12 08:18, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear all, In his answer, Arian was not really opened to any other dates. Maybe he has also some constraints with the reviewers as we have only one week in common with what he proposed (the last 3 weeks of June). Maybe I missed a point as I was on vacation but why not to propose a slot on the previous week (18th of June) to show that we are also flexible? If it is not feasible we could come back on our proposal to have a 2 days review and use Monday as a rehearsal. The other option is to begin the review in Monday afternoon to have Monday morning for the rehearsal. Of course we will have to travel on Sunday evening but it is better than to work on Sunday. BR Thierry De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : mercredi 2 mai 2012 07:59 ? : Alex Glikson Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Re: Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review On 02/05/12 07:47, Alex Glikson wrote: Having separate trip for rehearsal is very problematic. I would strongly prefer June 27-28th. Was this option raised? Let us know if there is anything we can do. Of course was raised. If you read my mail to Arian, you would find that, besides proposing several weeks, I suggested that the review be planned starting on Wednesday as the most suitable option. That would indeed map to June 27-28, in the case of the week starting June 25th. Question is ... should we simply say "NO WAY" to the idea of June 25-26 ? Bear in mind, BTW, that Arian told us, as early response to my initial mail, that the review should be planned in one of the last 3 weeks in June. Best regards, -- Juanjo Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Date: 02/05/2012 07:48 AM Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu ________________________________ Hi all, This is just to inform you about progress regarding dates for the first year review. Please read bottom up. As you will see, our PO is proposing to have the review on June 25-26 but that would mean having no working day to devote to reharsal. I would probably require to have it during the weekend or have an additional travel to some place the week before ... I have shown my disappointment about this but I would like to get your feedback about whether we have to show even a stronger position against it. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 06:43:35 +0200 From: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA To: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Dear Arian, June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the only option ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > Dear Juanjo, > > Apparently, June 25-26 is best. > Please confirm. > > Best regards, > Arian. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM > To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) > Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" > Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review > > > Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks and > your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June 25th ? > > Best, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Dates for the first year review >> >> Dear Arian, >> >> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE first-year >> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and also >> prepare for it. >> >> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that the >> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a half), >> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >> >> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >> >> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will send to >> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo Hierro >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:03:51 +0200 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Sorry, June 25-26 is the best option. Arian -----Original Message----- From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:43 AM To: Juanjo Hierro Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO); INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Dear Arian, As expected, several of the FI-WARE partners shared their concern with a review setup on June 25-26. Trying to find another alternatives ... it seems like June 20-21 may be an option ... it was discarded initially because of difficulties on the side of some partners but definitively looks better than June 25-26 which is rather an issue. Would that alternative work for you ? Definitively, June 27th-28th is the best, and we would kindly ask you to still consider it, but June 20th-21th maybe feasible. June 25th-26th looks rather problematic ... Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 02/05/12 06:43, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Dear Arian, > > June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working > day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the > only option ? > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Dear Juanjo, >> >> Apparently, June 25-26 is best. >> Please confirm. >> >> Best regards, >> Arian. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; >> jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review >> >> >> Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks >> and >> your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June >> 25th ? >> >> Best, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >>> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >>> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >>> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> >>> "Juan J. Hierro" >>> Subject: Dates for the first year review >>> >>> Dear Arian, >>> >>> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE >>> first-year >>> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and >>> also >>> prepare for it. >>> >>> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that >>> the >>> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >>> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >>> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >>> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >>> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >>> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >>> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a >>> half), >>> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >>> >>> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >>> >>> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >>> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will >>> send to >>> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >>> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> -- Juanjo Hierro >>> >>> ------------- >>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>> website: www.tid.es >>> email: jhierro at tid.es >>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>> >>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >>> >>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >>> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >>> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >>> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo >>> electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >>> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Wed May 2 10:15:01 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:15:01 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA0EADF.10409@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D0235D6@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <4FA0EADF.10409@tid.es> Message-ID: Is it possible to have a 1 day review or to use Monday morning for the rehearsal? In this case we need also a strong virtual rehearsal the week before to be well prepared for the review. BR Thierry De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : mercredi 2 mai 2012 10:06 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review Your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:03:51 +0200 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Sorry, June 25-26 is the best option. Arian -----Original Message----- From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:43 AM To: Juanjo Hierro Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO); INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Dear Arian, As expected, several of the FI-WARE partners shared their concern with a review setup on June 25-26. Trying to find another alternatives ... it seems like June 20-21 may be an option ... it was discarded initially because of difficulties on the side of some partners but definitively looks better than June 25-26 which is rather an issue. Would that alternative work for you ? Definitively, June 27th-28th is the best, and we would kindly ask you to still consider it, but June 20th-21th maybe feasible. June 25th-26th looks rather problematic ... Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 02/05/12 06:43, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Dear Arian, > > June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working > day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the > only option ? > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Dear Juanjo, >> >> Apparently, June 25-26 is best. >> Please confirm. >> >> Best regards, >> Arian. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; >> jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review >> >> >> Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks >> and >> your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June >> 25th ? >> >> Best, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >>> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >>> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >>> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> >>> "Juan J. Hierro" >>> Subject: Dates for the first year review >>> >>> Dear Arian, >>> >>> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE >>> first-year >>> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and >>> also >>> prepare for it. >>> >>> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that >>> the >>> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >>> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >>> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >>> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >>> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >>> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >>> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a >>> half), >>> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >>> >>> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >>> >>> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >>> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will >>> send to >>> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >>> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> -- Juanjo Hierro >>> >>> ------------- >>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>> website: www.tid.es >>> email: jhierro at tid.es >>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>> >>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >>> >>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >>> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >>> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >>> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo >>> electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >>> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send >>> and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. >>> http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx >>> . >>> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico >> en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send >> and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. >> http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx >> . >> ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx . ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Wed May 2 10:24:32 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:24:32 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] R: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA0EADF.10409@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D0235D6@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <4FA0EADF.10409@tid.es> Message-ID: We should first of all get the feedback of those people who didn't select the week of June 20-21 in the doodle, before proposing this option to the PO (while for me it would be fine). As an alternative, I share the opinion by Thierry: if we're going to have Monday morning for rehearsal meeting, we also need to hardly work via virtual meeting(s) the week before to prepare everything and then devote Monday morning to just finalise it. BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: mercoled? 2 maggio 2012 10:06 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review Your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:03:51 +0200 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Sorry, June 25-26 is the best option. Arian -----Original Message----- From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:43 AM To: Juanjo Hierro Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO); INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Dear Arian, As expected, several of the FI-WARE partners shared their concern with a review setup on June 25-26. Trying to find another alternatives ... it seems like June 20-21 may be an option ... it was discarded initially because of difficulties on the side of some partners but definitively looks better than June 25-26 which is rather an issue. Would that alternative work for you ? Definitively, June 27th-28th is the best, and we would kindly ask you to still consider it, but June 20th-21th maybe feasible. June 25th-26th looks rather problematic ... Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 02/05/12 06:43, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Dear Arian, > > June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working > day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the > only option ? > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Dear Juanjo, >> >> Apparently, June 25-26 is best. >> Please confirm. >> >> Best regards, >> Arian. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; >> jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review >> >> >> Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks >> and >> your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June >> 25th ? >> >> Best, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >>> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >>> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >>> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> >>> "Juan J. Hierro" >>> Subject: Dates for the first year review >>> >>> Dear Arian, >>> >>> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE >>> first-year >>> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and >>> also >>> prepare for it. >>> >>> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that >>> the >>> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >>> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >>> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >>> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >>> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >>> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >>> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a >>> half), >>> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >>> >>> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >>> >>> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >>> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will >>> send to >>> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >>> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> -- Juanjo Hierro >>> >>> ------------- >>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>> website: www.tid.es >>> email: jhierro at tid.es >>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>> >>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >>> >>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >>> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >>> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >>> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo >>> electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >>> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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In any case I do not play an important role in this review, so it is better that WPL feel comfortable with the date. However, I think those events/meetings are a limitation to have the review on the 20-21. My last comment is that I think that one morning is not enough for the rehearsal of a 1-year review. Best regards, Nuria de Lama Research & Innovation Representative to the European Commission T +34 91214 9321 F +34 91754 3252 nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Albarrac?n 25 28037 Madrid Spain www.atosresearch.eu es.atos.net ________________________________ From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Garino Pierangelo Sent: mi?rcoles, 02 de mayo de 2012 10:25 To: Juanjo Hierro Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] R: [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first yearreview We should first of all get the feedback of those people who didn't select the week of June 20-21 in the doodle, before proposing this option to the PO (while for me it would be fine). As an alternative, I share the opinion by Thierry: if we're going to have Monday morning for rehearsal meeting, we also need to hardly work via virtual meeting(s) the week before to prepare everything and then devote Monday morning to just finalise it. BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: mercoled? 2 maggio 2012 10:06 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review Your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:03:51 +0200 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Sorry, June 25-26 is the best option. Arian -----Original Message----- From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:43 AM To: Juanjo Hierro Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO); INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Dear Arian, As expected, several of the FI-WARE partners shared their concern with a review setup on June 25-26. Trying to find another alternatives ... it seems like June 20-21 may be an option ... it was discarded initially because of difficulties on the side of some partners but definitively looks better than June 25-26 which is rather an issue. Would that alternative work for you ? Definitively, June 27th-28th is the best, and we would kindly ask you to still consider it, but June 20th-21th maybe feasible. June 25th-26th looks rather problematic ... Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 02/05/12 06:43, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Dear Arian, > > June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working > day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the > only option ? > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Dear Juanjo, >> >> Apparently, June 25-26 is best. >> Please confirm. >> >> Best regards, >> Arian. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; >> jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review >> >> >> Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks >> and >> your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June >> 25th ? >> >> Best, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >>> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >>> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >>> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> >>> "Juan J. Hierro" >>> Subject: Dates for the first year review >>> >>> Dear Arian, >>> >>> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE >>> first-year >>> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and >>> also >>> prepare for it. >>> >>> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that >>> the >>> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >>> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >>> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >>> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >>> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >>> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >>> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a >>> half), >>> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >>> >>> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >>> >>> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >>> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will >>> send to >>> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >>> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> -- Juanjo Hierro >>> >>> ------------- >>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>> website: www.tid.es >>> email: jhierro at tid.es >>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>> >>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >>> >>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >>> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >>> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >>> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo >>> electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >>> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Name: image003.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image003.gif URL: From jhierro at tid.es Wed May 2 12:00:55 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 12:00:55 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D0235D6@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <4FA0EADF.10409@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FA105D7.7050507@tid.es> Having a short rehearsal the same Monday morning means that we have to have a strong preparation meeting the week before. I don't mind whether it is virtual or f2f, although I would prefer it to be f2f ... but if we go for a virtual one then WPLs/WPAs have to commit their full dedication during at least two calendar days, probably attending several confcall+webex sessions during then (for a total of at least 4 hours each day) and taking advantage of breaks to work on action points ... Feedback is welcome. We have to answer Arian. Either objecting to attend the dates he proposes or accepting his proposal but then committing ourselves to the above. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 02/05/12 10:15, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Is it possible to have a 1 day review or to use Monday morning for the rehearsal? In this case we need also a strong virtual rehearsal the week before to be well prepared for the review. BR Thierry De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : mercredi 2 mai 2012 10:06 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review Your feedback is welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Dates for the first year review Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 10:03:51 +0200 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Sorry, June 25-26 is the best option. Arian -----Original Message----- From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:43 AM To: Juanjo Hierro Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO); INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review Dear Arian, As expected, several of the FI-WARE partners shared their concern with a review setup on June 25-26. Trying to find another alternatives ... it seems like June 20-21 may be an option ... it was discarded initially because of difficulties on the side of some partners but definitively looks better than June 25-26 which is rather an issue. Would that alternative work for you ? Definitively, June 27th-28th is the best, and we would kindly ask you to still consider it, but June 20th-21th maybe feasible. June 25th-26th looks rather problematic ... Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 02/05/12 06:43, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Dear Arian, > > June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working > day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the > only option ? > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> Dear Juanjo, >> >> Apparently, June 25-26 is best. >> Please confirm. >> >> Best regards, >> Arian. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; >> jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review >> >> >> Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks >> and >> your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June >> 25th ? >> >> Best, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website: www.tid.es >> email: jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >>> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >>> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >>> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> >>> "Juan J. Hierro" >>> Subject: Dates for the first year review >>> >>> Dear Arian, >>> >>> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE >>> first-year >>> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and >>> also >>> prepare for it. >>> >>> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that >>> the >>> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >>> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >>> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >>> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >>> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >>> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >>> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a >>> half), >>> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >>> >>> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >>> >>> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >>> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will >>> send to >>> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >>> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> -- Juanjo Hierro >>> >>> ------------- >>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >>> website: www.tid.es >>> email: jhierro at tid.es >>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >>> >>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >>> >>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >>> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu >>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware >>> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >>> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo >>> electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >>> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send >>> and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. >>> http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx >>> . >>> >> ________________________________ >> >> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico >> en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send >> and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. >> http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx >> . >> ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx . ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Wed May 2 12:21:42 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 12:21:42 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA105D7.7050507@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D0235D6@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <4FA0EADF.10409@tid.es> <4FA105D7.7050507@tid.es> Message-ID: dear juanjo and all, i'm very surpised for the behaviour of arian, really a lot. he should well know that for preparing a review a good rehearsal is more than needed. i still would push juanjo to call arian (not sending emails!!!) and checking with him suitable dates. this review is crucial! if nothing else is possible than to have a review on monday and tuesday, than is useless to have a short rehearsal the same morning, but we must to have a good and strong rehearsal before. of course the bes is to have f2f on the weekend, but understanding the "family" issue, my suggestion is to have the week before several phc where to discuss the various presentations. still i think juanjo should discuss what arian expects from this review with him directly on top of this we should have a story to tell, not just plain presentations of the achievements otherwise the review migth not only be boring, but also will not convey the precise message we want them to get: *fi-ware is useful for the european economy as a mean to foster new economical developments being accessible to all (etc.)* . this message should be prepared and pursued throughout the whole review, just listing the achievements may put everything in a week position as there is no the why (economical and societal other than technological) of our choices. more than to show our choices, we have to explain why we made them!!! so the week before several phc, not too long otherwise impossible to follow and too tiring, say everyday two hours (9-11). ciao, stefano 2012/5/2 Juanjo Hierro > > Having a short rehearsal the same Monday morning means that we have to > have a strong preparation meeting the week before. I don't mind whether > it is virtual or f2f, although I would prefer it to be f2f ... but if we go > for a virtual one then WPLs/WPAs have to *commit* their full dedication > during at least two calendar days, probably attending several > confcall+webex sessions during then (for a total of at least 4 hours each > day) and taking advantage of breaks to work on action points ... > > Feedback is welcome. We have to answer Arian. Either objecting to > attend the dates he proposes or accepting his proposal but then committing > ourselves to the above. > > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > On 02/05/12 10:15, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: > > Is it possible to have a 1 day review or to use Monday morning for the > rehearsal? In this case we need also a strong virtual rehearsal the week > before to be well prepared for the review. > > > > BR > > > > Thierry > > > > *De :* fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [ > mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] > *De la part de* Juanjo Hierro > *Envoy? :* mercredi 2 mai 2012 10:06 > *? :* fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu > *Objet :* [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year > review > > > > > Your feedback is welcome. > > Cheers, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > website: www.tid.es > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > *Subject: * > > RE: Dates for the first year review > > *Date: * > > Wed, 2 May 2012 10:03:51 +0200 > > *From: * > > Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu > > *To: * > > JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA > > *CC: * > > INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu , > JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , MIGUEL CARRILLO > PACHECO > > > > Sorry, June 25-26 is the best option. > > Arian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es ] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:43 AM > > To: Juanjo Hierro > > Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO); INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" > > Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review > > > > Dear Arian, > > > > As expected, several of the FI-WARE partners shared their concern > > with a review setup on June 25-26. > > > > Trying to find another alternatives ... it seems like June 20-21 may > > be an option ... it was discarded initially because of difficulties on > > the side of some partners but definitively looks better than June 25-26 > > which is rather an issue. > > > > Would that alternative work for you ? Definitively, June 27th-28th > > is the best, and we would kindly ask you to still consider it, but June > > 20th-21th maybe feasible. June 25th-26th looks rather problematic ... > > > > Best regards, > > > > -- Juanjo > > > > ------------- > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > website: www.tid.es > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > > > On 02/05/12 06:43, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > > > Dear Arian, > > > > > > June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working > > > day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the > > > only option ? > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > -- Juanjo > > > > > > ------------- > > > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > > website: www.tid.es > > > email: jhierro at tid.es > > > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > > > > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > > > > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > > > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > > > > > > > > On 30/04/12 09:18, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > > >> Dear Juanjo, > > >> > > >> Apparently, June 25-26 is best. > > >> Please confirm. > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> Arian. > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es ] > > >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM > > >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) > > >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; > > >> jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" > > >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review > > >> > > >> > > >> Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks > > >> and > > >> your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June > > >> 25th ? > > >> > > >> Best, > > >> > > >> -- Juanjo > > >> > > >> ------------- > > >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > >> website: www.tid.es > > >> email: jhierro at tid.es > > >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > >> > > >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > >> > > >> You can follow FI-WARE at: > > >> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > >> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > >> > > >> > > >> On 26/04/12 09:23, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: > > >>> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es ] > > >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM > > >>> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) > > >>> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> > > >>> "Juan J. Hierro" > > >>> Subject: Dates for the first year review > > >>> > > >>> Dear Arian, > > >>> > > >>> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE > > >>> first-year > > >>> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and > > >>> also > > >>> prepare for it. > > >>> > > >>> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that > > >>> the > > >>> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options > > >>> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. > > >>> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the > > >>> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one > > >>> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we > > >>> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a > > >>> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a > > >>> half), > > >>> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. > > >>> > > >>> We guess it would take place in Brussels. > > >>> > > >>> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. > > >>> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will > > >>> send to > > >>> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may > > >>> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. > > >>> > > >>> Best regards, > > >>> > > >>> -- Juanjo Hierro > > >>> > > >>> ------------- > > >>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > > >>> website: www.tid.es > > >>> email: jhierro at tid.es > > >>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > >>> > > >>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > >>> > > >>> You can follow FI-WARE at: > > >>> website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > > >>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > > >>> twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > > >>> linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ________________________________ > > >>> > > >>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From matteo.melideo at eng.it Wed May 2 12:47:40 2012 From: matteo.melideo at eng.it (Matteo Melideo) Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 12:47:40 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA105D7.7050507@tid.es> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D0235D6@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> <4FA0EADF.10409@tid.es> <4FA105D7.7050507@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FA110CC.5000304@eng.it> Dear Juanjo, I was on holiday I back just today. I think Arian perfectly know about the complexities of having a review for a project like FI-WARE and then the importance of a rehearsal for this. In addition to this, it seems that the week before there are other EU meetings clashing with the potential review. I don't see why it is not possible to ask for a review on Wed and Thursday instead of Mon and Tue. My two cents M. Il 02/05/2012 12:00, Juanjo Hierro ha scritto: > > Having a short rehearsal the same Monday morning means that we have > to have a strong preparation meeting the week before. I don't mind > whether it is virtual or f2f, although I would prefer it to be f2f ... > but if we go for a virtual one then WPLs/WPAs have to *commit* their > full dedication during at least two calendar days, probably attending > several confcall+webex sessions during then (for a total of at least 4 > hours each day) and taking advantage of breaks to work on action > points ... > > Feedback is welcome. We have to answer Arian. Either objecting > to attend the dates he proposes or accepting his proposal but then > committing ourselves to the above. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website:www.tid.es > email:jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website:http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 02/05/12 10:15, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: >> >> Is it possible to have a 1 day review or to use Monday morning for >> the rehearsal? In this case we need also a strong virtual rehearsal >> the week before to be well prepared for the review. >> >> BR >> >> Thierry >> >> *De :*fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu >> [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] *De la part de* Juanjo >> Hierro >> *Envoy? :* mercredi 2 mai 2012 10:06 >> *? :* fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu >> *Objet :* [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Fwd: RE: Dates for the first >> year review >> >> >> Your feedback is welcome. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website:www.tid.es >> email:jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website:http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> >> *Subject: * >> >> >> >> RE: Dates for the first year review >> >> *Date: * >> >> >> >> Wed, 2 May 2012 10:03:51 +0200 >> >> *From: * >> >> >> >> Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu >> >> >> *To: * >> >> >> >> JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA >> >> *CC: * >> >> >> >> INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu >> >> , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO >> , MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO >> >> >> Sorry, June 25-26 is the best option. >> Arian >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:43 AM >> To: Juanjo Hierro >> Cc: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO); INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review >> >> Dear Arian, >> >> As expected, several of the FI-WARE partners shared their concern >> with a review setup on June 25-26. >> >> Trying to find another alternatives ... it seems like June 20-21 may >> be an option ... it was discarded initially because of difficulties on >> the side of some partners but definitively looks better than June 25-26 >> which is rather an issue. >> >> Would that alternative work for you ? Definitively, June 27th-28th >> is the best, and we would kindly ask you to still consider it, but June >> 20th-21th maybe feasible. June 25th-26th looks rather problematic ... >> >> Best regards, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> ------------- >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> website:www.tid.es >> email:jhierro at tid.es >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> website:http://www.fi-ware.eu >> facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware >> linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> On 02/05/12 06:43, Juanjo Hierro wrote: >> > Dear Arian, >> > >> > June 25-26 means that we cannot organize any reharsal on a working >> > day that week ... I would strongly argue about that ... ? is this the >> > only option ? >> > >> > Best regards, >> > >> > -- Juanjo >> > >> > ------------- >> > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> > website:www.tid.es >> > email:jhierro at tid.es >> > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> > >> > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> > >> > You can follow FI-WARE at: >> > website:http://www.fi-ware.eu >> > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware >> > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> > >> > >> > On 30/04/12 09:18,Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> >> Dear Juanjo, >> >> >> >> Apparently, June 25-26 is best. >> >> Please confirm. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Arian. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> >> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:58 PM >> >> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> >> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; >> >> jhierro>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> >> Subject: Re: Dates for the first year review >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks. Considering the intersection between the proposed weeks >> >> and >> >> your response ... Should we then plan it for the week starting June >> >> 25th ? >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> >> >> ------------- >> >> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> >> website:www.tid.es >> >> email:jhierro at tid.es >> >> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >> >> >> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >> >> >> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> >> website:http://www.fi-ware.eu >> >> facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> >> twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware >> >> linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >> >> >> >> >> On 26/04/12 09:23,Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu wrote: >> >>> Quick answer: in the last 3 weeks of June >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] >> >>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:22 AM >> >>> To: ZWEGERS Arian (INFSO) >> >>> Cc: INFSO-ICT-285248; Jose Jimenez; Miguel Carrillo; jhierro>> >> >>> "Juan J. Hierro" >> >>> Subject: Dates for the first year review >> >>> >> >>> Dear Arian, >> >>> >> >>> We would like to know when do you plan to have the FI-WARE >> >>> first-year >> >>> review. This would help us to arrange trips enough in advance and >> >>> also >> >>> prepare for it. >> >>> >> >>> Based on availability of FI-WARE WPLs and WPAs, we believe that >> >>> the >> >>> best week for it would be the week starting June 25th. Second options >> >>> could be three following weeks, starting on July 2nd, 9th and 16th. >> >>> Definitively, we believe that it should be programmed after the >> >>> educational sessions programmed with the UC projects (the second one >> >>> will be celebrated the week of June 4th, as you may know) so that we >> >>> present some insights from them. I would suggest that it starts on a >> >>> Wednesday. I guess we should plan it for two days (or one and a >> >>> half), >> >>> then it would go Wednesday and Thursday. >> >>> >> >>> We guess it would take place in Brussels. >> >>> >> >>> Please let us know when you believe the review should be planned. >> >>> In the meantime, we will work on a tentative agenda that we will >> >>> send to >> >>> you as soon as we have produced a draft. Of course, any input you may >> >>> provide for the preparation of the agenda is more than welcome. >> >>> >> >>> Best regards, >> >>> >> >>> -- Juanjo Hierro >> >>> >> >>> ------------- >> >>> Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital >> >>> website:www.tid.es >> >>> email:jhierro at tid.es >> >>> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro >> >>> >> >>> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect >> >>> >> >>> You can follow FI-WARE at: >> >>> website:http://www.fi-ware.eu >> >>> facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 >> >>> twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware >> >>> linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede >> >>> consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo >> >>> electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. >> >>> This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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The calendar to be followed is slightly different from one topic to the other, but adopt the same schema: * Regarding the BM&BE topic: * Deadline for acceptance by evaluators - 04/05/12 12:00pm * Self-training (about FI-WARE project) by evaluators - 04/05/12 - 07/05/12 * Audio conference involving FI-WARE team representatives and evaluators - 08/05/2012 * Assignment of Proposals for review and start of evaluation - 08/05/12 * Evaluation of proposals - 08/05/12 - 14/05/12 * Evaluation forms filled by each evaluator and sent to subsidies at tid.es: 14/05/12 * Virtual meeting for consensus and individual proposal's Evaluation Summary Reports elaboration - 16/05/2012 * Edition of Open Call Evaluation Report (to be carried out by FI-WARE) - 16/05/12 - 31/05/12 * Open Call Evaluation Report sent to the EC (to be carried out by FI-WARE) - 31/05/12 * Regarding the middleware topic: * Deadline for acceptance by evaluators (you) - 04/05/12 12:00pm * Self-training (about FI-WARE project) by evaluators - 04/05/12 - 07/05/12 * Audio conference involving FI-WARE team representatives and evaluators - 08/05/2012 * Assignment of Proposals for review and start of evaluation - 08/05/12 * Evaluation of proposals - 08/05/12 - 15/05/12 * Evaluation forms filled by each evaluator and sent to subsidies at tid.es: 15/05/12 * Virtual meeting for consensus and individual proposal's Evaluation Summary Reports elaboration - 17/05/2012 * Edition of Open Call Evaluation Report (to be carried out by FI-WARE) - 17/05/12 - 31/05/12 * Open Call Evaluation Report sent to the EC (to be carried out by FI-WARE) - 31/05/12 Independent evaluators have been defined for each topic: * Regarding the BM&BE topic: * Invited evaluators: Florian Urmetzer (Accenture), Man-Sze Li (IC Focus, FI-WARE project reviewer) * backup evaluators: Volker Hoyer (Bertelsmann) * Regarding the Middleware topic: * Invited evaluators: Schahram Dustdar (Vienna Univ), Rafael Navajo (GMV), Dominic Greenwood (Whitestein Technologies AG, FI-WARE project reviewer) * backup evaluators: Lutz Schubert (University of Stuttgart), Dora Varvarigou (NTUA) I'll keep you informed about progress. I would like to get SAP's team involved in the BM&BE evaluation process (particularly in the confcall planned for May 8th where they would have the opportunity to share their expectations with the evaluators, but also during the consensus building meeting). Also Stefano as second representative in the FI-PPP AB. Of course, anyone else is welcome. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Name: FI-WARE Proposals Open Call 1.xlsx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.spreadsheetml.sheet Size: 19760 bytes Desc: not available URL: From ste.depanfilis at gmail.com Wed May 2 09:05:19 2012 From: ste.depanfilis at gmail.com (ste.depanfilis at gmail.com) Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:05:19 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] R: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Re: [Suspected Spam] Re: Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review In-Reply-To: <4FA0D5BB.70300@tid.es> References: <4FA0BB77.4000807@tid.es> <4FA0BC99.6070004@tid.es> <4FA0CD27.80708@tid.es> <4FA0D5BB.70300@tid.es> Message-ID: <685080372-1335942184-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-750542753-@b2.c14.bise7.blackberry> Dear juanjo and all, Having a review without a rehearsal is always problematic, in a project like fi-ware is a suicide! Juanjo, please explain this to aria, find with him new dates and tell us withiut another poll. People in fi-ware will adjust their own agendas. Ciao Stefano Le mail ti raggiungono ovunque con BlackBerry? from Vodafone! -----Original Message----- From: Juanjo Hierro Sender: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 08:35:39 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com Cc: fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] Re: [Suspected Spam] Re: Fwd: Re: Dates for the first year review _______________________________________________ Fiware-wpl mailing list Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Fri May 4 10:27:17 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 10:27:17 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Concerns with deliverables process and content... and solutions to identify before review Message-ID: Dear all, I would raise here a main concern regarding how we are managing our deliverables. Basically and since the beginning of the project we are late for all deliverables and it will be a strong concern for our Project Officer and our reviewers in less than 2 months during the review. We can split our deliverables into 2 categories: technical deliverables where all technical chapters have to provide their own content, and classical deliverables directly related to a dedicated WP. For the technical deliverables, my feeling and the feedback from IoT team is that we never have the ToC on time, which is normally 2 months before to deliver the final version, and when we have the ToC, guidelines are always moving especially during the last 2 weeks because the technical chapters did not really apply the guidelines (or because we are not able to manage correctly the consistency between chapters). In the case of these technical deliverables, the rule we apply is that Telefonica is the Editor because Telefonica is the chief architect. My main question here is: what is the role of WP2 till the beginning of the project? Could we use this place to prepare and discuss the ToC together in this place and maintain it or just small changes to avoid writing something in a rush at the last minute? We could also define the GANTT with the expected deliverables and when the ToC should be ready. For the classical deliverables, there are not managed as a first priority till now and we have the same concern regarding the ToC definition and who is responsible of what. Very often the only names put in a deliverable are WP Leader or WP Architect and each technical team has to manage partner's contribution. When the same partners are involved in several WPs, it is very difficult to coordinate contributions and at the end to reach a good quality for the deliverable. What should be clearly stated is that if the skeleton of the deliverable is moving, the editor is responsible to adapt previous contribution to the new framework and not to ask 70 people to do the same work twice or three times. For both categories of deliverables, wiki format is for me not the right format to have working document. To track changes or to put right formats take too much time especially when we change the skeleton. Furthermore, we have no clear rules first for the private deliverables how they will be published on the wiki (I've sent a previous email on this subject for exploitation deliverable but did not receive any answer) and how the existing public information is managed and by whom to introduce some changes. I think all these points are also of my responsibility as WP leader because we spend too much time to write several times the same content in different ways, we are late for all deliverables and we create lots of noise around technical tasks and middleware we have to deliver. We will have to explain all these points to the Commission in 2 months so we have to identify solutions and be able to improve our project management to avoid any crisis with the Commission. I'm opened for any suggestions but my first proposals are the following: * Organize WP2 meetings to define ToC and guidelines for technical deliverables * Provide a GANTT for all further deliverables * Use mainly word document to be able to track easily all changes and for private deliverables * Based on the ToC allow responsibilities to editor and main contributors Best regards. 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URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Fri May 4 11:09:56 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 11:09:56 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Concerns with deliverables process and content... and solutions to identify before review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: dear thierry, thank you for rising so important issues! i agree the toc should be agreed basically at the start of the work on the specific task, to avoid people to loose time on unnecessary aspects of the work, and i agree also that wp2 should lead the discussion on this aspect for what concerns technical deliverables. i also suggest to distribute the assement of the deliverable between people, normally two rewing persons outside the specific wp or outside the team who actually wrote the deliverable, to speed-up the actual submission of deliverables. using word (standaolne text based editors) is against the phylosophy of the project that we all agree since the beginning. changing this policy is a matter of the pcc, but i'm reluctant to do so. by the way, there is aspecific function which allows you to check the changes made per each wiki page. 2012/5/4 > Dear all,**** > > ** ** > > I would raise here a main concern regarding how we are managing our > deliverables. Basically and since the beginning of the project we are late > for all deliverables and it will be a strong concern for our Project > Officer and our reviewers in less than 2 months during the review.**** > > ** ** > > We can split our deliverables into 2 categories: technical deliverables > where all technical chapters have to provide their own content, and > classical deliverables directly related to a dedicated WP.**** > > ** ** > > F or the t feeling and the feedback from IoT team is that we never have > the ToC on time, which is normally 2 months before to deliver the final > version, and when we have the ToC, guidelines are always moving especially > during the last 2 weeks because the technical chapters did not really apply > the guidelines (or because we are not able to manage correctly the > consistency between chapters). In the case of these technical deliverables, > the rule we apply is that Telefonica is the Editor because Telefonica is > the chief architect. My main question here is: what is the role of WP2 till > the beginning of the project? Could we use this place to prepare and > discuss the ToC together in this place and maintain it or just small > changes to avoid writing something in a rush at the last minute?**** > > We could also define the GANTT with the expected deliverables and when the > ToC should be ready.**** > > **&nb ass=MsoNormal>For the classical deliverables, there are not managed > as a first priority till now and we have the same concern regarding the ToC > definition and who is responsible of what. Very often the only names put in > a deliverable are WP Leader or WP Architect and each technical team has to > manage partner?s contribution. When the same partners are involved in > several WPs, it is very difficult to coordinate contributions and at the > end to reach a good quality for the deliverable. What should be clearly > stated is that if the skeleton of the deliverable is moving, the editor is > responsible to adapt previous contribution to the new framework and not to > ask 70 people to do the same work twice or three times.**** > > ** ** > > For both categories of deliverables, wiki format is for me not the right > format to have working document. To track changes or to p ut right me > especially when we change the skeleton. Furthermore, we have no clear rules > first for the private deliverables how they will be published on the wiki > (I?ve sent a previous email on this subject for exploitation deliverable > but did not receive any answer) and how the existing public information is > managed and by whom to introduce some changes.**** > > ** ** > > I think all these points are also of my responsibility as WP leader > because we spend too much time to write several times the same content in > different ways, we are late for all deliverables and we create lots of > noise around technical tasks and middleware we have to deliver. We will > have to explain all these points to the Commission in 2 months so we have > to identify solutions and be able to improve our project management to > avoid any crisis with the Commission.**** > > I?m opened for any suggestions but my first proposals are the following:** > ** > > **? **Organize WP2 meetings to define ToC and guidelines for > technical deliverables**** > > **? **Provide a GANTT for all further deliverables**** > > **? **Use mainly word document to be able to track easily all > changes and for private deliverables**** > > **? **Based on the ToC allow responsibilities to editor and main > contributors**** > > ** ** > > Best regards.****< /p> > > *Thierry Nagellen* **** > > *Program Manager Future Internet* > *Orange Labs Networks & Carriers* > 905 rue Albert Einstein > 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex > +33 492 94 52 84 > +33 679 85 08 44**** > > *New email address: *thierry.nagellen at orange.com **** > > ** ** > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wpl mailing list > Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl > > -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri May 4 11:16:04 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 11:16:04 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Concerns with deliverables process and content... and solutions to identify before review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA39E54.5030206@tid.es> Hi Thierry, Thanks for your comments. I would like to provide my personal view on some of the matters you have raised in your email but I won't be able until later today, probably this evening due to another commitments. Nevertheless, one thing I would like to clarify is that most of the activities described in the DoW for WP2 are the kind of activities we all of us are supposed to carry out through discussion on the fiware-wpl and fiware-wpa mailing lists as well as the joint WPLs/WPAs confcalls. So putting WP2 "at work" should translate into improving interaction and participation through the fiware-wpl and fiware-wpa mailing lists, as well as the joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcalls. It's not a matter of creating a dedicated WP2 working group or a fiware-wp2 mailing list but really improve response and involvement in the fiware-wpl/wpa mailing lists as well as the joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcalls. As an example, I have seen requests for contribution from the Testbed WP Leaders or the Exploitation WP Leaders sent on the list, multiple times, even reinforced with reminders through consecutive joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcalls, that have simply been ignored. If response and interaction had been better, most probably we would be on a better position regarding some deliverables. I'm happy to discuss about that and, of course, all constructive feedback is welcome. We can make this point a point of the agenda of our joint WPL/WPA follow-up confcall on Monday. Best regards, -- Juanjo On 04/05/12 10:27, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear all, I would raise here a main concern regarding how we are managing our deliverables. Basically and since the beginning of the project we are late for all deliverables and it will be a strong concern for our Project Officer and our reviewers in less than 2 months during the review. We can split our deliverables into 2 categories: technical deliverables where all technical chapters have to provide their own content, and classical deliverables directly related to a dedicated WP. For the technical deliverables, my feeling and the feedback from IoT team is that we never have the ToC on time, which is normally 2 months before to deliver the final version, and when we have the ToC, guidelines are always moving especially during the last 2 weeks because the technical chapters did not really apply the guidelines (or because we are not able to manage correctly the consistency between chapters). In the case of these technical deliverables, the rule we apply is that Telefonica is the Editor because Telefonica is the chief architect. My main question here is: what is the role of WP2 till the beginning of the project? Could we use this place to prepare and discuss the ToC together in this place and maintain it or just small changes to avoid writing something in a rush at the last minute? We could also define the GANTT with the expected deliverables and when the ToC should be ready. For the classical deliverables, there are not managed as a first priority till now and we have the same concern regarding the ToC definition and who is responsible of what. Very often the only names put in a deliverable are WP Leader or WP Architect and each technical team has to manage partner?s contribution. When the same partners are involved in several WPs, it is very difficult to coordinate contributions and at the end to reach a good quality for the deliverable. What should be clearly stated is that if the skeleton of the deliverable is moving, the editor is responsible to adapt previous contribution to the new framework and not to ask 70 people to do the same work twice or three times. For both categories of deliverables, wiki format is for me not the right format to have working document. To track changes or to put right formats take too much time especially when we change the skeleton. Furthermore, we have no clear rules first for the private deliverables how they will be published on the wiki (I?ve sent a previous email on this subject for exploitation deliverable but did not receive any answer) and how the existing public information is managed and by whom to introduce some changes. I think all these points are also of my responsibility as WP leader because we spend too much time to write several times the same content in different ways, we are late for all deliverables and we create lots of noise around technical tasks and middleware we have to deliver. We will have to explain all these points to the Commission in 2 months so we have to identify solutions and be able to improve our project management to avoid any crisis with the Commission. I?m opened for any suggestions but my first proposals are the following: ? Organize WP2 meetings to define ToC and guidelines for technical deliverables ? Provide a GANTT for all further deliverables ? Use mainly word document to be able to track easily all changes and for private deliverables ? Based on the ToC allow responsibilities to editor and main contributors Best regards. Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 7 10:00:35 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 10:00:35 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Suspected Spam] Joint WPL/WPA follow-up confcall shared minutes - WE WILL START AT 11:30am Message-ID: <4FA78123.80201@tid.es> Hi, Here you are the draft minutes that we will use in our joint WPL/WPA follow-up confcall: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11ht_yFSjvBTA3_HaRRpFQiQKw0R_WNKvmu7FHcPyEyo/edit I would kindly ask each of the WPLs to provide a status of your contribution to the different deliverables, in the corresponding slot of the agenda. We will start our confcall at 11:30am CET instead of 11:00am CET. This would allow you to write down the status of your contribution to the different deliverables in the corresponding slot. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FI-WARE: confirmation review meeting on June 21-22 Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 09:29:47 +0200 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA , JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Dear Jose, Juanjo, I hereby confirm that the M12 review meeting of FI-WARE will take place on June 21-22, in Brussels. Best regards, Arian. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Topic: FI-WARE Joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall Date: Monday, May 7, 2012 Time: 11:30 am, Europe Summer Time (Paris, GMT+02:00) Meeting Number: 960 561 982 Meeting Password: 1234abcD ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://telefonica.webex.com/telefonica-en/j.php?ED=193673782&UID=1284701832&PW=NZDA1NmExNTk0&RT=MiMyMw%3D%3D 2. Enter your name and email address. 3. Enter the meeting password: 1234abcD 4. Click "Join Now". To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://telefonica.webex.com/telefonica-en/j.php?ED=193673782&UID=1284701832&PW=NZDA1NmExNTk0&ORT=MiMyMw%3D%3D ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://telefonica.webex.com/telefonica-en/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Tue May 8 08:37:56 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 08:37:56 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FA8BF44.90401@tid.es> Hi all, Please find below an email I have received from the InstantMobility project regarding the bilateral session they requested (don't get confused if you see that our colleague Thierry is the sender, because he is also involved in InstantMobility :-). I have inserted my potential response between lines. Despite I disagree with some of the arguments made by the InstantMobility project, I believe it shouldn't be a problem to arrange the requested virtual meeting if we are able to ... I NEED the confirmation from representatives of the chapters referred in InstantMobility's email (I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Apps, Security) to confirm whether they (or someone else of their chapter) would be available on the proposed date/time for such a virtual meeting. Note that according to the agenda that InstantMobility suggested, this session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs they are planning to develop, so that they can collect our feedback. Therefore, it is not expected that we prepare any presentation for the session (although, of course, we have to be ready to answer doubts, questions). BESIDES, if you believe there is any issue with any of my proposed responses (between lines of their message) please let me know. Cheers, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:24:48 +0200 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com , jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers? session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. Response: the educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Response: Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Response: Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We'll do our best to have representatives of the mentioned chapters during that confcall. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Best, D?nes From: fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext Juanjo Hierro Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2012 8:38 AM To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Hi all, Please find below an email I have received from the InstantMobility project regarding the bilateral session they requested (don't get confused if you see that our colleague Thierry is the sender, because he is also involved in InstantMobility :-). I have inserted my potential response between lines. Despite I disagree with some of the arguments made by the InstantMobility project, I believe it shouldn't be a problem to arrange the requested virtual meeting if we are able to ... I NEED the confirmation from representatives of the chapters referred in InstantMobility's email (I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Apps, Security) to confirm whether they (or someone else of their chapter) would be available on the proposed date/time for such a virtual meeting. Note that according to the agenda that InstantMobility suggested, this session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs they are planning to develop, so that they can collect our feedback. Therefore, it is not expected that we prepare any presentation for the session (although, of course, we have to be ready to answer doubts, questions). BESIDES, if you believe there is any issue with any of my proposed responses (between lines of their message) please let me know. Cheers, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:24:48 +0200 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com , jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers' session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. Response: the educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Response: Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Response: Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We'll do our best to have representatives of the mentioned chapters during that confcall. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: marted? 8 maggio 2012 08:38 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Hi all, Please find below an email I have received from the InstantMobility project regarding the bilateral session they requested (don't get confused if you see that our colleague Thierry is the sender, because he is also involved in InstantMobility :-). I have inserted my potential response between lines. Despite I disagree with some of the arguments made by the InstantMobility project, I believe it shouldn't be a problem to arrange the requested virtual meeting if we are able to ... I NEED the confirmation from representatives of the chapters referred in InstantMobility's email (I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Apps, Security) to confirm whether they (or someone else of their chapter) would be available on the proposed date/time for such a virtual meeting. Note that according to the agenda that InstantMobility suggested, this session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs they are planning to develop, so that they can collect our feedback. Therefore, it is not expected that we prepare any presentation for the session (although, of course, we have to be ready to answer doubts, questions). BESIDES, if you believe there is any issue with any of my proposed responses (between lines of their message) please let me know. Cheers, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:24:48 +0200 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com , jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers' session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. Response: the educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Response: Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Response: Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We'll do our best to have representatives of the mentioned chapters during that confcall. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ El 08/05/2012, a las 09:03, Garino Pierangelo escribi?: Hi Juanjo, I will attend the virtual meeting (I2ND chapter). BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: marted? 8 maggio 2012 08:38 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Hi all, Please find below an email I have received from the InstantMobility project regarding the bilateral session they requested (don't get confused if you see that our colleague Thierry is the sender, because he is also involved in InstantMobility :-). I have inserted my potential response between lines. Despite I disagree with some of the arguments made by the InstantMobility project, I believe it shouldn't be a problem to arrange the requested virtual meeting if we are able to ... I NEED the confirmation from representatives of the chapters referred in InstantMobility's email (I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Apps, Security) to confirm whether they (or someone else of their chapter) would be available on the proposed date/time for such a virtual meeting. Note that according to the agenda that InstantMobility suggested, this session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs they are planning to develop, so that they can collect our feedback. Therefore, it is not expected that we prepare any presentation for the session (although, of course, we have to be ready to answer doubts, questions). BESIDES, if you believe there is any issue with any of my proposed responses (between lines of their message) please let me know. Cheers, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:24:48 +0200 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com , jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers? session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. Response: the educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Response: Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Response: Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We'll do our best to have representatives of the mentioned chapters during that confcall. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ralli at tid.es Tue May 8 09:45:48 2012 From: ralli at tid.es (CARLOS RALLI UCENDO) Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 09:45:48 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Important: UCs ask for FI-WARE WPl/WPa reaction (clarify GEs to be presented at each slot) References: <0CF527EE434D2E4BB398B0F67FB0A8983216C12D55@xchg.mertree.mer.co.il> Message-ID: <88A7BDD8-FF90-4F35-911A-1A0D5DD65922@tid.es> Dear Colleagues, I have sent several reminders, but still didn't get it done. Here I go again ... The UCs need to know which GEs will be presented at each slot, otherwise they cannot clarify exactly which sessions they are attending ... Concretely, I2ND, APPS, SEC and IoT have NOT provided this information so far. Please, DO access to the link below and proceed the same way it is already done for CLOUD and DATA. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=0 Additionally, if you would like to free some slot or part of them, let me know it ASAP, so we could reduce the number of parallel sessions in case a conflict might be solved that way. Thanks for your cooperation. Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inicio del mensaje reenviado: De: Peretz Gurel > Fecha: 7 de mayo de 2012 19:50:28 GMT+02:00 Para: CARLOS RALLI UCENDO > Cc: "fiware-training at lists.fi-ware.eu" > Asunto: RE: [Fiware-training] Attendees registration for the 'FI-PPP SW Architects Week' Dear Carlos, I think that people may find it difficult to provide exact information which sessions they plan to attend because the agenda is still at very high level. Speaking for myself, I have a list of GEs that I would like to attend. They are from all chapters. There is not a single chapter that I would like to attend from the beginning to the end. So, once the agenda will show which GE will be presented at which slot I shall be able to tell you very accurately which sessions I shall attend. Best regards, Peretz Gurel European Projects Manager Athena security implementations Ltd Office: +972-3-5572548 Mobile: +972-54-4734045 Email: peretz at athenaiss.com www.athenaiss.com -----Original Message----- From: fiware-training-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-training-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of CARLOS RALLI UCENDO Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:40 PM To: fiware-training at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-training] Attendees registration for the 'FI-PPP SW Architects Week' Dear All, Please do register yourself and your colleagues attending either the 1st week (May 21st-24th) at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=2 and/or the second week (June 4th-7th) at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=3 Please, do not forget to clarify which sessions you are planning to attend to. I would like also to request to anyone attending 'Tools' or 'Cloud' sessions to explicitly clarify it (even when you registered yourself time ago, please access again and do it) as long as we do not see as many attendees as communicated in the first UCs feedback (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdC1zSUdlVjJ2WldESHZmZU13bTdjT3c#gid=0) Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From GLIKSON at il.ibm.com Tue May 8 12:25:19 2012 From: GLIKSON at il.ibm.com (Alex Glikson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 13:25:19 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting In-Reply-To: <4FA8BF44.90401@tid.es> References: <4FA8BF44.90401@tid.es> Message-ID: I am on a business trip, but others from the Cloud chapter will cover. Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Date: 08/05/2012 09:38 AM Subject: [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Hi all, Please find below an email I have received from the InstantMobility project regarding the bilateral session they requested (don't get confused if you see that our colleague Thierry is the sender, because he is also involved in InstantMobility :-). I have inserted my potential response between lines. Despite I disagree with some of the arguments made by the InstantMobility project, I believe it shouldn't be a problem to arrange the requested virtual meeting if we are able to ... I NEED the confirmation from representatives of the chapters referred in InstantMobility's email (I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Apps, Security) to confirm whether they (or someone else of their chapter) would be available on the proposed date/time for such a virtual meeting. Note that according to the agenda that InstantMobility suggested, this session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs they are planning to develop, so that they can collect our feedback. Therefore, it is not expected that we prepare any presentation for the session (although, of course, we have to be ready to answer doubts, questions). BESIDES, if you believe there is any issue with any of my proposed responses (between lines of their message) please let me know. Cheers, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:24:48 +0200 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com , jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers? session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. Response: the educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Response: Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Response: Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We'll do our best to have representatives of the mentioned chapters during that confcall. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx _______________________________________________ Fiware-wpl mailing list Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Tue May 8 14:37:22 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 14:37:22 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] R: [Fiware-wpl] Important: UCs ask for FI-WARE WPl/WPa reaction (clarify GEs to be presented at each slot) In-Reply-To: <88A7BDD8-FF90-4F35-911A-1A0D5DD65922@tid.es> References: <0CF527EE434D2E4BB398B0F67FB0A8983216C12D55@xchg.mertree.mer.co.il> <88A7BDD8-FF90-4F35-911A-1A0D5DD65922@tid.es> Message-ID: Hi Carlos, I'm waiting the approval by the GE owners of I2ND chapter, due by today afternoon, then I'll insert the slot allocation I have proposed. BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di CARLOS RALLI UCENDO Inviato: marted? 8 maggio 2012 09:46 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-wpl] Important: UCs ask for FI-WARE WPl/WPa reaction (clarify GEs to be presented at each slot) Dear Colleagues, I have sent several reminders, but still didn't get it done. Here I go again ... The UCs need to know which GEs will be presented at each slot, otherwise they cannot clarify exactly which sessions they are attending ... Concretely, I2ND, APPS, SEC and IoT have NOT provided this information so far. Please, DO access to the link below and proceed the same way it is already done for CLOUD and DATA. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=0 Additionally, if you would like to free some slot or part of them, let me know it ASAP, so we could reduce the number of parallel sessions in case a conflict might be solved that way. Thanks for your cooperation. Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inicio del mensaje reenviado: De: Peretz Gurel > Fecha: 7 de mayo de 2012 19:50:28 GMT+02:00 Para: CARLOS RALLI UCENDO > Cc: "fiware-training at lists.fi-ware.eu" > Asunto: RE: [Fiware-training] Attendees registration for the 'FI-PPP SW Architects Week' Dear Carlos, I think that people may find it difficult to provide exact information which sessions they plan to attend because the agenda is still at very high level. Speaking for myself, I have a list of GEs that I would like to attend. They are from all chapters. There is not a single chapter that I would like to attend from the beginning to the end. So, once the agenda will show which GE will be presented at which slot I shall be able to tell you very accurately which sessions I shall attend. Best regards, Peretz Gurel European Projects Manager Athena security implementations Ltd Office: +972-3-5572548 Mobile: +972-54-4734045 Email: peretz at athenaiss.com www.athenaiss.com -----Original Message----- From: fiware-training-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-training-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of CARLOS RALLI UCENDO Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:40 PM To: fiware-training at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-training] Attendees registration for the 'FI-PPP SW Architects Week' Dear All, Please do register yourself and your colleagues attending either the 1st week (May 21st-24th) at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=2 and/or the second week (June 4th-7th) at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=3 Please, do not forget to clarify which sessions you are planning to attend to. I would like also to request to anyone attending 'Tools' or 'Cloud' sessions to explicitly clarify it (even when you registered yourself time ago, please access again and do it) as long as we do not see as many attendees as communicated in the first UCs feedback (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdC1zSUdlVjJ2WldESHZmZU13bTdjT3c#gid=0) Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Hierro" Dear Thierry, On 07/05/12 11:24, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers? session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. The educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. So far, representatives of the I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud and Applications/Services Ecosystem and Delivery chapters have confirmed their attendance. I haven't yet gathered a response from the Security Chapter, but I hope someone will be able to attend. Please let us know what confcall+webex kind of bridge you plan to setup. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. 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You should have this information in the afternoon. BR Thierry De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de CARLOS RALLI UCENDO Envoy? : mardi 8 mai 2012 09:46 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-wpl] Important: UCs ask for FI-WARE WPl/WPa reaction (clarify GEs to be presented at each slot) Dear Colleagues, I have sent several reminders, but still didn't get it done. Here I go again ... The UCs need to know which GEs will be presented at each slot, otherwise they cannot clarify exactly which sessions they are attending ... Concretely, I2ND, APPS, SEC and IoT have NOT provided this information so far. Please, DO access to the link below and proceed the same way it is already done for CLOUD and DATA. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=0 Additionally, if you would like to free some slot or part of them, let me know it ASAP, so we could reduce the number of parallel sessions in case a conflict might be solved that way. Thanks for your cooperation. Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inicio del mensaje reenviado: De: Peretz Gurel Fecha: 7 de mayo de 2012 19:50:28 GMT+02:00 Para: CARLOS RALLI UCENDO Cc: "fiware-training at lists.fi-ware.eu" Asunto: RE: [Fiware-training] Attendees registration for the 'FI-PPP SW Architects Week' Dear Carlos, I think that people may find it difficult to provide exact information which sessions they plan to attend because the agenda is still at very high level. Speaking for myself, I have a list of GEs that I would like to attend. They are from all chapters. There is not a single chapter that I would like to attend from the beginning to the end. So, once the agenda will show which GE will be presented at which slot I shall be able to tell you very accurately which sessions I shall attend. Best regards, Peretz Gurel European Projects Manager Athena security implementations Ltd Office: +972-3-5572548 Mobile: +972-54-4734045 Email: peretz at athenaiss.com www.athenaiss.com -----Original Message----- From: fiware-training-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-training-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of CARLOS RALLI UCENDO Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 7:40 PM To: fiware-training at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-training] Attendees registration for the 'FI-PPP SW Architects Week' Dear All, Please do register yourself and your colleagues attending either the 1st week (May 21st-24th) at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=2 and/or the second week (June 4th-7th) at: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArcymbqnpOfkdGJqeEFlblNEUkdxdkl2NW1sM0FWUUE#gid=3 Please, do not forget to clarify which sessions you are planning to attend to. I would like also to request to anyone attending 'Tools' or 'Cloud' sessions to explicitly clarify it (even when you registered yourself time ago, please access again and do it) as long as we do not see as many attendees as communicated in the first UCs feedback (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGGeaQGro3fdC1zSUdlVjJ2WldESHZmZU13bTdjT3c#gid=0 ) Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es ) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com Wed May 9 10:39:22 2012 From: pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com (BISSON Pascal) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:39:22 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting In-Reply-To: <4FA8BF44.90401@tid.es> References: <4FA8BF44.90401@tid.es> Message-ID: <2453_1336552758_4FAA2D36_2453_4240_1_17dda4a1-39be-483b-b1ae-bbb8bb0ea2ff@THSONEA01HUB01P.one.grp> >From my side I couldn't make it but If Daniel can make it I can replace me effectively at this Virtual Meeting @Daniel please answer from your side. BR Pascal De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : mardi 8 mai 2012 08:38 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Hi all, Please find below an email I have received from the InstantMobility project regarding the bilateral session they requested (don't get confused if you see that our colleague Thierry is the sender, because he is also involved in InstantMobility :-). I have inserted my potential response between lines. Despite I disagree with some of the arguments made by the InstantMobility project, I believe it shouldn't be a problem to arrange the requested virtual meeting if we are able to ... I NEED the confirmation from representatives of the chapters referred in InstantMobility's email (I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Apps, Security) to confirm whether they (or someone else of their chapter) would be available on the proposed date/time for such a virtual meeting. Note that according to the agenda that InstantMobility suggested, this session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs they are planning to develop, so that they can collect our feedback. Therefore, it is not expected that we prepare any presentation for the session (although, of course, we have to be ready to answer doubts, questions). BESIDES, if you believe there is any issue with any of my proposed responses (between lines of their message) please let me know. Cheers, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:24:48 +0200 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com , jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers' session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. Response: the educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Response: Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Response: Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We'll do our best to have representatives of the mentioned chapters during that confcall. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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The exact venue location and suggested hotels are available at: http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?client=tmpg&hl=en&langpair=es%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.etsit.upm.es/la-escuela/como-llegar.html&usg=ALkJrhiGwDrORuqzUH_3NmMTmggpluGHoA Soon I will be adding more logistic info, but the link above should be fine to close your trips arrangements. 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Thanks & Br, Lorant From: fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext Miguel Carrillo Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 6:41 PM To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpa] TOC for 2 sections of the Installation and Admin Guide Dear all, As agreed on the WPL/WPA confcall, the installation and admin manual does not have a fixed TOC and it will be decided internally in each WP. However, there are two sections that will appear in each installation and admin manual from each chapter. These sections will have the same TOC always. I refer to the sanity check procedures and the diagnosis procedures. The TOCs for these sections can be found on the private Wiki: * Private wiki -> FI-WARE Project Deliverables Placeholders for common edition -> FI-WARE Deliverable "D2.3-8.3 FIWARE Installation and Administration Guide" Please disseminate this within your Work Packages. 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Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From ralli at tid.es Thu May 10 15:57:00 2012 From: ralli at tid.es (CARLOS RALLI UCENDO) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 15:57:00 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] WP12 Deliverables Action Plan (Please read carefully, as trips expenses claim might be rejected afterwards) Message-ID: <291F099B-9A54-4CD9-B1E8-0962EA113A91@tid.es> Dear WPl, As per month 12, Fi-WARE 'Collaboration & Dissemination' chapter committed to deliver the following two deliverables: - D12.2b Report on Communication and Dissemination activities (M12). - D12.3.b Report on Collaboration activities (M12). Fortunately, we thought and provided in advance a permanent structure in the wiki, so those contents were to be continuously updated as they happened. The overall chapter (public) placeholder is at: http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Communication,_Collaboration_and_Dissemination --> Sections and expected contributions: 1) The first section 'Web Site, social channels and promotional material' has been regularly updated by my colleague Miguel Carrillo, so I will be just adding some statistics related to WEB accesses, twitter followers/retweets, etc. Unless you have specific feedback/suggestions we are not expecting any contrib here. 2) 'Communication Activities' is placeholder structured to describe Press releases, Interviews, Newsletters, Infodays and support to other projects/initiatives. ALL PARTNERS who have performed any of these activities so far are expected to fill in this Wiki-doc with a specific subsection following others as example (time-ordered list). 3) Collaboration Activities: In this section ATOS & TID team will perform updates to improve the descriptions of cooperation with UCs in the architecture weeks, cooperation in the context of AB, cooperation through instruments such as Infinity and Concord and other joint efforts with FI initiatives and ICT instruments. I will be sending today an specific e-mail to ATOS team for these contributions. 4) Disseminations activities: This is the place for Scientific papers and pannels, articles, book chapters, events, training materials, tutorials ... Definitely we expect this section to grow with updates from MOST PARTNERS in the coming days before the deadline. Please create subsections in a time-ordered manner following existing ones as template. We are quite surprised and concerned mainly with the low number of entries in section 4, that the EC may point out as a weak relation/influence of partners with the scientific/R&D community. Also WPl and architects are expected to have had a bit more contribution to what regards to section 2. We are sure there have been many national/international presentations where you have disseminated/explained the idea and expected goals of FI-WARE. Please, take into account that trips claimed as FI-WARE expenses will not be accepted in the absence of the correspondent entry (specifically, in the PDF snapshot that we will send to the EC after the deadline below), unless there is a clear and convincing clarification. Let us fix Friday next week (May 18th) EoB as the absolute deadline to close both documents by taking a snapshot of the corresponding sections in the Wiki. Thanks for your cooperation and, please, do forward this e-mail to all members in your teams. 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Still there are concerns that potential assignments of access rights might leak out information. The following options were discussed how these deliverables could be shared with reviewers: -conversion to pdf - in this case there are no concerns -reviewer will get dedicated account to access the exploitation wiki: there could be concerns because this wiki might contain other private information that only partners need to see, not the reviewers -create another private project with its own wiki that would be private for the members of that projects and allow reviewers to be members of that project, use that to publish consolidated D11.x deliverables Feedback is welcome on the mailing list, or if you agree we could briefly touch this during the next WPA/WPL meeting. Thanks & Br, Lorant -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu Fri May 11 09:40:54 2012 From: juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 09:40:54 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] concerns on the privacy of the D11.x deliverables Message-ID: Dear Lorant I confirm you that these are private and that we will apply the first option you propose, final conversion to pdf Br Juan From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest) Sent: viernes, 11 de mayo de 2012 9:33 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] concerns on the privacy of the D11.x deliverables Dear All, Some partners raised concerns on the privacy of D11.x deliverables. Juan Bareno from ATOS confirmed that these are private. Still there are concerns that potential assignments of access rights might leak out information. The following options were discussed how these deliverables could be shared with reviewers: -conversion to pdf - in this case there are no concerns -reviewer will get dedicated account to access the exploitation wiki: there could be concerns because this wiki might contain other private information that only partners need to see, not the reviewers -create another private project with its own wiki that would be private for the members of that projects and allow reviewers to be members of that project, use that to publish consolidated D11.x deliverables Feedback is welcome on the mailing list, or if you agree we could briefly touch this during the next WPA/WPL meeting. Thanks & Br, Lorant ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. 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Still there are concerns that potential assignments of access rights might leak out information. The following options were discussed how these deliverables could be shared with reviewers: -conversion to pdf ? in this case there are no concerns Some deliverables are Public, if we do not succeed in changing this, you may produce two versions. A full version and another one curtailed to hide what you do not want to show. Public deliverables go to the wiki always D.11.1.a, b, c Market Competition Analysis. PU D.11.2.a, b, c Exploitation Plan, including IPR Management. PP D.11.3.a, b, c Market and Policy Regulation Awareness Report. PU I would suggest to ask Juanjo in the next confcall if we can relax the general rule of using the wiki in this particular case. -reviewer will get dedicated account to access the exploitation wiki: there could be concerns because this wiki might contain other private information that only partners need to see, not the reviewers I do not know if this will happen, it is a possibility (and not only for the wiki). -create another private project with its own wiki that would be private for the members of that projects and allow reviewers to be members of that project, use that to publish consolidated D11.x deliverables No, please, no more repositories!! Feedback is welcome on the mailing list, or if you agree we could briefly touch this during the next WPA/WPL meeting. We have a private wiki that is accessible to everyone. This will remain quite restrictive in access, the intention of the private project in general is to have anything that we want to keep away from the eyes of anyone not in the consortium . It is not specific from any WP but I do not see any problem in editing a doc here, as other WPs have done. Why don't you use it? * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/projects/fi-ware-private/ I remind you that the WPL are the ones who grant access to this wiki (this means that WPL are to approve the subscription requests from the members of their respective WPs) Thanks & Br, Lorant Hope this throws some light ... Miguel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _/ _/_/ Miguel Carrillo Pacheco _/ _/ _/ _/ Telef?nica Distrito Telef?nica _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Investigaci?n y Edifico Oeste 1, Planta 9 _/ _/ _/ _/ Desarrollo Ronda de la Comunicaci?n S/N _/ _/_/ 28050 Madrid (Spain) Tel: (+34) 91 483 26 77 e-mail: mcp at tid.es Follow FI-WARE on the net Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: http://twitter.com/Fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcp at tid.es Fri May 11 11:22:25 2012 From: mcp at tid.es (Miguel Carrillo) Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 11:22:25 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] concerns on the privacy of the D11.x deliverables In-Reply-To: <4FACD045.7090309@tid.es> References: <93D28BDF64839C468B848D14227151A2037676C9@FIESEXC014.nsn-intra.net> <4FACD045.7090309@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FACDA51.3090301@tid.es> Dear all, I have had a brief interaction with Juan Bare?o who has informed me of the agreements he reached with Juanjo Hierro. * D11.1 and D11.3 are worked on in word format. It will be "wikified" if Arian (the PO) does not allow us to change them to private Recapitulating a bit ... I assume that in this situation: * If they finally need to go public, before adding them to the wiki they will have to be curtailed in those places where they show info that is too sensitive * Please avoid creating new repositories. If you need at some point a private space, use the private wiki (in the project FI-WARE private). New subscribers to this wiki must be approved by WPLs * Anyone can check if there is sensitive info leaked due to a mistake handling docman. You simply log out the forge and see what's public for an anonymous user. If the one who uploads the doc is careful - private info should remain safe. Best regards, Miguel El 11/05/2012 10:39, Miguel Carrillo escribi?: Hi Inline,,, El 11/05/2012 9:33, Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest) escribi?: Dear All, Some partners raised concerns on the privacy of D11.x deliverables. Juan Bareno from ATOS confirmed that these are private. Still there are concerns that potential assignments of access rights might leak out information. The following options were discussed how these deliverables could be shared with reviewers: -conversion to pdf ? in this case there are no concerns Some deliverables are Public, if we do not succeed in changing this, you may produce two versions. A full version and another one curtailed to hide what you do not want to show. Public deliverables go to the wiki always D.11.1.a, b, c Market Competition Analysis. PU D.11.2.a, b, c Exploitation Plan, including IPR Management. PP D.11.3.a, b, c Market and Policy Regulation Awareness Report. PU I would suggest to ask Juanjo in the next confcall if we can relax the general rule of using the wiki in this particular case. -reviewer will get dedicated account to access the exploitation wiki: there could be concerns because this wiki might contain other private information that only partners need to see, not the reviewers I do not know if this will happen, it is a possibility (and not only for the wiki). -create another private project with its own wiki that would be private for the members of that projects and allow reviewers to be members of that project, use that to publish consolidated D11.x deliverables No, please, no more repositories!! Feedback is welcome on the mailing list, or if you agree we could briefly touch this during the next WPA/WPL meeting. We have a private wiki that is accessible to everyone. This will remain quite restrictive in access, the intention of the private project in general is to have anything that we want to keep away from the eyes of anyone not in the consortium . It is not specific from any WP but I do not see any problem in editing a doc here, as other WPs have done. Why don't you use it? * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/projects/fi-ware-private/ I remind you that the WPL are the ones who grant access to this wiki (this means that WPL are to approve the subscription requests from the members of their respective WPs) Thanks & Br, Lorant Hope this throws some light ... Miguel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _/ _/_/ Miguel Carrillo Pacheco _/ _/ _/ _/ Telef?nica Distrito Telef?nica _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Investigaci?n y Edifico Oeste 1, Planta 9 _/ _/ _/ _/ Desarrollo Ronda de la Comunicaci?n S/N _/ _/_/ 28050 Madrid (Spain) Tel: (+34) 91 483 26 77 e-mail: mcp at tid.es Follow FI-WARE on the net Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: http://twitter.com/Fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _/ _/_/ Miguel Carrillo Pacheco _/ _/ _/ _/ Telef?nica Distrito Telef?nica _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Investigaci?n y Edifico Oeste 1, Planta 9 _/ _/ _/ _/ Desarrollo Ronda de la Comunicaci?n S/N _/ _/_/ 28050 Madrid (Spain) Tel: (+34) 91 483 26 77 e-mail: mcp at tid.es Follow FI-WARE on the net Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: http://twitter.com/Fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Thanks for your cooperation. Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 14 06:15:45 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 06:15:45 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Fwd: FI-WARE: 2nd review report (month 9) In-Reply-To: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D0267CC@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> References: <69AD1A9684E7184DADBE43806285BA9D0267CC@S-DC-ESTF03-B.net1.cec.eu.int> Message-ID: <4FB086F1.4080901@tid.es> Hi all, The EC has sent a review report on the activities carried out, as well as the deliverables due, before end of month 9. I have to confess that this has been a nice surprise (among other things, because it will help us to better focus our 1st year review by June 21-22) I haven't had time to read it completely, just a quick reading of the overall assessment. D2.3a, D2.4a, and D11.4a have been rejected and have to be re-submitted once detailed comments provided by the reviewers are addressed. The rest of deliverables are accepted though D.2.1.1 and D.1.3.1 with some reservations. The reviewers applaud the quality of the testbed design as documented in deliverable D10.1a. Regarding D2.3a and D2.4a, the following is said in the overall assessment: While much of the material produced for the key deliverable D2.3a is of good to very good quality, the level of quality is not consistent, with several major issues affecting deliverables D2.3a and D2.4a to the degree that remedial attention is required before they can be accepted. while regarding D11.4, the following is said in the overall assessment (probably we need to read the detailed comments to understand it better): deliverable D11.4a is also rejected due to a lack of clarity on how standardisation contributions will be properly aligned with one another Overall, the project is scored in the lower scale of acceptable progress so, definitively, we all have to devote the necessary resources to improve that score. I believe it is feasible if we carefully review the recommendations made in the review and implement the necessary remedy actions. Fortunately, some actions that have been already planned (e.g., educational sessions with the UC projects, dedicated team covering management of UC tickets, ...) are in this direction, but we will have to add some more. Please distribute among the members of your Chapter teams. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FI-WARE: 2nd review report (month 9) Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:47:06 +0200 From: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: Annalisa.Bogliolo at ec.europa.eu , Federica.TAGLIANI at ec.europa.eu , bel.piet1 at gmail.com , renaud.difrancesco at eu.sony.com , rdifrancesco at ymail.com , dgr at whitestein.com , msli at icfocus.co.uk , irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com Dear Jose, Juanjo, Please find enclosed the outcome of the second FI-WARE review. 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Name: Cover FI-WARE review 2 report.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 33689 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 14 08:37:17 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:37:17 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Publication of specifications that are not APIs Message-ID: <4FB0A81D.2040604@tid.es> Hi all, During our last joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall, a question was raised regarding how to treat specifications that are not API specifications. Examples of this are the USDL-sec specification produced by the Security chapter or the Context Modelling Language (CML) to be supported by the high-level convenience API to be offered by the Pub/Sub Broker GE (complementary to the FI-WARE NGSI API). Although I answered the question during the confcall, I summarize here the approach we propose to adopt. The idea is pretty simple: these specifications are going to be treated the same way as API specifications. I remind you that the approach that was decided implied that a new "Open Specifications" section will be added to the wiki page linked to each GE within the FI-WARE Architecture section of the public wiki (which will be retitled as FI-WARE Architecture and Specifications. That section within a given GE description will include a list of ALL the relevant specifications (implemented as a list of items, each pointing to the wiki page associated to one specification). We will structure this section in two subsections "REST API specifications" and "Other specifications" so that each specification will be placed in one of them. The wiki page associated to a given specification will be referenced from two places. First, from the section titled "Open Specifications" linked to a given GE as explained above (note that several GEs may establish a link to the same specification, as it happens with the NGSI specifications). Second, from a wiki page we will titled "Summary of FI-WARE specifications" whose URL link will be referred from both the main page of the FI-WARE Architecture wiki page as well as the home page of the FI-WARE public wiki. This "Summary of FI-WARE specifications" will be work as an index of all FI-WARE specifications and will also help us to generate a separate .pdf for just the Open Specifications. It will be further be structured in two main sections "REST API specifications" and "Other specifications". The "REST API specifications" subsection will comprise a list of sections common to all REST API specifications (as per agreements reached after discussion on comments received by the Security chapter team) plus a list of all the API specifications. Regarding development of contents in the private wiki, you just need to produce a wiki page devoted to the specification you wish to publish and include it in the placeholder for your chapter, the same way you have done with any API specification. Detailed instructions on how to port these pages to the public wiki will be given before tomorrow noon. however, what I have described above anticipates the plan. More detailed info will be provided in the detailed instructions that will be provided regarding how Open Specification contents will be ported from the private to the public wiki. These detailed instructions will be available on the private wiki by tomorrow noon. Of course, any feedback/comments are welcome. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 14 08:44:54 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:44:54 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Peer review of FI-WARE Open Specifications Message-ID: <4FB0A9E6.5040508@tid.es> Hi all, Now that we are about to produce a first stable take of the FI-WARE Open Specifications linked to the first FI-WARE Release, it would be worth setting up some sort of peer-review process. There were not so many people available for that peer-review until now but I guess some of them may be available soon and therefore could carry such peer review. As peer agreement from the previous confcall, I launch this thread of discussion so that everyone can comment and discuss what approach to take. Comments are expected during this week so that a schema for this peer review can be proposed during our next joint follow-up confcall (which has to be re-planned, either to this Friday or to Monday evening) Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 14 08:55:52 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:55:52 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] How to address specifications that are stable enough to be shared with public but still not committed for the first release Message-ID: <4FB0AC78.7040507@tid.es> Hi all, Despite this will be documented in the detailed instructions that will be produced regarding how-to port Open Specifications on the private wiki to the public wiki, our proposal about how to handle this issue is that the title of (and any reference to) the wiki page associated to a specification that is stable enough to be shared but not committed for the first release, be suffixed with the text "(draft FI-WARE specification)". Of course, any feedback or alternative propose is welcome. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 14 09:08:19 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 09:08:19 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Topics for second FI-WARE Open Call Message-ID: <4FB0AF63.4040102@tid.es> Hi all, I would like to launch this thread of discussion to identify topics that you believe have to be included in the 2nd FI-WARE Open Call. Please bear in mind that we will have to justify them very well in the context of FI-PPP AB discussions. Note that Open Calls are expected "to allow for responding to emerging user needs not identified or known from the outset" according to the text of the FP7 work programme linked to the FI-PPP. Of course, "user needs != UC project needs" necessary in all cases. Besides a title for the topic, I would appreciate that you send a brief justification for each of the proposed topics in terms of what is actually expected. I would like to have a preliminary but complete list by end of this week that I can share with rest of members of the FI-PPP AB. Please react accordingly. Next FI-PPP AB meeting will take place on May 29-30 in Helsinki. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Topic: FI-WARE Joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcall Date: Monday, May 14, 2012 Time: 11:00 am, Europe Summer Time (Paris, GMT+02:00) Meeting Number: 962 335 140 Meeting Password: 1234abcD ------------------------------------------------------- To join the online meeting (Now from iPhones too!) ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://telefonica.webex.com/telefonica-en/j.php?ED=193774937&UID=1285101977&PW=NOGNkMmI4ZTJh&RT=MiMyMw%3D%3D 2. Enter your name and email address. 3. Enter the meeting password: 1234abcD 4. Click "Join Now". To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link: https://telefonica.webex.com/telefonica-en/j.php?ED=193774937&UID=1285101977&PW=NOGNkMmI4ZTJh&ORT=MiMyMw%3D%3D ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://telefonica.webex.com/telefonica-en/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". 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URL: From pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com Mon May 14 14:16:42 2012 From: pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com (BISSON Pascal) Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 14:16:42 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Draft shared minutes for today's joint WPL/WPA follow-up confcall In-Reply-To: <4FB0B041.6010000@tid.es> References: <4FB0B041.6010000@tid.es> Message-ID: <10350_1336997803_4FB0F7AB_10350_5012_1_CBBCD6C304123F4AB23FAAE3055C8C0E020646C54245@THSONEA01CMS04P.one.grp> Dear Juanjo, Thanks for the minutes and apologize not to have joined this time due to another meeting I had to attend. BR Pascal De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoy? : lundi 14 mai 2012 09:12 ? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-wpl] Draft shared minutes for today's joint WPL/WPA follow-up confcall Hi all, The current draft of the minutes for today's confcall is available at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16xFA86vvxI-8Mk6mmit53RNrDs6_LhTIxvTWKdWTASU/edit I would appreciate if you can review them and add whatever update on status you can provide, overall with respect to the deliverable on Open Specifications, and the rest of deliverables due in month 12. This will allow us to have a more productive/effective meeting. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Tue May 15 05:57:28 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 05:57:28 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting In-Reply-To: <4FA95F26.8010303@tid.es> References: <4FA95F26.8010303@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FB1D428.6020001@tid.es> Hi, This is a reminder of the virtual meeting we will celebrate tomorrow, from 10:00am until 13:00pm. Bridge details will be forwarded by Lorant Farkas (NSN) soon. Thanks Lorant for offering NSN's help in setting up the logistics. We understand that the agenda will mostly cover the first to items of the agenda you initially proposed (attached), of course shrinking it to fit the allocated time (3 hours). I would advise leaving the last 20 mins to wrap-up. During this wrap-up we may gather a short timeslot to get a quick first feedback from FI-WARE chapter representatives regarding FI-WARE GEs not identified by Instant Mobility which they feel could be useful. This may give InstantMobility a clue about sessions that would be interesting to attend during the educational session weeks, besides those you may be planning already. See you tomorrow. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 08/05/12 20:00, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Thierry, On 07/05/12 11:24, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers? session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. The educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. So far, representatives of the I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud and Applications/Services Ecosystem and Delivery chapters have confirmed their attendance. I haven't yet gathered a response from the Security Chapter, but I hope someone will be able to attend. Please let us know what confcall+webex kind of bridge you plan to setup. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Thanks & Br, Lorant From: ext Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:57 AM To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com; jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest); jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Hi, This is a reminder of the virtual meeting we will celebrate tomorrow, from 10:00am until 13:00pm. Bridge details will be forwarded by Lorant Farkas (NSN) soon. Thanks Lorant for offering NSN's help in setting up the logistics. We understand that the agenda will mostly cover the first to items of the agenda you initially proposed (attached), of course shrinking it to fit the allocated time (3 hours). I would advise leaving the last 20 mins to wrap-up. During this wrap-up we may gather a short timeslot to get a quick first feedback from FI-WARE chapter representatives regarding FI-WARE GEs not identified by Instant Mobility which they feel could be useful. This may give InstantMobility a clue about sessions that would be interesting to attend during the educational session weeks, besides those you may be planning already. See you tomorrow. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 08/05/12 20:00, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Thierry, On 07/05/12 11:24, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers' session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. The educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. So far, representatives of the I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud and Applications/Services Ecosystem and Delivery chapters have confirmed their attendance. I haven't yet gathered a response from the Security Chapter, but I hope someone will be able to attend. Please let us know what confcall+webex kind of bridge you plan to setup. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorant.farkas at nsn.com Tue May 15 08:23:27 2012 From: lorant.farkas at nsn.com (Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest)) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:23:27 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting References: <4FA95F26.8010303@tid.es> <4FB1D428.6020001@tid.es> Message-ID: <93D28BDF64839C468B848D14227151A2037ABB83@FIESEXC014.nsn-intra.net> Dear All, Misunderstanding, sorry. For some reason we thought this would be on Friday, but in the e-mail by Thierry it is clearly stated Wednesday. So telco/webex details will come soon. Apologies for the confusion. Thanks & Br, Lorant From: Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest) Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:32 AM To: 'ext Juanjo Hierro'; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com; jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Dear All, Short remark: meeting is supposed to be on Friday, according to my knowledge. Or is there some change we don't know about? Thanks & Br, Lorant From: ext Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:57 AM To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com; jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest); jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Subject: Re: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Hi, This is a reminder of the virtual meeting we will celebrate tomorrow, from 10:00am until 13:00pm. Bridge details will be forwarded by Lorant Farkas (NSN) soon. Thanks Lorant for offering NSN's help in setting up the logistics. We understand that the agenda will mostly cover the first to items of the agenda you initially proposed (attached), of course shrinking it to fit the allocated time (3 hours). I would advise leaving the last 20 mins to wrap-up. During this wrap-up we may gather a short timeslot to get a quick first feedback from FI-WARE chapter representatives regarding FI-WARE GEs not identified by Instant Mobility which they feel could be useful. This may give InstantMobility a clue about sessions that would be interesting to attend during the educational session weeks, besides those you may be planning already. See you tomorrow. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 08/05/12 20:00, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Thierry, On 07/05/12 11:24, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers' session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. The educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. So far, representatives of the I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud and Applications/Services Ecosystem and Delivery chapters have confirmed their attendance. I haven't yet gathered a response from the Security Chapter, but I hope someone will be able to attend. Please let us know what confcall+webex kind of bridge you plan to setup. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Tue May 15 08:25:18 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 08:25:18 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting In-Reply-To: <4FB1D428.6020001@tid.es> References: <4FA95F26.8010303@tid.es> <4FB1D428.6020001@tid.es> Message-ID: Dear all, To be pragmatic and to focus on main issues during tomorrow virtual meeting, we propose the following agenda: 1. Feedback on previous EPICs submitted by Instant Mobility (20') 2. Multimodal Journey optimisation enabler set (20') 3. Driver & traveller enabler set (20') 4. Vehicle & handheld devices enabler set (20') 5. Public transport operators' enabler set (20') 6. Goods transport operators' enabler set (20') 7. Traffic management enabler set (20') We have a dedicated meeting this morning to send you in the afternoon, based on our sequence diagrams, dedicated questions per GEs we expect to use for Instant Mobility prototype. Best regards. Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com De : Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Envoy? : mardi 15 mai 2012 05:57 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry RD-BIZZ-SOP; patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com; jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest); jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Objet : Re: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Hi, This is a reminder of the virtual meeting we will celebrate tomorrow, from 10:00am until 13:00pm. Bridge details will be forwarded by Lorant Farkas (NSN) soon. Thanks Lorant for offering NSN's help in setting up the logistics. We understand that the agenda will mostly cover the first to items of the agenda you initially proposed (attached), of course shrinking it to fit the allocated time (3 hours). I would advise leaving the last 20 mins to wrap-up. During this wrap-up we may gather a short timeslot to get a quick first feedback from FI-WARE chapter representatives regarding FI-WARE GEs not identified by Instant Mobility which they feel could be useful. This may give InstantMobility a clue about sessions that would be interesting to attend during the educational session weeks, besides those you may be planning already. See you tomorrow. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 08/05/12 20:00, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Thierry, On 07/05/12 11:24, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers' session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. The educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. So far, representatives of the I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud and Applications/Services Ecosystem and Delivery chapters have confirmed their attendance. I haven't yet gathered a response from the Security Chapter, but I hope someone will be able to attend. Please let us know what confcall+webex kind of bridge you plan to setup. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Vehicle & handheld devices enabler set (20') 5. Public transport operators' enabler set (20') 6. Goods transport operators' enabler set (20') 7. Traffic management enabler set (20') 8. (if there is time left) FI-WARE GE-s not identified by Instant Mobility which could be useful Logistics are attached below. Please forward to further participating colleagues from InstantMobility. Thanks & Br, L?r?nt Farkas Senior Research Engineer H-1092 Budapest, Hungary K?ztelek u.6. Tel: +36 20 977 7797 Mob: +36 20 936 9002 lorant.farkas at nsn.com http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/global/ Topic: FI-WARE / InstantMobility Date: Wednesday, 16 May 2012 Time: 10:00, Europe Summer Time (Paris, GMT+02:00) Meeting Number: 706 376 476 Meeting Password: cool ------------------------------------------------------- To start the online meeting ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://nsn.webex.com/nsn/j.php?ED=211818142&UID=483150557&PW=NMzc5OGVjMTZl&RT=MTgjMjM%3D 2. 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I will check issues/doubts after lunch today and will come back with a resolution on any issues before the green flag tomorrow based on discussions over the mailing lists. That way we will prevent that teams start publishing things before fixing any issue. Note that I have updated the template for RESTful API specifications in order to reflect the agreements after discussion of comments raised by the Security chapter. Following is a summary of these changes: * I have drop some standard/fixed contents of the "Intended Audience" section and moved them to the "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section on the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications located at: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Common_aspects_in_FI-WARE_Open_Restful_API_Specifications * I have also refined the text of the "How to Read This Document" section so that it refers to the the common "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section described above * I have moved the "Authentication" and the "Representation Transport" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have simplified the "Representation format" section taken advantage that many of the details that were there can be moved to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have moved fixed contents of the "Limits" and "Extensions" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications. Then, you only need to specify the list of valid error and response codes, together with some examples of valid responses. Nevertheless, it is not absolutely mandatory to adapt to the proposed updated template now if you had already completed your API specification following the previous template. However, the more, the better. You can defer final adaptation to end of June. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Keep in mind that the first objective of this session is also to provide a good feedback from instant Mobility point of view during our review (next week, Tuesday 22nd) and for FI-ware review also, to show that the collaboration is in a good way between UC and Core Platform. We (Instant Mobility) would show during the review that around 20% of GEs are useful and should be integrated to support our prototypes and as we are doing some lobbying now for phase 2 and future trials they should be also partially implemented for large scale pilots between April 2013 and April 2014 and use by services at least during 3 or 6 months with more than 2000 end users. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Wed May 16 10:05:22 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:05:22 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] TR: [Fiware-wpl] [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Message-ID: For the minutes De : CARLOS RALLI UCENDO [mailto:ralli at tid.es] Envoy? : mercredi 16 mai 2012 09:56 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry RD-BIZZ-SOP Cc : patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com; jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com; Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Objet : Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting Thierry, We will be using the following googledoc for notes, action points, providing links, etc. It may work as minutes too if quality is high (people contribute to its generation/correction) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wgQDTczZE6AVouSJBtGAsSO7cn5ps4xr87bMk5Fx1zA/edit Please, forward this e-mail to IM team members to participate in our meeting afterwards. In the beginning of the document, there is an 'Attendees lists' section to be completed by attendants themselves. Normally, background is in yellow and set to white once we actually get into the conference call system avoiding boring rounds to check who has/hasn't joined. Details to access the conference call system are also included. Thanks, Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (ralli at tid.es) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Product Development & Innovation (Telef?nica Digital) Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FI-WARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ El 15/05/2012, a las 05:57, Juanjo Hierro escribi?: Hi, This is a reminder of the virtual meeting we will celebrate tomorrow, from 10:00am until 13:00pm. Bridge details will be forwarded by Lorant Farkas (NSN) soon. Thanks Lorant for offering NSN's help in setting up the logistics. We understand that the agenda will mostly cover the first to items of the agenda you initially proposed (attached), of course shrinking it to fit the allocated time (3 hours). I would advise leaving the last 20 mins to wrap-up. During this wrap-up we may gather a short timeslot to get a quick first feedback from FI-WARE chapter representatives regarding FI-WARE GEs not identified by Instant Mobility which they feel could be useful. This may give InstantMobility a clue about sessions that would be interesting to attend during the educational session weeks, besides those you may be planning already. See you tomorrow. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 08/05/12 20:00, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Thierry, On 07/05/12 11:24, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: Dear Juanjo, We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is not a common developers' session as Instant Mobility technical team would organize with Fi-Ware. Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to ensure Instant Mobility prototype development. The educational sessions are not just organized around description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers. Probably you are aware that each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two. One part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects present). However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to develop. That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will learn more about UC projects.) We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just support information exchange and will require some other meetings to clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work. Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting. That was why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars. We also hope that you can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and every UC project. We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing resources and budget properly. The trade-off was to have two weeks so that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within its calendar. I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE. The EC has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning. Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th from 10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP. Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose. We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback. FI-WARE wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise during the discussion. So far, representatives of the I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud and Applications/Services Ecosystem and Delivery chapters have confirmed their attendance. I haven't yet gathered a response from the Security Chapter, but I hope someone will be able to attend. Please let us know what confcall+webex kind of bridge you plan to setup. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Wed May 16 19:01:54 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 19:01:54 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] GUIDELINES on how to publish Open Specifications In-Reply-To: <4FB21DF5.4020908@tid.es> References: <4FB21DF5.4020908@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FB3DD82.4050805@tid.es> Hi all, Nobody has raised any particular issue, so this is to give you GREEN FLAG to proceed publishing the Open Specifications on the Public Wiki, following the provided guidelines. You have until friday 12:00 CET to carry out the process. Indeed, I believe this can be done in less than one full day, but let's go for that deadline. Please communicate this to your teams. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 15/05/12 11:12, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear colleagues, I have updated the guidelines defined in our private wiki on how to publish the FI-WARE Open Specifications. You can still find them at: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Where_and_how_to_publish_Open_Specifications Please read the guidelines carefully. We WON'T start applying them until tomorrow after I send an email giving you green flag. This is to allow you to read the guidelines first, and raise any issue you may detect or formulate any doubt you may have. I will check issues/doubts after lunch today and will come back with a resolution on any issues before the green flag tomorrow based on discussions over the mailing lists. That way we will prevent that teams start publishing things before fixing any issue. Note that I have updated the template for RESTful API specifications in order to reflect the agreements after discussion of comments raised by the Security chapter. Following is a summary of these changes: * I have drop some standard/fixed contents of the "Intended Audience" section and moved them to the "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section on the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications located at: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Common_aspects_in_FI-WARE_Open_Restful_API_Specifications * I have also refined the text of the "How to Read This Document" section so that it refers to the the common "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section described above * I have moved the "Authentication" and the "Representation Transport" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have simplified the "Representation format" section taken advantage that many of the details that were there can be moved to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have moved fixed contents of the "Limits" and "Extensions" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications. Then, you only need to specify the list of valid error and response codes, together with some examples of valid responses. Nevertheless, it is not absolutely mandatory to adapt to the proposed updated template now if you had already completed your API specification following the previous template. However, the more, the better. You can defer final adaptation to end of June. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Thu May 17 08:22:21 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:22:21 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Your input regarding look&feel design for Message-ID: <4FB4991D.8030603@tid.es> Hi all, The UPM has designed three sets of sketched designs for standard pages (find them below). We would like that you check them and provide feedback about which set you prefer overall, with the ability to replace some elements in the selected set with elements from the other sets (so that, for example, you can say something like "I prefer the Sketch-1 set but would replace the border of buttoms with the one used in the Sketch-2 set and the fonts of the Sketch-3", I guess you catch the idea). The idea is to pick the elements that will conform the basis for the final design, and generate a complete look&feel style guide from them. Such look&feel style guide should then be adopted in all web pages linked to GEs and tools in FI-WARE. Deadline for submitting your input is this Friday EOB. It's a matter of taste, so doesn't requires so much time. Don't feel obligued to provide input, but then don't blame if you dislike the final design to be adopted :-) On the other hand, I kindly ask you to avoid sending comments if you are not particularly well-known for your contributions to the look&feel in web designs or really don't care so much about these issues :-) Sketch-1: * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/948/SKETCH-1-InformationPage.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/949/SKETCH-1-dashboard.jpg * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/950/SKETCH-1-form.jpg Sketch-2: * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/951/SKETCH-2-InformationPage.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/952/SKETCH-2-dashboard.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/953/SKETCH-2-form.jpg Sketch-3 * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/954/SKETCH-3-InformationPage.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/955/SKETCH-3-dashboard.jpg * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/956/SKETCH-3-form.png Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Note that the FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice is already available on the public wiki at: http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-WARE_Open_Specifications_Legal_Notice Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From lorant.farkas at nsn.com Thu May 17 10:57:04 2012 From: lorant.farkas at nsn.com (Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest)) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 11:57:04 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] PLEASE, move ahead In-Reply-To: <4FB4BCA8.2030203@tid.es> References: <4FB4BCA8.2030203@tid.es> Message-ID: <93D28BDF64839C468B848D14227151A2037F255E@FIESEXC014.nsn-intra.net> Hi Juanjo, For the IoT chapter: do we have a GREEN FLAG for publishing also the "streamlined architecture"? Without that we cannot really publish any open specifications. Thanks & Br, Lorant -----Original Message----- From: fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext Juanjo Hierro Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:54 AM To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpa] PLEASE, move ahead Hi, There are WPLs that seem like they haven't given the green flag to upload the FI-WARE Open Specifications onto the wiki nor forwarded the guidelines for doing so. If I don't see any reaction/activity on your mailing lists before 12:00 CET, I will forward the green flag and guidelines myself to your list to avoid any bottleneck. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx _______________________________________________ Fiware-wpa mailing list Fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpa From jhierro at tid.es Thu May 17 17:58:09 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 17:58:09 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] PLEASE, move ahead In-Reply-To: <4FB4BCA8.2030203@tid.es> References: <4FB4BCA8.2030203@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FB52011.5020009@tid.es> Hi, I have sent direct messages to the Apps, Cloud and Security chapter teams based on what I already announced. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 17/05/12 10:54, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Hi, > > There are WPLs that seem like they haven't given the green flag to > upload the FI-WARE Open Specifications onto the wiki nor forwarded the > guidelines for doing so. > > If I don't see any reaction/activity on your mailing lists before > 12:00 CET, I will forward the green flag and guidelines myself to your > list to avoid any bottleneck. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From jhierro at tid.es Thu May 17 18:44:56 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:44:56 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Fwd: Document on Trade-off and responsibilities in phases 2 and 3 of the FI-PPP In-Reply-To: <4FB529F6.7020208@tid.es> References: <4FB529F6.7020208@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FB52B08.4020208@tid.es> Hi all, Please find enclosed mail sent to the FI-PPP SB from the FI-PPP AB regarding the document on Trade-off and responsibilities in phases 2 and 3 of the FI-PPP that has been developed by members of the FI-PPP AB. You already were aware of the existence of this document because I circulated it some weeks ago. Now, it is the time to carry out the final revision by FI-WARE, to determine whether we can endorse it or not. Your feedback about how to proceed is welcome ... should we just proceed to send it to all FI-WARE partners (i.e., by email to fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu) ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Document on Trade-off and responsibilities in phases 2 and 3 of the FI-PPP Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:40:22 +0200 From: Juanjo Hierro To: sb at fi-ppp.eu CC: ab at fi-ppp.eu , jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Dear members of the FI-PPP Steering Board, As you already know, the FI-PPP Architecture Board has been working on a paper that summarizes a number of trade-offs to be considered, and responsibilities to be assumed by the different projects, in phases 2 and 3 of the FI-PPP Program. Find enclosed the version of the paper we have produced. This document will be circulated among the consortia of each FI-PPP projects, in order to collect further comments from the partners (the defined deadline for gathering comments: May 25th EOB). Unless gathered comments become difficult to integrate, or strong controversia is raised, I feel like we may have a final version of the paper by end of May. Note that this document cannot be yet considered as endorsed by projects under the FI-PPP umbrella, including FI-WARE. That's why we have to carry out this final round of review involving all partners. I would kindly ask members of the SB to push for revision of this important paper within the projects they represent. Besides, I would like to put in the hands of the SB a number of decisions: * Whether to share or not the current draft with the EC as well as our current schedule/plan for delivering a final version. My own recommendation would be to share this info with the EC as soon as possible. * How to made the final version of the document publicly available. My recommendation would be that it be published in the FI-PPP portal, at some place it can be easily found. CONCORD should take care of including these points in the agenda of the next Steering Board meeting. I'm happy to answer any question you may have. 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But there is some sense of chaos that needs to be fixed Best Regards Juan From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro Sent: jueves, 17 de mayo de 2012 8:22 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: Juan Quemada Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Your input regarding look&feel design for Hi all, The UPM has designed three sets of sketched designs for standard pages (find them below). We would like that you check them and provide feedback about which set you prefer overall, with the ability to replace some elements in the selected set with elements from the other sets (so that, for example, you can say something like "I prefer the Sketch-1 set but would replace the border of buttoms with the one used in the Sketch-2 set and the fonts of the Sketch-3", I guess you catch the idea). The idea is to pick the elements that will conform the basis for the final design, and generate a complete look&feel style guide from them. Such look&feel style guide should then be adopted in all web pages linked to GEs and tools in FI-WARE. Deadline for submitting your input is this Friday EOB. It's a matter of taste, so doesn't requires so much time. Don't feel obligued to provide input, but then don't blame if you dislike the final design to be adopted :-) On the other hand, I kindly ask you to avoid sending comments if you are not particularly well-known for your contributions to the look&feel in web designs or really don't care so much about these issues :-) Sketch-1: * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/948/SKETCH-1-InformationPage.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/949/SKETCH-1-dashboard.jpg * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/950/SKETCH-1-form.jpg Sketch-2: * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/951/SKETCH-2-InformationPage.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/952/SKETCH-2-dashboard.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/953/SKETCH-2-form.jpg Sketch-3 * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/954/SKETCH-3-InformationPage.png * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/955/SKETCH-3-dashboard.jpg * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/956/SKETCH-3-form.png Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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URL: From torsten.leidig at sap.com Fri May 18 13:03:06 2012 From: torsten.leidig at sap.com (Leidig, Torsten) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 13:03:06 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] GUIDELINES on how to publish Open Specifications In-Reply-To: <4FB21DF5.4020908@tid.es> Message-ID: Dear Juanjo, I still haven't figured out what the naming convention is. If I look what others do I find a lot of variations, e.g. FIWARE.ArchitectureDescription.Data.SemanticSupport.Open RESTful API Specification (PRELIMINARY) FIWARE.ArchitectureDescription.Data.SemanticSupport.OMV Open Specification (DRAFT) FI-WARE NGSI Open RESTful API Specification (PRELIMINARY) FIWARE.OpenSpecification.Apps.MediatorREST I can't understand why we don't simply stay with the naming scheme we had in the past. I also would propose to make use of categories of MediaWiki. Tagging the paged with [[Category:Chapter]], [[Category:Generic Enabler]], and [[Category:OpenSpecification]] would help the user to find relevant information better. Just to be sure, could you please clarify? Regards, Torsten Dr. Torsten Leidig SAP Research Center CEC Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Prie?nitz-Str. 1 76131 Karlsruhe T +49 6227 7 52535 F +49 6227 78 29753 E torsten.leidig at sap.com http://www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements:http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform us immediately and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you for your cooperation. From: Juanjo Hierro > Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:12:21 +0200 To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" >, "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" > Subject: [Fiware-wpa] GUIDELINES on how to publish Open Specifications Dear colleagues, I have updated the guidelines defined in our private wiki on how to publish the FI-WARE Open Specifications. You can still find them at: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Where_and_how_to_publish_Open_Specifications Please read the guidelines carefully. We WON'T start applying them until tomorrow after I send an email giving you green flag. This is to allow you to read the guidelines first, and raise any issue you may detect or formulate any doubt you may have. I will check issues/doubts after lunch today and will come back with a resolution on any issues before the green flag tomorrow based on discussions over the mailing lists. That way we will prevent that teams start publishing things before fixing any issue. Note that I have updated the template for RESTful API specifications in order to reflect the agreements after discussion of comments raised by the Security chapter. Following is a summary of these changes: * I have drop some standard/fixed contents of the "Intended Audience" section and moved them to the "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section on the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications located at: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Common_aspects_in_FI-WARE_Open_Restful_API_Specifications * I have also refined the text of the "How to Read This Document" section so that it refers to the the common "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section described above * I have moved the "Authentication" and the "Representation Transport" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have simplified the "Representation format" section taken advantage that many of the details that were there can be moved to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have moved fixed contents of the "Limits" and "Extensions" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications. Then, you only need to specify the list of valid error and response codes, together with some examples of valid responses. Nevertheless, it is not absolutely mandatory to adapt to the proposed updated template now if you had already completed your API specification following the previous template. However, the more, the better. You can defer final adaptation to end of June. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Fri May 18 17:02:06 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 17:02:06 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] GUIDELINES on how to publish Open Specifications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FB6646E.9090507@tid.es> Hi, Sorry that I couldn't get back to you earlier, but I have been travelling to Sevilla, in order to push activities linked to the setup of the FI-WARE Testbed ... Using an ID of the form "FIWARE.ArchitectureDescription..." for the specific name of an API doesn't work because there might be an API (this is actually the case of the FI-WARE NGSI API) that is used by GEs in several chapters. The . part of the ID doesn't work and then, just adding the "FIWARE.ArchitectureDescription" prefix doesn't add any value. Therefore, just use " Open [RESTful] [API] Specification" ("API" and "RESTful" being part of the title in case it is an API specification or a RESTful API specification, respectively) Among the examples you provide, the only one I find appropriate is FI-WARE NGSI Open RESTful API Specification (PRELIMINARY). Hope this answer helps. -- Juanjo P.S.: I hope you agree that these are the kind of questions you may have raised when I circulated the guidelines and gave one full day to raise issues. ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 18/05/12 13:03, Leidig, Torsten wrote: Dear Juanjo, I still haven't figured out what the naming convention is. If I look what others do I find a lot of variations, e.g. FIWARE.ArchitectureDescription.Data.SemanticSupport.Open RESTful API Specification (PRELIMINARY) FIWARE.ArchitectureDescription.Data.SemanticSupport.OMV Open Specification (DRAFT) FI-WARE NGSI Open RESTful API Specification (PRELIMINARY) FIWARE.OpenSpecification.Apps.MediatorREST I can't understand why we don't simply stay with the naming scheme we had in the past. I also would propose to make use of categories of MediaWiki. Tagging the paged with [[Category:Chapter]], [[Category:Generic Enabler]], and [[Category:OpenSpecification]] would help the user to find relevant information better. Just to be sure, could you please clarify? Regards, Torsten Dr. Torsten Leidig SAP Research Center CEC Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Prie?nitz-Str. 1 76131 Karlsruhe T +49 6227 7 52535 F +49 6227 78 29753 E torsten.leidig at sap.com http://www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements:http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform us immediately and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you for your cooperation. From: Juanjo Hierro > Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 11:12:21 +0200 To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" >, "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" > Subject: [Fiware-wpa] GUIDELINES on how to publish Open Specifications Dear colleagues, I have updated the guidelines defined in our private wiki on how to publish the FI-WARE Open Specifications. You can still find them at: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Where_and_how_to_publish_Open_Specifications Please read the guidelines carefully. We WON'T start applying them until tomorrow after I send an email giving you green flag. This is to allow you to read the guidelines first, and raise any issue you may detect or formulate any doubt you may have. I will check issues/doubts after lunch today and will come back with a resolution on any issues before the green flag tomorrow based on discussions over the mailing lists. That way we will prevent that teams start publishing things before fixing any issue. Note that I have updated the template for RESTful API specifications in order to reflect the agreements after discussion of comments raised by the Security chapter. Following is a summary of these changes: * I have drop some standard/fixed contents of the "Intended Audience" section and moved them to the "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section on the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications located at: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fi-ware-private/index.php/Common_aspects_in_FI-WARE_Open_Restful_API_Specifications * I have also refined the text of the "How to Read This Document" section so that it refers to the the common "How to read FI-WARE RESTful API Specifications" section described above * I have moved the "Authentication" and the "Representation Transport" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have simplified the "Representation format" section taken advantage that many of the details that were there can be moved to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications * I have moved fixed contents of the "Limits" and "Extensions" sections to the single common page we have defined for common aspects in FI-WARE RESTful API specifications. Then, you only need to specify the list of valid error and response codes, together with some examples of valid responses. Nevertheless, it is not absolutely mandatory to adapt to the proposed updated template now if you had already completed your API specification following the previous template. However, the more, the better. You can defer final adaptation to end of June. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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We would like that you check them and > provide feedback about which set you prefer overall, with the ability > to replace some elements in the selected set with elements from the > other sets (so that, for example, you can say something like "I prefer > the Sketch-1 set but would replace the border of buttoms with the one > used in the Sketch-2 set and the fonts of the Sketch-3", I guess you > catch the idea). > > The idea is to pick the elements that will conform the basis for the > final design, and generate a complete look&feel style guide from > them. Such look&feel style guide should then be adopted in all web > pages linked to GEs and tools in FI-WARE. > > Deadline for submitting your input is this Friday EOB. It's a > matter of taste, so doesn't requires so much time. Don't feel > obligued to provide input, but then don't blame if you dislike the > final design to be adopted :-) On the other hand, I kindly ask you > to avoid sending comments if you are not particularly well-known for > your contributions to the look&feel in web designs or really don't > care so much about these issues :-) > > > Sketch-1: > > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/948/SKETCH-1-InformationPage.png > > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/949/SKETCH-1-dashboard.jpg > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/950/SKETCH-1-form.jpg > > > Sketch-2: > > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/951/SKETCH-2-InformationPage.png > > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/952/SKETCH-2-dashboard.png > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/953/SKETCH-2-form.jpg > > > Sketch-3 > > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/954/SKETCH-3-InformationPage.png > > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/955/SKETCH-3-dashboard.jpg > * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/7/956/SKETCH-3-form.png > > > Best regards, > > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website:www.tid.es > email:jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website:http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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You tried to follow defined template but didn't adapt the contents. Frankly speaking, I was astonished. I have tried to fix what I found, but I request you to perform a review. Just as an example, you could read in the Repository API (and the rest of APIs): * This specification is intended for both software developers and Cloud Providers. For the former, this document provides a full specification of how to interoperate with Cloud Platforms that implements API. For the latter, this specification indicates the interface to be provided in order to clients to interoperate with Cloud Platform to provide the described functionalities. * You have to change the names of -- ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 20/05/12 10:52, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Hi all, I have devoted some time to review the status of Open Specifications on the public wiki. Please find my comments below: * Apps Chapter:: * You seem like you haven't read some of the specs once they have been uploaded. You tried to follow defined template but didn't adapt the contents. Frankly speaking, I was astonished. I have tried to fix what I found, but I request you to perform a review. Just as an example, you could read in the Repository API (and the rest of APIs): * This specification is intended for both software developers and Cloud Providers. For the former, this document provides a full specification of how to interoperate with Cloud Platforms that implements API. For the latter, this specification indicates the interface to be provided in order to clients to interoperate with Cloud Platform to provide the described functionalities. * You have to change the names of -- ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. 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URL: From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Mon May 21 15:31:39 2012 From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 15:31:39 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: dear axel, very much true, but it is also true that we always said and wrote that fi-ware fosters the adoption of open liceses. so in case an organisation decides in a different way, in my opinion, this must be communicated and justified. of course without preventing a free choice. please consider that the ownership of the output is not under discussion. my two cents ... ciao, stefano 2012/5/21 Fasse, Axel > Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, **** > > ** ** > > we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you > have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based > upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and > the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the > Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. **** > > We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of > its choice under which the release to the public can happen.**** > > ** ** > > Best regards, **** > > ** ** > > Axel Fasse**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *---------------------------* > > * * > > *Axel Fasse > *Senior Researcher* > *SAP Research Karlsruhe**** > > ** ** > > *SAP AG** > *Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 **** > > 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany**** > > * * > > T +49 6227 7-52528* > *F +49 6227 78-55237* > *M +4915153858917* > *E *axel.fasse at sap.com***** > > * > *www.sap.com**** > > * > *Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: > http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx* > > *Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige > vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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Thank you for your cooperation.**** > > ** ** > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wpl mailing list > Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl > > -- Stefano De Panfilis Chief Innovation Officer Engineering Ingegneria Informatica S.p.A. via Riccardo Morandi 32 00148 Roma Italy tel (direct): +39-068307-4295 tel (secr.): +39-068307-4513 fax: +39-068307-4200 cell: +39-335-7542-567 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 21 16:09:10 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:09:10 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: <4FBA4C86.9040404@tid.es> Dear Axel, We are not talking here about the license of Generic Enabler implementations. The license applicable to a Generic Enabler implementation is up to the party who generates that particular Generic Enabler implementation, as already established by the CA. So DO NOT OPEN DEBATES on a matter THAT DON'T EXIST. What we were talking about here is the license of Generic Enabler Specifications, which as the CA stands, have to be public and royalty-free. On the other hand, we thought it was not a rather good idea going public without adding some sort of disclaimer about liability. That's why we considered that defining a single license for FI-WARE Generic Enabler Specifications, which essentially states the open and royalty-free nature of the specs and established this disclaimer on liability, was the right thing to do. Note that this legal notice is similar to the one any other industry consortia who pretends that their specifications gets adopted actually incorporate in their published specs (e.g., W3C, Oasis, etc). Adopting an approach that means that the license Generic Enabler Specifications is defined per Generic Enabler Specification will become unmanageable. Overall when there are several clear cases (e.g., the FI-WARE NGSI specification) where several companies are involved and it's unclear who can be entitled to become the only "owners" of the specs. It would create also a lot of confusion in the users of the specs who would wonder why there are so many variants and whether they would lead to incompatibilities. Do definitively we have to go for a single legal notice on specifications. A different story is about copyright of the specifications. You may argue that going for a "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" for all specifications is too simplistic, but ... who is going to arbitrate who is the actual owner of a given spec that has been produced in a collaborative manner (incorporating comments from peer-reviewers, ideas during joint meetings, etc) ? Again a much different story applies to GE Implementations where clearly the contribution of parties can be measured and then ownership of each party can be determined. Please don't mix different things. Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. 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Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Mon May 21 16:22:26 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:22:26 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models In-Reply-To: <4FBA4D35.4050901@tid.es> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA4C86.9040404@tid.es> <4FBA4D35.4050901@tid.es> Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABF57@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Juanjo, you don't have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all partners. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Axel, Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 21 16:36:39 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:36:39 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABF57@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA4C86.9040404@tid.es> <4FBA4D35.4050901@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABF57@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: <4FBA52F7.7050103@tid.es> Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. Thanks and best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, you don?t have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all partners. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Axel, Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Mon May 21 16:46:53 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:46:53 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models In-Reply-To: <4FBA52F7.7050103@tid.es> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA4C86.9040404@tid.es> <4FBA4D35.4050901@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABF57@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA52F7.7050103@tid.es> Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3AC03E@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Juanjo, I'm already in discussions with our colleagues from the legal department. You will get a feedback as soon as possible. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:37 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. Thanks and best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, you don't have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all partners. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Axel, Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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URL: From GLIKSON at il.ibm.com Mon May 21 23:21:23 2012 From: GLIKSON at il.ibm.com (Alex Glikson) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 00:21:23 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3AC03E@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA4C86.9040404@tid.es> <4FBA4D35.4050901@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABF57@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA52F7.7050103@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3AC03E@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear Juanjo, all, Our legal department says there is no legal entity known as FIWARE Project Parties. So FIWARE Project Parties can not be the owners of anything, and can not be copyright owners either. It also says in the CA and the GA, that the party that creates the Foreground is the owner of the Foreground. While IBM supports making the specifications public, as per the DOW, the DOW does not say we need to also give away ownership to what we wrote. If you would like to write on your material "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" that is your decision. But we believe that each Party should be able to decide if they want to retain ownership of their own material. Regards, Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: "Fasse, Axel" To: Juanjo Hierro , Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" Date: 21/05/2012 05:47 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear Juanjo, I?m already in discussions with our colleagues from the legal department. You will get a feedback as soon as possible. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:37 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. Thanks and best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, you don?t have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all partners. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Axel, Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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URL: From jhierro at tid.es Tue May 22 04:21:55 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 04:21:55 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models In-Reply-To: References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA4C86.9040404@tid.es> <4FBA4D35.4050901@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABF57@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA52F7.7050103@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3AC03E@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: <4FBAF843.5010101@tid.es> On 21/05/12 23:21, Alex Glikson wrote: Dear Juanjo, all, Our legal department says there is no legal entity known as FIWARE Project Parties. So FIWARE Project Parties can not be the owners of anything, and can not be copyright owners either. Well ... the trick here was that "FI-WARE Project Partners" on the wiki is a link to the wiki page where project partners are listed ... so we thought was a kind of abbreviation of the whole list of partners ... BTW, I have replaced any ocurrence of the "FI-WARE partner" in the legal notice by "FI-WARE Project Partners" with the link to the wiki page listing the FI-WARE Project Partners for consistency. It also says in the CA and the GA, that the party that creates the Foreground is the owner of the Foreground. Nothing is said in the published FI-WARE Legal Notice about ownership. The legal notice covers license to use which is different. What the legal notices says in that respect is, essentially, that the specs are public and royalty-free, therefore anyone can build products based on them, that the FI-WARE partners are not responsible for identifying infringed patents, and that the FI-WARE partners are not liable for errors in the specifications. It doesn't say anything about ownership, so therefore any agreement between FI-WARE partners about such ownerships (i.e., whatever is stated in the CA/GA regarding ownership, prevails). Note that ownership doesn't equal to license to use which is what we have tried to regulate here according to the CA/GA. While IBM supports making the specifications public, as per the DOW, the DOW does not say we need to also give away ownership to what we wrote. I don't see what are we giving away about ownership with the current legal notice either. If you would like to write on your material "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" that is your decision. But we believe that each Party should be able to decide if they want to retain ownership of their own material. That's why I proposed to change the sentence to say "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" (FI-WARE project partners being a link), and then you can negotiate the copyright that should come with whatever spec has been produced within your chapter with the contributing parties. Do you object to that formula ? Indeed I believe it covers your demands ... since you will be able to specify a different copyright statement (but not license to use) on what you consider your material. Note that, regarding copyright, we just tried to avoid going public without any sort of copyright. Now you can fix it if we introduce the proposed change. Regarding the rest of the Legal Notice, we are just defining the license to use specifications, in line with what the CA/GA states. We don't say anything about ownership, so the CA/GA prevails. Best regards, -- Juanjo Regards, Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: "Fasse, Axel" To: Juanjo Hierro , Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" Date: 21/05/2012 05:47 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu ________________________________ Dear Juanjo, I?m already in discussions with our colleagues from the legal department. You will get a feedback as soon as possible. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:37 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. Thanks and best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, you don?t have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all partners. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Axel, Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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URL: From nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Tue May 22 14:51:19 2012 From: nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu (Nuria De-Lama Sanchez) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 14:51:19 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] IPR Management-missing info to be completed ASAP (WPL responsibilities) Message-ID: <66E3B1FDDB04BE4D92DC3A2BA8D98D9ABF1547@INTMAIL03.es.int.atosorigin.com> Dear WP leaders, As you well know, my colleagues in WP11 are working in the IPR management activity. They have been asking each of you about the fulfillment of the tables created for the purpose of specifying the type of license of each asset. However, and despite the time devoted to that and the subsequent reminders not everything is ready for the review, and furthermore, not everything is ready for the deliverable that should be submitted next week. This is now an urgent issue. I suppose that you are also conscious of the questions made by use case projects in that respect (I am sure that this issue has been raised this week in Zurich). Therefore, let me point out THREE VERY IMPORTANT points that you need either to complete or to take into account. ? Each WPL/WPA has to complete the tables of his chapter. Some of them have red text or missing information ? DEADLINE for this is next Friday (take advantage of the meetings in Zurich to clarify any doubt you have) ? As you can see in the tables, the license type is associated to each asset. Since every GE is composed of one or several assets what we have to ensure is that all the license types are compatible for the GE implementation. o Therefore, make sure that each asset has a type license o Fill in the cell of license compatibility at the level of GE (not asset!) ? of course, in the end the statement should make visible the fact that all the assets that are part of the GE implementation can work together without major issues. If not, come back to us ASAP o If one or several assets are open source components that you take from Internet, please, give the source in the cell devoted to ownership ? avoid saying "unknown" or leaving the space without specifying anything o If you want an example of a GE that has been completed as we need it check the BigData GE. ? Finally, we have realized that many assets have the "label" CLOSED (license type) ? this should be replaced by FRAND As far as we understand all SW should be realized at least under FRAND conditions (this should be the most restricted term). I hope this is clear for everyone. If not, come to my colleagues Carmen and Juan (keeping me in CC for the sake of coordination). Thanks in advance for your work! 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The first part "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" while with the right intention, is not legally binding on anything or anyone. The term" FI-WARE Project partners" is not defined in any legally binding document. Additionally, it is according to the CA and the GA that each Part is to write Copyright ? 2012 by . Anything other than that is not in line with the GA or CA. II.26. Ownership 1. Foreground shall be the property of the beneficiary carrying out the work generating that foreground. As to the second part, while the language may be acceptable, it is only suggested that each party review it with their own legal department. As an example, IBM has many standard licenses that we use for many purposes. We will review this license, and decide to adopt it or a similar IBM one. I can not thank you enough, or express our appreciation for all the hard work you have done as coordinator. thank you! Suzanne Suzanne Erez Counsel, IPLaw, Israel Associate PPM, PPM 150, 160 IBM Haifa, Israel suzanne at il.ibm.com Tel:? 972-4-829-6069? Fax:? 972-4-829-6521 "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work" -- Thomas Edison, American inventor PREPARED BY IBM ATTORNEY / PRIVILEGE REVIEW REQUIRED This e-mail and its attachments, if any, may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client, solicitor-client or other privilege. If you received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your system without copying it and notify me of the misdirection by reply e-mail. From: Juanjo Hierro To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, Cc: "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Suzanne Erez/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, LUIS GARCIA GARCIA , "jhierro >> \"Juan J. Hierro \"" Date: 21/05/2012 09:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models On 21/05/12 23:21, Alex Glikson wrote: Dear Juanjo, all, Our legal department says there is no legal entity known as FIWARE Project Parties. So FIWARE Project Parties can not be the owners of anything, and can not be copyright owners either. Well ... the trick here was that "FI-WARE Project Partners" on the wiki is a link to the wiki page where project partners are listed ... so we thought was a kind of abbreviation of the whole list of partners ... BTW, I have replaced any ocurrence of the "FI-WARE partner" in the legal notice by "FI-WARE Project Partners" with the link to the wiki page listing the FI-WARE Project Partners for consistency. It also says in the CA and the GA, that the party that creates the Foreground is the owner of the Foreground. Nothing is said in the published FI-WARE Legal Notice about ownership. The legal notice covers license to use which is different. What the legal notices says in that respect is, essentially, that the specs are public and royalty-free, therefore anyone can build products based on them, that the FI-WARE partners are not responsible for identifying infringed patents, and that the FI-WARE partners are not liable for errors in the specifications. It doesn't say anything about ownership, so therefore any agreement between FI-WARE partners about such ownerships (i.e., whatever is stated in the CA/GA regarding ownership, prevails). Note that ownership doesn't equal to license to use which is what we have tried to regulate here according to the CA/GA. While IBM supports making the specifications public, as per the DOW, the DOW does not say we need to also give away ownership to what we wrote. I don't see what are we giving away about ownership with the current legal notice either. If you would like to write on your material "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" that is your decision. But we believe that each Party should be able to decide if they want to retain ownership of their own material. That's why I proposed to change the sentence to say "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" (FI-WARE project partners being a link), and then you can negotiate the copyright that should come with whatever spec has been produced within your chapter with the contributing parties. Do you object to that formula ? Indeed I believe it covers your demands ... since you will be able to specify a different copyright statement (but not license to use) on what you consider your material. Note that, regarding copyright, we just tried to avoid going public without any sort of copyright. Now you can fix it if we introduce the proposed change. Regarding the rest of the Legal Notice, we are just defining the license to use specifications, in line with what the CA/GA states. We don't say anything about ownership, so the CA/GA prevails. Best regards, -- Juanjo Regards, Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: "Fasse, Axel" To: Juanjo Hierro , Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" Date: 21/05/2012 05:47 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear Juanjo, I?m already in discussions with our colleagues from the legal department. You will get a feedback as soon as possible. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:37 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. Thanks and best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, you don?t have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all partners. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Axel, Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic Enabler. We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a license of its choice under which the release to the public can happen. Best regards, Axel Fasse --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. Please inform us immediately and destroy the original transmittal. Thank you for your cooperation. Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From kathrin.schweppe at sap.com Tue May 22 15:02:45 2012 From: kathrin.schweppe at sap.com (Schweppe, Kathrin) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 15:02:45 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models In-Reply-To: References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABD74@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA4C86.9040404@tid.es> <4FBA4D35.4050901@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3ABF57@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBA52F7.7050103@tid.es> <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A6360CC3AC03E@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> <4FBAF843.5010101@tid.es> Message-ID: <7ED7B27AF3542948BAB7BCD179A7677C13507FB018@DEWDFECCR03.wdf.sap.corp> Juanjo, SAP totally agrees with Suzanne's explanation and support her point of view with regard to both points. Best regards, Kathrin Kathrin Schweppe, LL.M. Legal Counsel Global Legal SAP AG Dietmar-Hopp-Allee 16 69190 Walldorf, Germany T +49 6227 7-64369 F +49 6227 78-54177 E kathrin.schweppe at sap.com http://www.sap.com Sitz der Gesellschaft/Registered Office: Walldorf, Germany Vorstand/SAP Executive Board: Bill McDermot (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Jim Hagemann Snabe (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Werner Brandt, Gerhard Oswald, Vishal Sikka Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats/Chairperson of the SAP Supervisory Board: Hasso Plattner Registergericht/Commercial Register Mannheim No HRB 350269 Diese e-mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse, dem Anwaltsgeheimnis unterliegende oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese e-mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der e-mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene e-mail. Vielen Dank. Prepared by a member of SAP Global Legal. This message and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, private or protected by the attorney-client or other privilege. If you have received this email in error, please delete this message without further copying or distribution and promptly notify me. Thank you for your cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: Suzanne Erez [mailto:SUZANNE at il.ibm.com] Sent: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012 14:57 To: Juanjo Hierro Cc: Alex Glikson; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; LUIS GARCIA GARCIA; Schweppe, Kathrin Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models Juanjo, Thank you for your note and for the explanation. It was helpful to understand what your purpose is. There are two parts to the license - 1) the copyright statement and 2) the license terms. The first part "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" while with the right intention, is not legally binding on anything or anyone. The term" FI-WARE Project partners" is not defined in any legally binding document. Additionally, it is according to the CA and the GA that each Part is to write Copyright ? 2012 by . Anything other than that is not in line with the GA or CA. II.26. Ownership 1. Foreground shall be the property of the beneficiary carrying out the work generating that foreground. As to the second part, while the language may be acceptable, it is only suggested that each party review it with their own legal department. As an example, IBM has many standard licenses that we use for many purposes. We will review this license, and decide to adopt it or a similar IBM one. I can not thank you enough, or express our appreciation for all the hard work you have done as coordinator. thank you! Suzanne Suzanne Erez Counsel, IPLaw, Israel Associate PPM, PPM 150, 160 IBM Haifa, Israel suzanne at il.ibm.com Tel: 972-4-829-6069 Fax: 972-4-829-6521 "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work" -- Thomas Edison, American inventor PREPARED BY IBM ATTORNEY / PRIVILEGE REVIEW REQUIRED This e-mail and its attachments, if any, may contain information that is private, confidential, or protected by attorney-client, solicitor-client or other privilege. If you received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your system without copying it and notify me of the misdirection by reply e-mail. From: Juanjo Hierro To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, Cc: "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Suzanne Erez/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, LUIS GARCIA GARCIA , "jhierro >> \"Juan J. Hierro \"" Date: 21/05/2012 09:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models On 21/05/12 23:21, Alex Glikson wrote: Dear Juanjo, all, Our legal department says there is no legal entity known as FIWARE Project Parties. So FIWARE Project Parties can not be the owners of anything, and can not be copyright owners either. Well ... the trick here was that "FI-WARE Project Partners" on the wiki is a link to the wiki page where project partners are listed ... so we thought was a kind of abbreviation of the whole list of partners ... BTW, I have replaced any ocurrence of the "FI-WARE partner" in the legal notice by "FI-WARE Project Partners" with the link to the wiki page listing the FI-WARE Project Partners for consistency. It also says in the CA and the GA, that the party that creates the Foreground is the owner of the Foreground. Nothing is said in the published FI-WARE Legal Notice about ownership. The legal notice covers license to use which is different. What the legal notices says in that respect is, essentially, that the specs are public and royalty-free, therefore anyone can build products based on them, that the FI-WARE partners are not responsible for identifying infringed patents, and that the FI-WARE partners are not liable for errors in the specifications. It doesn't say anything about ownership, so therefore any agreement between FI-WARE partners about such ownerships (i.e., whatever is stated in the CA/GA regarding ownership, prevails). Note that ownership doesn't equal to license to use which is what we have tried to regulate here according to the CA/GA. While IBM supports making the specifications public, as per the DOW, the DOW does not say we need to also give away ownership to what we wrote. I don't see what are we giving away about ownership with the current legal notice either. If you would like to write on your material "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" that is your decision. But we believe that each Party should be able to decide if they want to retain ownership of their own material. That's why I proposed to change the sentence to say "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" (FI-WARE project partners being a link), and then you can negotiate the copyright that should come with whatever spec has been produced within your chapter with the contributing parties. Do you object to that formula ? Indeed I believe it covers your demands ... since you will be able to specify a different copyright statement (but not license to use) on what you consider your material. Note that, regarding copyright, we just tried to avoid going public without any sort of copyright. Now you can fix it if we introduce the proposed change. Regarding the rest of the Legal Notice, we are just defining the license to use specifications, in line with what the CA/GA states. We don't say anything about ownership, so the CA/GA prevails. Best regards, -- Juanjo Regards, Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: "Fasse, Axel" To: Juanjo Hierro , Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" Date: 21/05/2012 05:47 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear Juanjo, I?m already in discussions with our colleagues from the legal department. You will get a feedback as soon as possible. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:37 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. Thanks and best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, you don?t have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all partners. Best regards, Axel From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear Axel, Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their opinion is written down. Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) Best regards, -- Juanjo Would that work for you ? Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License you have supplied us. 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We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Tue May 22 17:05:52 2012 From: nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu (Nuria De-Lama Sanchez) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 17:05:52 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Pending input for T11.3 Market awareness, Policy and Regulation_URGENT Message-ID: <66E3B1FDDB04BE4D92DC3A2BA8D98D9ABF162D@INTMAIL03.es.int.atosorigin.com> Dear WP leaders and partners involved in exploitation activities (WP11), Carmen and Juan have updated you about the progress of the activities the project is carrying out in the domain of market awareness as well as policy and regulation. Unfortunately not all people have contributed as expected and required by the project. This has to be solved ASAP because we need to close the deliverable. Specifically what we need from you is: ? Go to the forge: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness ? Each WP leader to complete the information about o Relevant barriers encountered in your specific chapters (mainly about policy, regulation, etc). The barriers were identified by CONCORD and they are classified into different chapters (IoT, cloud, App, Data) o Go to your chapter and make sure you provide input in the two sections: where we are (what FI-WARE has identified with respect to each domain) and WHERE WE SHOULD BE (it makes reference to the necessary actions or recommendations that should be undertaken, not only by FI-WARE, but also by the FI PPP as a whole) ? Information about National events (business related). Please, provide input about events/workshops/meetings organized by your organizations: o Germany ? responsible: SAP o France ? responsible: Thales o Italy ? Engineering, Telecom Italia o Others (if any) ? In the wiki you can see sections related to contacts or tools we could use for the purpose of market awareness. It would be amazing if you could contribute (is it really so difficult taking into account that you are people with a lot of resources and very dynamic in many bodies/associations/initiatives?. Current chapters include: o Smart Cities o Business associations and other bodies Thanks again for your contributions. Deadline: next Friday. Nuria de Lama Research & Innovation Representative to the European Commission T +34 91214 9321 F +34 91754 3252 nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Albarrac?n 25 28037 Madrid Spain www.atosresearch.eu es.atos.net ________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. 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Legal Counsel Global Legal SAP AG Dietmar-Hopp-Allee 16 69190 Walldorf, Germany T +49 6227 7-64369 F +49 6227 78-54177 E kathrin.schweppe at sap.com http://www.sap.com Sitz der Gesellschaft/Registered Office: Walldorf, Germany Vorstand/SAP Executive Board: Bill McDermot (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Jim Hagemann Snabe (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Werner Brandt, Gerhard Oswald, Vishal Sikka Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats/Chairperson of the SAP Supervisory Board: Hasso Plattner Registergericht/Commercial Register Mannheim No HRB 350269 Diese e-mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse, dem Anwaltsgeheimnis unterliegende oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese e-mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der e-mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene e-mail. Vielen Dank. Prepared by a member of SAP Global Legal. This message and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, private or protected by the attorney-client or other privilege. If you have received this email in error, please delete this message without further copying or distribution and promptly notify me. Thank you for your cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-legal-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro Sent: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012 17:11 To: fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-legal] FW: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models Dear colleagues of legal departments, Going for a different legal notice, regarding the license to use GE Open Specifications, for each and every GE Open Specification will IMHO totally JEOPARDIZE the chances to achieve the expected impact with a project like FI-WARE. It will introduce a lot of confussion on potential users of the spec. Should they have to learn and analyze each and every license to use terms when, at the end of the day, they should end supporting the same CA clauses regarding public and royalty-free nature of specifications ? No single organization trying to achieve the goal of producing a uniform set of specifications (and I remind you that we are trying to develop here one) does anything like that. People would simply dismiss our potential contribution. The discussion about ownership of foreground, by the way, does not have anything to do with this discussion on how license the use of that foreground. The CA/GA is clear stating that foreground that is a FI-WARE GE implementation is licensed under the terms that the owner of that GE implementation determines (though has to be offered free of charge with the FI-PPP program and following FRAND terms otherwise). However, it is also clear stating that foreground that is a FI-WARE GE Open Specification has to be licensed royalty-free, allowing any party to develop implementations in compliance with the spec. There is therefore no reason why we cannot find a single common license for using FI-WARE GE Open Specifications. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 22/05/12 16:41, Schweppe, Kathrin wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > please find below some discussions about the License, Telefonica proposed on Thursday for the Generic Enabler Specifications. I assume, it is beneficial for all partners to consider IBMs proposal. > > SAP supports IBM's point of view. > > Best regards, > Kathrin > > Kathrin Schweppe, LL.M. > Legal Counsel > Global Legal > SAP AG > Dietmar-Hopp-Allee 16 > 69190 Walldorf, Germany > T +49 6227 7-64369 > F +49 6227 78-54177 > E kathrin.schweppe at sap.com > http://www.sap.com > Sitz der Gesellschaft/Registered Office: Walldorf, Germany > Vorstand/SAP Executive Board: Bill McDermot (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Jim Hagemann Snabe (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Werner Brandt, Gerhard Oswald, Vishal Sikka > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats/Chairperson of the SAP Supervisory Board: Hasso Plattner > Registergericht/Commercial Register Mannheim No HRB 350269 > > Diese e-mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse, dem Anwaltsgeheimnis unterliegende oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese e-mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der e-mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene e-mail. Vielen Dank. > Prepared by a member of SAP Global Legal. This message and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, private or protected by the attorney-client or other privilege. If you have received this email in error, please delete this message without further copying or distribution and promptly notify me. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suzanne Erez [mailto:SUZANNE at il.ibm.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012 14:57 > To: Juanjo Hierro > Cc: Alex Glikson; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; LUIS GARCIA GARCIA; Schweppe, Kathrin > Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models > > Juanjo, > > Thank you for your note and for the explanation. It was helpful to > understand what your purpose is. > > There are two parts to the license - 1) the copyright statement and 2) the > license terms. > > The first part "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners unless > specified otherwise" while with the right intention, is not legally > binding on anything or anyone. The term" FI-WARE Project partners" is not > defined in any legally binding document. Additionally, it is according to > the CA and the GA that each Part is to write Copyright ? 2012 by NAME OF PERSON WRITING THE SPEC>. Anything other than that is not in line > with the GA or CA. > > II.26. Ownership > 1. Foreground shall be the property of the beneficiary carrying out the > work generating that foreground. > > As to the second part, while the language may be acceptable, it is only > suggested that each party review it with their own legal department. As an > example, IBM has many standard licenses that we use for many purposes. We > will review this license, and decide to adopt it or a similar IBM one. > > I can not thank you enough, or express our appreciation for all the hard > work you have done as coordinator. thank you! > > Suzanne > > Suzanne Erez > Counsel, IPLaw, Israel > Associate PPM, PPM 150, 160 > IBM Haifa, Israel suzanne at il.ibm.com > Tel: 972-4-829-6069 Fax: 972-4-829-6521 > > "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and > looks like work" -- Thomas Edison, American inventor > > PREPARED BY IBM ATTORNEY / PRIVILEGE REVIEW REQUIRED This e-mail and its > attachments, if any, may contain information that is private, confidential, > or protected by attorney-client, solicitor-client or other privilege. If > you received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your system > without copying it and notify me of the misdirection by reply e-mail. > > > > From: Juanjo Hierro > To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, > Cc: "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" > , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" > , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" > , Suzanne Erez/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, > LUIS GARCIA GARCIA, "jhierro>> \"Juan J. Hierro > \"" > Date: 21/05/2012 09:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models > > > > > On 21/05/12 23:21, Alex Glikson wrote: > Dear Juanjo, all, > > Our legal department says there is no legal entity known as FIWARE > Project Parties. So FIWARE Project Parties can not be the owners of > anything, and can not be copyright owners either. > Well ... the trick here was that "FI-WARE Project Partners" on the wiki > is a link to the wiki page where project partners are listed ... so we > thought was a kind of abbreviation of the whole list of partners ... > > BTW, I have replaced any ocurrence of the "FI-WARE partner" in the legal > notice by "FI-WARE Project Partners" with the link to the wiki page listing > the FI-WARE Project Partners for consistency. > > It also says in the CA and the GA, that the party that creates the > Foreground is the owner of the Foreground. > > Nothing is said in the published FI-WARE Legal Notice about ownership. > The legal notice covers license to use which is different. What the legal > notices says in that respect is, essentially, that the specs are public and > royalty-free, therefore anyone can build products based on them, that the > FI-WARE partners are not responsible for identifying infringed patents, and > that the FI-WARE partners are not liable for errors in the specifications. > It doesn't say anything about ownership, so therefore any agreement between > FI-WARE partners about such ownerships (i.e., whatever is stated in the > CA/GA regarding ownership, prevails). Note that ownership doesn't equal > to license to use which is what we have tried to regulate here according to > the CA/GA. > > > While IBM supports making the specifications public, as per the DOW, > the DOW does not say we need to also give away ownership to what we > wrote. > > I don't see what are we giving away about ownership with the current > legal notice either. > > If you would like to write on your material "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE > Project partners" that is your decision. But we believe that each > Party should be able to decide if they want to retain ownership of > their own material. > > That's why I proposed to change the sentence to say "Copyright ? 2012 by > FI-WARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners > unless specified otherwise" (FI-WARE project partners being a link), and > then you can negotiate the copyright that should come with whatever spec > has been produced within your chapter with the contributing parties. > > Do you object to that formula ? Indeed I believe it covers your > demands ... since you will be able to specify a different copyright > statement (but not license to use) on what you consider your material. > > Note that, regarding copyright, we just tried to avoid going public > without any sort of copyright. Now you can fix it if we introduce the > proposed change. Regarding the rest of the Legal Notice, we are just > defining the license to use specifications, in line with what the CA/GA > states. We don't say anything about ownership, so the CA/GA prevails. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > Regards, > Alex > > ==================================================================================================== > > Alex Glikson > Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab > http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | > https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml > Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: > +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 > > > > > From: "Fasse, Axel" > To: Juanjo Hierro, > Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" > , > "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" > , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" > > Date: 21/05/2012 05:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Fiware-wpa] Licence models > Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > > Dear Juanjo, > > I?m already in discussions with our colleagues from the legal > department. > You will get a feedback as soon as possible. > > Best regards, > Axel > > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:37 > To: Fasse, Axel > Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE > JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; > fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models > > > Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change > "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 > FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone > objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. > > Thanks and best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: > Dear Juanjo, > > you don?t have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. > I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all > partners. > > Best regards, > Axel > > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 > To: Fasse, Axel > Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE > JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; > fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models > > > On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Dear Axel, > > Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the > sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current > FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright > ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and > then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given > specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page > linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their > opinion is written down. > > Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a > given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at > least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., > Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > Would that work for you ? > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: > Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, > > we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License > you have supplied us. However, we agree with IBM, that the License is > not based upon the CA because the copyright of the Generic Enabler > Specification and the Generic Enabler, esp. the Code, is owned by the > party who generated the Generic Enabler Specification and the Generic > Enabler. > We agree further with IBM, that each party is free to choose a > license of its choice under which the release to the public can > happen. > > Best regards, > > Axel Fasse > > > --------------------------- > > Axel Fasse > Senior Researcher > SAP Research Karlsruhe > > SAP AG > Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 > 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany > > T +49 6227 7-52528 > F +49 6227 78-55237 > M +4915153858917 > E axel.fasse at sap.com > > www.sap.com > > Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: > http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx > > Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige > vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. 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We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx _______________________________________________ Fiware-legal mailing list Fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-legal From jhierro at tid.es Tue May 22 17:27:00 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 17:27:00 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Fwd: Re: [Fiware-legal] FW: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models In-Reply-To: <4FBBAC6B.3080302@tid.es> References: <4FBBAC6B.3080302@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FBBB044.6050300@tid.es> FYI, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Fiware-legal] FW: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 17:10:35 +0200 From: Juanjo Hierro To: fiware-legal at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear colleagues of legal departments, Going for a different legal notice, regarding the license to use GE Open Specifications, for each and every GE Open Specification will IMHO totally JEOPARDIZE the chances to achieve the expected impact with a project like FI-WARE. It will introduce a lot of confussion on potential users of the spec. Should they have to learn and analyze each and every license to use terms when, at the end of the day, they should end supporting the same CA clauses regarding public and royalty-free nature of specifications ? No single organization trying to achieve the goal of producing a uniform set of specifications (and I remind you that we are trying to develop here one) does anything like that. People would simply dismiss our potential contribution. The discussion about ownership of foreground, by the way, does not have anything to do with this discussion on how license the use of that foreground. The CA/GA is clear stating that foreground that is a FI-WARE GE implementation is licensed under the terms that the owner of that GE implementation determines (though has to be offered free of charge with the FI-PPP program and following FRAND terms otherwise). However, it is also clear stating that foreground that is a FI-WARE GE Open Specification has to be licensed royalty-free, allowing any party to develop implementations in compliance with the spec. There is therefore no reason why we cannot find a single common license for using FI-WARE GE Open Specifications. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 22/05/12 16:41, Schweppe, Kathrin wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > please find below some discussions about the License, Telefonica proposed on Thursday for the Generic Enabler Specifications. I assume, it is beneficial for all partners to consider IBMs proposal. > > SAP supports IBM's point of view. > > Best regards, > Kathrin > > Kathrin Schweppe, LL.M. > Legal Counsel > Global Legal > SAP AG > Dietmar-Hopp-Allee 16 > 69190 Walldorf, Germany > T +49 6227 7-64369 > F +49 6227 78-54177 > E kathrin.schweppe at sap.com > http://www.sap.com > Sitz der Gesellschaft/Registered Office: Walldorf, Germany > Vorstand/SAP Executive Board: Bill McDermot (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Jim Hagemann Snabe (Sprecher/Co-CEO), Werner Brandt, Gerhard Oswald, Vishal Sikka > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats/Chairperson of the SAP Supervisory Board: Hasso Plattner > Registergericht/Commercial Register Mannheim No HRB 350269 > > Diese e-mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse, dem Anwaltsgeheimnis unterliegende oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese e-mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der e-mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene e-mail. Vielen Dank. > Prepared by a member of SAP Global Legal. This message and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, private or protected by the attorney-client or other privilege. If you have received this email in error, please delete this message without further copying or distribution and promptly notify me. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Suzanne Erez [mailto:SUZANNE at il.ibm.com] > Sent: Dienstag, 22. Mai 2012 14:57 > To: Juanjo Hierro > Cc: Alex Glikson; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; LUIS GARCIA GARCIA; Schweppe, Kathrin > Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models > > Juanjo, > > Thank you for your note and for the explanation. It was helpful to > understand what your purpose is. > > There are two parts to the license - 1) the copyright statement and 2) the > license terms. > > The first part "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners unless > specified otherwise" while with the right intention, is not legally > binding on anything or anyone. The term" FI-WARE Project partners" is not > defined in any legally binding document. Additionally, it is according to > the CA and the GA that each Part is to write Copyright ? 2012 by NAME OF PERSON WRITING THE SPEC>. Anything other than that is not in line > with the GA or CA. > > II.26. Ownership > 1. Foreground shall be the property of the beneficiary carrying out the > work generating that foreground. > > As to the second part, while the language may be acceptable, it is only > suggested that each party review it with their own legal department. As an > example, IBM has many standard licenses that we use for many purposes. We > will review this license, and decide to adopt it or a similar IBM one. > > I can not thank you enough, or express our appreciation for all the hard > work you have done as coordinator. thank you! > > Suzanne > > Suzanne Erez > Counsel, IPLaw, Israel > Associate PPM, PPM 150, 160 > IBM Haifa, Israel suzanne at il.ibm.com > Tel: 972-4-829-6069 Fax: 972-4-829-6521 > > "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and > looks like work" -- Thomas Edison, American inventor > > PREPARED BY IBM ATTORNEY / PRIVILEGE REVIEW REQUIRED This e-mail and its > attachments, if any, may contain information that is private, confidential, > or protected by attorney-client, solicitor-client or other privilege. If > you received this e-mail in error, please delete it from your system > without copying it and notify me of the misdirection by reply e-mail. > > > > From: Juanjo Hierro > To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, > Cc: "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" > , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" > , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" > , Suzanne Erez/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, > LUIS GARCIA GARCIA, "jhierro>> \"Juan J. Hierro > \"" > Date: 21/05/2012 09:22 PM > Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-wpl] Licence models > > > > > On 21/05/12 23:21, Alex Glikson wrote: > Dear Juanjo, all, > > Our legal department says there is no legal entity known as FIWARE > Project Parties. So FIWARE Project Parties can not be the owners of > anything, and can not be copyright owners either. > Well ... the trick here was that "FI-WARE Project Partners" on the wiki > is a link to the wiki page where project partners are listed ... so we > thought was a kind of abbreviation of the whole list of partners ... > > BTW, I have replaced any ocurrence of the "FI-WARE partner" in the legal > notice by "FI-WARE Project Partners" with the link to the wiki page listing > the FI-WARE Project Partners for consistency. > > It also says in the CA and the GA, that the party that creates the > Foreground is the owner of the Foreground. > > Nothing is said in the published FI-WARE Legal Notice about ownership. > The legal notice covers license to use which is different. What the legal > notices says in that respect is, essentially, that the specs are public and > royalty-free, therefore anyone can build products based on them, that the > FI-WARE partners are not responsible for identifying infringed patents, and > that the FI-WARE partners are not liable for errors in the specifications. > It doesn't say anything about ownership, so therefore any agreement between > FI-WARE partners about such ownerships (i.e., whatever is stated in the > CA/GA regarding ownership, prevails). Note that ownership doesn't equal > to license to use which is what we have tried to regulate here according to > the CA/GA. > > > While IBM supports making the specifications public, as per the DOW, > the DOW does not say we need to also give away ownership to what we > wrote. > > I don't see what are we giving away about ownership with the current > legal notice either. > > If you would like to write on your material "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE > Project partners" that is your decision. But we believe that each > Party should be able to decide if they want to retain ownership of > their own material. > > That's why I proposed to change the sentence to say "Copyright ? 2012 by > FI-WARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 by FI-WARE Project partners > unless specified otherwise" (FI-WARE project partners being a link), and > then you can negotiate the copyright that should come with whatever spec > has been produced within your chapter with the contributing parties. > > Do you object to that formula ? Indeed I believe it covers your > demands ... since you will be able to specify a different copyright > statement (but not license to use) on what you consider your material. > > Note that, regarding copyright, we just tried to avoid going public > without any sort of copyright. Now you can fix it if we introduce the > proposed change. Regarding the rest of the Legal Notice, we are just > defining the license to use specifications, in line with what the CA/GA > states. We don't say anything about ownership, so the CA/GA prevails. > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > Regards, > Alex > > ==================================================================================================== > > Alex Glikson > Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab > http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | > https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml > Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: > +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 > > > > > From: "Fasse, Axel" > To: Juanjo Hierro, > Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" > , > "'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu)" > , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" > > Date: 21/05/2012 05:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Fiware-wpa] Licence models > Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu > > > > Dear Juanjo, > > I?m already in discussions with our colleagues from the legal > department. > You will get a feedback as soon as possible. > > Best regards, > Axel > > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:37 > To: Fasse, Axel > Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE > JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; > fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models > > > Ok. Given your support, I will go for the proposed option (change > "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" by "Copyright ? 2012 > FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise") unless anyone > objects before Wednesday 12:00 CET. > > Thanks and best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 21/05/12 16:22, Fasse, Axel wrote: > Dear Juanjo, > > you don?t have to convince me about a pragmatic approach. > I think it is necessary to find a solution that is supported by all > partners. > > Best regards, > Axel > > From: Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] > Sent: Montag, 21. Mai 2012 16:12 > To: Fasse, Axel > Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu); JOSE > JIMENEZ DELGADO; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; > fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] Licence models > > > On 21/05/12 16:09, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Dear Axel, > > Trying to be pragmatic, one suggestion is that we change the > sentence "Copyright ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners" in the current > FI-WARE Open Specifications Legal Notice changes to become "Copyright > ? 2012 FIWARE Project partners unless specified otherwise" ... and > then allow those companies that believe they "own" a given > specification to create a section at the beginning of the wiki page > linked to their spec where the proper copyright notice in their > opinion is written down. > > Of course, those companies that believe that the copyright of a > given specification only belongs to them should justify it and get at > least the agreement of at least partners of the same Chapter (e.g., > Security Chapter) or joint Task Force (e.g., FI-WARE NGSI) > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > Would that work for you ? > > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website: www.tid.es > email: jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website: http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > On 21/05/12 15:18, Fasse, Axel wrote: > Dear Juanjo, Dear Jose, > > we appreciate the work you and your legal team spend on the License > you have supplied us. 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Tuesday-Wednesday next week, there is a meeting of the FI-PPP Architecture Board which presents a rather good opportunity to push those actions we may identify at FI-PPP level, i.e., require commitment from the UC projects. In order to find out a slot that may be suitable for all of us, I have setup the following doodle poll. Please cast your vote asap. Based on casted votes, I will send a call this evening: http://www.doodle.com/85h5p6ca6fc5qbb3 Following this email, I will send an email sharing my first thoughts on some action points we should implement. Off-line discussion before our confcall this Friday would allow to make it more productive. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Wed May 23 16:12:53 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 16:12:53 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] R: [Fiware-wpl] VERY IMPORTANT: Joint WPL/WPA follow-up confcall this friday - Actions from educational session week In-Reply-To: <4FBCB61A.9060406@tid.es> References: <4FBCB61A.9060406@tid.es> Message-ID: Hi Juanjo, unfortunately Friday I'm off the whole day, however to contribute to the discussion, I report in this mail my first impressions from the educational week, at least concerning the I2ND perspective (Hans might add his one to have a further opinion): - Attendance by UCPs to FI-WARE I2ND sessions: extremely poor! By looking at the participant lists, we expected to have about 8 people attending, we had a max of 3 people the second day, while the first one we had 2. We were 6 people from I2ND chapter, so if we were there just for this giving our presentations, it was not worth the travel costs and commitment! It's better we ask again to UCPs the actual commitment, if we discover no attendance for some GE presentation, we could drop them next time to save travel budget for some of us. - A preliminary feedback from the audience (statistics not very wide... 3!) told us that our presentations were useful to better understand the GE functionalities, what we are targeting (including constraints), and how they could be adopted to fulfill their needs. Some uncertainty on the capability to exploit in their projects those GEs not present in first FI-WARE release, i.e. nearly all: CDI, NEtIC, S3C. Officially they can't, as all the UCPs will end next year right before we deliver these GEs. - Presentations by UCP projects: I had the opportunity to follow only first presentation (OUTSMART) and partially FINSENY. I believe this is worth to have, as there can be good inputs from them on what are their challenges and how they define their architecture, although a better involvement of FI-WARE GEs would be expected. Would this mean that it is not so easy for them to understand the functionality offered, and the description we made, of GEs? Or didn't they dedicate enough time to understand them and possibly ask more detailed questions? For sure, it seems that relying only on requirements tickets, the circulation of information was probably not as much effective as expected. - One additional practical feedback received from audience: it is suggested to provide the presentation slides prior to the educ week, so they could start having a look at them to better elaborate questions later. I would suggest to give them the slides just before the presentation (max one day in advance), otherwise some contents might be misleading to their eyes, and they could start elaborating too many non-relevant questions that would not be generated during the presentation ;-) Besides my last sentence, I have understood talking to Carlos that we're going to provide the slides in these days, which means the second week attendants will have plenty of time to access them in advance. - Finally, a comment on sessions recording: I'm not aware if in other chapters this was possible (was it?), but recording the presentations for us was not done because we didn't have the required tools installed this time. I also consider it not strictly necessary, I would rather prefer that we record on purpose a presentation with some screen recording tool (like CamStudio), so that the speaker is sitting in front of the PC, can interact on the screen with the slides, and voice recording would be better than during a presentation in the room. BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: mercoled? 23 maggio 2012 12:04 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: [Fiware-wpl] VERY IMPORTANT: Joint WPL/WPA follow-up confcall this friday - Actions from educational session week Hi all, I believe it is rather important to have a confcall dedicated to agree on some action points that we have to push not only on our side but also FI-PPP level, derived from the experience of this first Educational Session with UC projects. Tuesday-Wednesday next week, there is a meeting of the FI-PPP Architecture Board which presents a rather good opportunity to push those actions we may identify at FI-PPP level, i.e., require commitment from the UC projects. In order to find out a slot that may be suitable for all of us, I have setup the following doodle poll. Please cast your vote asap. Based on casted votes, I will send a call this evening: http://www.doodle.com/85h5p6ca6fc5qbb3 Following this email, I will send an email sharing my first thoughts on some action points we should implement. Off-line discussion before our confcall this Friday would allow to make it more productive. 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Focus will be: * Impressions regarding the Educational Week * Concrete action points to propose during the next FI-PPP AB meeting (next week, May 29-30) Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Regarding Architecture Design of their solutions, some of them are still in a very high-level. * There are some cases where it is clear that the FI-WARE GEs nicely fit in the proposed Architecture. This was rather clear in InstantMobility and Oustmart (though the described architecture was rather high-level). Also in Finseny to some extend * The educational session have been useful to improve the understanding by attendees from UC projects. Now they realize that there is concrete stuff to analyze. * There is a common agreement that the communication hasn't been very much productive so far because there was no real stuff to discuss about from neither of the two sides: * FI-WARE hadn't produce the Architecture Description nor the Open Specifications so therefore UC projects could not refine very much their requests on features to be supported by FI-WARE GEs * UC projects hadn't produce Architecture Deliverables we could inspect to point out areas where mapping between enablers identified by UC projects and FI-WARE GEs have to be investigated * now, we have this stuff in both side so that is the time to push from both sides * Some UC projects claimed that some sessions run parallel so they couldn't attend both. Don't know whether we can find a solution for this. * More attendance on those sessions linked to FI-WARE GEs that provide APIs that UC programmers have to use (Apps, IoT, Data/Context and Security chapters) Then, the actions I believe we have to carry out and propose: * Action-1: We have to officially ask all UC projects to share any documentation they may have regarding their Architecture, and do it inmediately. * Action-2: We have to document and be able to monitor progress of our communication, so using a tracker system is still the right thing to do. However, we have to decide which one (or define a new one). My proposal would be not to use the "FI-WARE Theme/Epic/Feature Requests" but the "FI-WARE General Support" tracker because it will more agile. Use of the tracker would be bidirectional, so that we can open tickets on UC projects. * Action-3: Each FI-WARE chapter should carefully study the Architecture documentation by UC projects (available after Action-1) to find the places where they believe there is an opportunity of using FI-WARE GEs that should be explored, then open the proper tickets on the UC projects to launch the discussion. Note that discussion doesn't need then to be carried out always off-line. Chapters should be ready to setup confcalls, f2f meetings, whatever when necessary. * Action-4: We will re-inforce the role of the dedicated team (in this case, Carlos and Axel) that has to push Action-3 first, and then follow-up progress and push communication afterwards. Creation of a dashboard that allows us to monitor progress will be key. * Action-5: Communication between the UC projects and the FI-WARE chapters may lead to the need to support new features in existing FI-WARE GEs, define new FI-WARE GEs, etc. These case should lead to creation of a ticket in the "FI-WARE Theme/Epic/Feature Requests" backlog but, this time, the description of what is required will be much more concrete and well understood from both sides Last but not least, some reflections regarding usage of the tracker: * I don't know if you agree, but the presentation by people from InstantMobility was probably the best one from the UC projects, among other things because you could see this guy was a rather technical person. After the meeting, I had the opportunity to talk with him and he told me that he though that a tracker was what programmers like to use and only people who deals with paperwork hate them. I tend to agree. It is not the tracker what may fail but the people who is around who has to commit in doing the work * We need to document things for the reviews, like it or not. The tracker will allow us to do this without problems. * We need to be able to monitor progress in order to detect when things are malfunctioning and put remedy actions. You need something like a tracker to do that as well. * Even most important than the previous: we should not forget that FI-WARE will be extended so that may app developers will try to use it after year 2. And there, on-line communication is not going to scale (despite we may organize events like the "Programmers' Days" and stuff like that). We have to formalize a process and accompany them with toos, using phase 1 and first part of Phase 2 of the FI-PPP to test them (taking advantage there will be a limited number of projects then) Your own feedback/comment is welcome. -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matteo.melideo at eng.it Thu May 24 17:39:28 2012 From: matteo.melideo at eng.it (Matteo Melideo) Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 17:39:28 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Thoughts and proposed action points from Educational Session Week In-Reply-To: <4FBE456F.3040300@tid.es> References: <4FBE456F.3040300@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FBE5630.5050102@eng.it> Dear Juanjo, unfortunately I was not able to participate but my colleague Davide updated me daily about the Educational Sessions. I was only wondering if, provided an available solution, it could make sense to organize Webinars instead of this long weeks very difficult to organize, where not all the expected people participate (very few representatives from the UC projects according to the registrations) and for someone also extremely expensive. Sorry if someone already raised this proposal and I missed it. Some other comments in lined hoping can be useful ... Regards Matteo Il 24/05/2012 16:27, Juanjo Hierro ha scritto: > Hi all, > > These are my first thoughts and proposed action points based on > experience during this educational sessions week, as an input to our > confcall tomorrow. > > First my impressions: > > * UC projects exhibit different level of progress. Regarding > Architecture Design of their solutions, some of them are still in > a very high-level. > * There are some cases where it is clear that the FI-WARE GEs nicely > fit in the proposed Architecture. This was rather clear in > InstantMobility and Oustmart (though the described architecture > was rather high-level). Also in Finseny to some extend > * The educational session have been useful to improve the > understanding by attendees from UC projects. Now they realize > that there is concrete stuff to analyze. > * There is a common agreement that the communication hasn't been > very much productive so far because there was no real stuff to > discuss about from neither of the two sides: > o FI-WARE hadn't produce the Architecture Description nor the > Open Specifications so therefore UC projects could not refine > very much their requests on features to be supported by > FI-WARE GEs > o UC projects hadn't produce Architecture Deliverables we could > inspect to point out areas where mapping between enablers > identified by UC projects and FI-WARE GEs have to be investigated > o now, we have this stuff in both side so that is the time to > push from both sides > * Some UC projects claimed that some sessions run parallel so they > couldn't attend both. Don't know whether we can find a solution > for this. > The easiest solution is that the UC projects representatives participate with more people. According to the registrations the higher number of participants was 7 from Finseny while the others where 3 to 1. Mmmm > > * More attendance on those sessions linked to FI-WARE GEs that > provide APIs that UC programmers have to use (Apps, IoT, > Data/Context and Security chapters) > This is not good as I think that as they do not have a clear idea of what FI-WARE is doing probably at least once they should participate to all the Chapters at least to have an idea. Probably new ideas could come to their minds. > > > Then, the actions I believe we have to carry out and propose: > > * Action-1: We have to officially ask all UC projects to share any > documentation they may have regarding their Architecture, and do > it inmediately. > I agree > > * > > > * Action-2: We have to document and be able to monitor progress of > our communication, so using a tracker system is still the right > thing to do. However, we have to decide which one (or define a > new one). My proposal would be not to use the "FI-WARE > Theme/Epic/Feature Requests" but the "FI-WARE General Support" > tracker because it will more agile. Use of the tracker would be > bidirectional, so that we can open tickets on UC projects. > The tracker is ok but I think that have monthly webinars or conference call could be much more effective!!! > > * Action-3: Each FI-WARE chapter should carefully study the > Architecture documentation by UC projects (available after > Action-1) to find the places where they believe there is an > opportunity of using FI-WARE GEs that should be explored, then > open the proper tickets on the UC projects to launch the > discussion. Note that discussion doesn't need then to be carried > out always off-line. Chapters should be ready to setup > confcalls, f2f meetings, whatever when necessary. > * Action-4: We will re-inforce the role of the dedicated team (in > this case, Carlos and Axel) that has to push Action-3 first, and > then follow-up progress and push communication afterwards. > Creation of a dashboard that allows us to monitor progress will be > key. > * Action-5: Communication between the UC projects and the FI-WARE > chapters may lead to the need to support new features in existing > FI-WARE GEs, define new FI-WARE GEs, etc. These case should lead > to creation of a ticket in the "FI-WARE Theme/Epic/Feature > Requests" backlog but, this time, the description of what is > required will be much more concrete and well understood from both > sides > I agree!!! > > > Last but not least, some reflections regarding usage of the tracker: > > * I don't know if you agree, but the presentation by people from > InstantMobility was probably the best one from the UC projects, > among other things because you could see this guy was a rather > technical person. After the meeting, I had the opportunity to > talk with him and he told me that he though that a tracker was > what programmers like to use and only people who deals with > paperwork hate them. I tend to agree. It is not the tracker > what may fail but the people who is around who has to commit in > doing the work > This problem is somehow related to the Action-2 above and I think it is not a matter of hating the tracker but additional work required to use it properly. > > * We need to document things for the reviews, like it or not. The > tracker will allow us to do this without problems. > I agree on this but in many cases the tracker is also used to reports about bits and bytes at very low level. I was wondering what a reviewer or a person not deeply and directly involved on this can understand? > > * We need to be able to monitor progress in order to detect when > things are malfunctioning and put remedy actions. You need > something like a tracker to do that as well. > Could you clarify how can you see if something is "malfunctioning"? > > * Even most important than the previous: we should not forget that > FI-WARE will be extended so that may app developers will try to > use it after year 2. And there, on-line communication is not > going to scale (despite we may organize events like the > "Programmers' Days" and stuff like that). We have to formalize a > process and accompany them with toos, using phase 1 and first part > of Phase 2 of the FI-PPP to test them (taking advantage there will > be a limited number of projects then) > > > Your own feedback/comment is welcome. > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website:www.tid.es > email:jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website:http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it Fri May 25 11:08:27 2012 From: davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it (Davide Dalle Carbonare) Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 11:08:27 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] Thoughts and proposed action points from Educational Session Week In-Reply-To: <4FBE456F.3040300@tid.es> References: <4FBE456F.3040300@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FBF4C0B.2000402@eng.it> Dear Juanjo, that just say that I agree with your impressions as we already had time to share them ... I agree also with the actions you proposed especially for collecting information from the UC projects. cheers, Davide On 24/05/2012 16:27, Juanjo Hierro wrote: > Hi all, > > These are my first thoughts and proposed action points based on > experience during this educational sessions week, as an input to our > confcall tomorrow. > > First my impressions: > > * UC projects exhibit different level of progress. Regarding > Architecture Design of their solutions, some of them are still in > a very high-level. > * There are some cases where it is clear that the FI-WARE GEs nicely > fit in the proposed Architecture. This was rather clear in > InstantMobility and Oustmart (though the described architecture > was rather high-level). Also in Finseny to some extend > * The educational session have been useful to improve the > understanding by attendees from UC projects. Now they realize > that there is concrete stuff to analyze. > * There is a common agreement that the communication hasn't been > very much productive so far because there was no real stuff to > discuss about from neither of the two sides: > o FI-WARE hadn't produce the Architecture Description nor the > Open Specifications so therefore UC projects could not refine > very much their requests on features to be supported by > FI-WARE GEs > o UC projects hadn't produce Architecture Deliverables we could > inspect to point out areas where mapping between enablers > identified by UC projects and FI-WARE GEs have to be investigated > o now, we have this stuff in both side so that is the time to > push from both sides > * Some UC projects claimed that some sessions run parallel so they > couldn't attend both. Don't know whether we can find a solution > for this. > * More attendance on those sessions linked to FI-WARE GEs that > provide APIs that UC programmers have to use (Apps, IoT, > Data/Context and Security chapters) > > > Then, the actions I believe we have to carry out and propose: > > * Action-1: We have to officially ask all UC projects to share any > documentation they may have regarding their Architecture, and do > it inmediately. > * Action-2: We have to document and be able to monitor progress of > our communication, so using a tracker system is still the right > thing to do. However, we have to decide which one (or define a > new one). My proposal would be not to use the "FI-WARE > Theme/Epic/Feature Requests" but the "FI-WARE General Support" > tracker because it will more agile. Use of the tracker would be > bidirectional, so that we can open tickets on UC projects. > * Action-3: Each FI-WARE chapter should carefully study the > Architecture documentation by UC projects (available after > Action-1) to find the places where they believe there is an > opportunity of using FI-WARE GEs that should be explored, then > open the proper tickets on the UC projects to launch the > discussion. Note that discussion doesn't need then to be carried > out always off-line. Chapters should be ready to setup > confcalls, f2f meetings, whatever when necessary. > * Action-4: We will re-inforce the role of the dedicated team (in > this case, Carlos and Axel) that has to push Action-3 first, and > then follow-up progress and push communication afterwards. > Creation of a dashboard that allows us to monitor progress will be > key. > * Action-5: Communication between the UC projects and the FI-WARE > chapters may lead to the need to support new features in existing > FI-WARE GEs, define new FI-WARE GEs, etc. These case should lead > to creation of a ticket in the "FI-WARE Theme/Epic/Feature > Requests" backlog but, this time, the description of what is > required will be much more concrete and well understood from both > sides > > > Last but not least, some reflections regarding usage of the tracker: > > * I don't know if you agree, but the presentation by people from > InstantMobility was probably the best one from the UC projects, > among other things because you could see this guy was a rather > technical person. After the meeting, I had the opportunity to > talk with him and he told me that he though that a tracker was > what programmers like to use and only people who deals with > paperwork hate them. I tend to agree. It is not the tracker > what may fail but the people who is around who has to commit in > doing the work > * We need to document things for the reviews, like it or not. The > tracker will allow us to do this without problems. > * We need to be able to monitor progress in order to detect when > things are malfunctioning and put remedy actions. You need > something like a tracker to do that as well. > * Even most important than the previous: we should not forget that > FI-WARE will be extended so that may app developers will try to > use it after year 2. And there, on-line communication is not > going to scale (despite we may organize events like the > "Programmers' Days" and stuff like that). We have to formalize a > process and accompany them with toos, using phase 1 and first part > of Phase 2 of the FI-PPP to test them (taking advantage there will > be a limited number of projects then) > > > Your own feedback/comment is welcome. > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website:www.tid.es > email:jhierro at tid.es > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website:http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede > consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico > en el enlace situado m?s abajo. > This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send > and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. > http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wpl mailing list > Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ralli at tid.es Mon May 28 17:50:06 2012 From: ralli at tid.es (CARLOS RALLI UCENDO) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 17:50:06 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Please, DO upload Zurich Presentations ASAP (Thanks) Message-ID: <515E4DAE-19F4-4DF2-B231-054548D0BCBC@tid.es> Dear Colleagues, I have already uploaded the presentations you sent me last week. They are available at: http://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FI-PPP_Software_Architects_Week_Presentations_and_References#FI-WARE_TOOLS Can you please upload your sessions' documents in the right placeholder (FI-WARE project docman, 'Architects weeks materials') and link them later on in the correspondent Wiki section? So far, Only IoT, DATA and Tools have uploaded their documents. UCs are requesting this info and they have already provided all theirs with the exception of Instant Mobility. Thanks for your cooperation. 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We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 28 23:34:41 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:34:41 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Detailed instructions on how to generate the Unit Testing Plan deliverable for a FI-WARE GE Message-ID: <4FC3EF71.6010100@tid.es> Dear all, As you know, a Unit Testing Plan deliverable has to be produced for each of the GEs to be released as part of the first FI-WARE Release. Note that this Unit Testing Plan has nothing to do with the Integration Testing Plan which has been asked by the Testbed Chapter team. The approach proposed to tackle this deliverable was initially shared in April 10th, and was approved after the integration of some of the compiled comments during the joint WPLs/WPAs confcall that took place in May 7th. Here, we will try to elaborate on the details about how to generate this deliverable per GE on the public wiki. The very first step will be extend the set of Features listed for each GE within the corresponding section of the "Materializing the FI-WARE Vision" part of the public wiki. As per now, each GE was supposed to have already a number of Features, Epics and User-Stories listed on the "Materializing the FI-WARE Vision" part of the wiki. However, listed Features were supposed to only map to new features to be incorporated in the baseline assets for the first FI-WARE Release (i.e., features that required some sort of development on the baseline asset). Now, we will extend these list of Features so that the whole list of Features provide a comprehensive and complete description of the set of features that will be supported by the GE in the first FI-WARE Release. Note that with this first step, we hope that we will be able to address some of the comments made by reviewers on the "FI-WARE Technical Roadmap" deliverable, arguing that the information provided in that deliverable was too abstract (see [1]). Making this first step, we will be able to add a link to the set of features to be supported by each FI-WARE GE from the "FI-WARE Technical Roadmap" deliverable. This way, the argument about lack of concreteness should fly away. Once we have completed the set of Features for a given GE and listed them within the corresponding section inside the "Materializing the FI-WARE Vision" part of the wiki, we will create a last section, right after the section listing the User-Stories, that will be titled "Unit Testing Plan" and will contain a link to a wiki page describing the Unit Testing Plan that will be applied to the GE. This wiki page will be titled " - Unit Testing Plan" and will be structured into one section titled "Information Common to all tests" and then several sections, each linked to a Unit Test. Each Unit Test, will contain: * a subsection titled "Tested Features" which contains a list of links to the wiki pages describing the Features that are tested through the Unit Test * a subsection titled "Test description" which contains detailed information about: * what client programs and (potentially) data sets will be used to run the test * how to run the test: * this should be detailed enough to allow an administrator/operator of a FI-WARE Instance to test if the GE is working properly * dependencies on third party libraries or software should be specified * expected results to be obtained by running the client programs with the referred data set * (note: it would be highly recommended to define a maven project which would be used to run the test and where all dependencies are specified Note that a separate Unit Test may be defined per tested Feature. However, this is not mandatory so a given Unit Test may be used to test several features. What is important is that the Test description provides the information that is needed to run the tests, not only by the developer of the GE but also by any party (e.g., an administrator/operator of a FI-WARE Instance containing that GE) who decides to use the Unit Testing Plan to verify that the GE is working properly in a given FI-WARE Instance setup. A link to the corresponding section in the Unit Testing Plan document at the wiki will be included in a "how-to-test" field of the corresponding backlog entry. We will soon inform you whether this field will be created in the template linked to Features descriptions in the public Wiki or in the ticket at the tracker that corresponds to the Feature. We couldn't provide a reference example of the formula described above because the wiki was down, but we hope to provide it along this week. Nevertheless, don't hesitate to make any question or complement this proposal. Your input is more than welcome. Please, share these instructions with members of your respective teams. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jhierro at tid.es Mon May 28 23:43:49 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 23:43:49 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Detailed instructions on how to generate the Unit Testing Plan deliverable for a FI-WARE GE In-Reply-To: <4FC3EF71.6010100@tid.es> References: <4FC3EF71.6010100@tid.es> Message-ID: <4FC3F195.2060405@tid.es> Hi, I miss the references to the comments from the reviewers in my last email: [1] - Comments from reviewers: * The vague description of functionalities (such as "Extended support for network context data management and resource management") will not allow the Use Case projects to understand the FI-WARE propositions correctly, might lead to wrong expectations and might create further difficulties in the collaboration * Listing feature deliverables as a set of abilities is also unacceptable. The roadmap should instead indicate the delivery schedule for precise Generic Enablers, which should then be described in terms of the abilities they will provide. By making a link to the appropriate chapter within "Materializing the FI-WARE Vision" from each of the chapter sections within the Technical Roadmap deliverable, these comments by the reviewers would be addressed. Actually, nobody would be able to keep these complains because because the list of Features that will be supported by each of our FI-WARE GEs would be detailed. Cheers, -- Juanjo On 28/05/12 23:34, Juanjo Hierro wrote: Dear all, As you know, a Unit Testing Plan deliverable has to be produced for each of the GEs to be released as part of the first FI-WARE Release. Note that this Unit Testing Plan has nothing to do with the Integration Testing Plan which has been asked by the Testbed Chapter team. The approach proposed to tackle this deliverable was initially shared in April 10th, and was approved after the integration of some of the compiled comments during the joint WPLs/WPAs confcall that took place in May 7th. Here, we will try to elaborate on the details about how to generate this deliverable per GE on the public wiki. The very first step will be extend the set of Features listed for each GE within the corresponding section of the "Materializing the FI-WARE Vision" part of the public wiki. As per now, each GE was supposed to have already a number of Features, Epics and User-Stories listed on the "Materializing the FI-WARE Vision" part of the wiki. However, listed Features were supposed to only map to new features to be incorporated in the baseline assets for the first FI-WARE Release (i.e., features that required some sort of development on the baseline asset). Now, we will extend these list of Features so that the whole list of Features provide a comprehensive and complete description of the set of features that will be supported by the GE in the first FI-WARE Release. Note that with this first step, we hope that we will be able to address some of the comments made by reviewers on the "FI-WARE Technical Roadmap" deliverable, arguing that the information provided in that deliverable was too abstract (see [1]). Making this first step, we will be able to add a link to the set of features to be supported by each FI-WARE GE from the "FI-WARE Technical Roadmap" deliverable. This way, the argument about lack of concreteness should fly away. Once we have completed the set of Features for a given GE and listed them within the corresponding section inside the "Materializing the FI-WARE Vision" part of the wiki, we will create a last section, right after the section listing the User-Stories, that will be titled "Unit Testing Plan" and will contain a link to a wiki page describing the Unit Testing Plan that will be applied to the GE. This wiki page will be titled " - Unit Testing Plan" and will be structured into one section titled "Information Common to all tests" and then several sections, each linked to a Unit Test. Each Unit Test, will contain: * a subsection titled "Tested Features" which contains a list of links to the wiki pages describing the Features that are tested through the Unit Test * a subsection titled "Test description" which contains detailed information about: * what client programs and (potentially) data sets will be used to run the test * how to run the test: * this should be detailed enough to allow an administrator/operator of a FI-WARE Instance to test if the GE is working properly * dependencies on third party libraries or software should be specified * expected results to be obtained by running the client programs with the referred data set * (note: it would be highly recommended to define a maven project which would be used to run the test and where all dependencies are specified Note that a separate Unit Test may be defined per tested Feature. However, this is not mandatory so a given Unit Test may be used to test several features. What is important is that the Test description provides the information that is needed to run the tests, not only by the developer of the GE but also by any party (e.g., an administrator/operator of a FI-WARE Instance containing that GE) who decides to use the Unit Testing Plan to verify that the GE is working properly in a given FI-WARE Instance setup. A link to the corresponding section in the Unit Testing Plan document at the wiki will be included in a "how-to-test" field of the corresponding backlog entry. We will soon inform you whether this field will be created in the template linked to Features descriptions in the public Wiki or in the ticket at the tracker that corresponds to the Feature. We couldn't provide a reference example of the formula described above because the wiki was down, but we hope to provide it along this week. Nevertheless, don't hesitate to make any question or complement this proposal. Your input is more than welcome. Please, share these instructions with members of your respective teams. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at. http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Errata corrige: FI-WARE: 2nd review report (month 9) Ares(2012)632820 Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 12:20:57 +0200 From: Federica.TAGLIANI at ec.europa.eu To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO , JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA CC: bel.piet1 at gmail.com , renaud.difrancesco at eu.sony.com , dgr at whitestein.com' , Renaud.DiFrancesco at eu.sony.com , msli at icfocus.co.uk , irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com , Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu , INFSO-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu Dear Mr Jimenez, dear Mr Hierro, Please ignore the previous e-mail and find enclosed the correct version of the outcome of the second FI-WARE review. Please distribute the review report to the partners in the consortium. Please acknowledge receipt of this e-mail. Kind regards, Federica Federica Tagliani Assistant to Arian Zwegers European Commission - DG INFSO/D.3 Software & Service Architectures and Infrastructures BU25 3/116, B-1049 Brussels Tel: 32-02-2974471 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Cover FI-WARE review 2 report.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 35081 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Should we arrange travel? > > Best, > > D?nes > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wpl mailing list > Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu > http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lorant.farkas at nsn.com Wed May 30 16:08:50 2012 From: lorant.farkas at nsn.com (Farkas, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest)) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:08:50 +0300 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] WPAs for the Brussels Review In-Reply-To: <4FC6257C.2080101@eng.it> References: <3F4C11BC54A36642BFB5875D599F47BD05F6D11C@DEMUEXC013.nsn-intra.net> <4FC6257C.2080101@eng.it> Message-ID: <93D28BDF64839C468B848D14227151A2038BE7CE@FIESEXC014.nsn-intra.net> Dear All, NSN can provide meeting facilities, not very big ones: 1 meeting room for 6 persons 1 meeting room for 10 persons If noone else provides bigger facilities, these ones could be used. Venue is Rue de la Charit? 17 - B-1210 Brussels. Thanks & Br, Lorant From: fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext Davide Dalle Carbonare Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 3:50 PM To: Bisztray, Denes (NSN - HU/Budapest) Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] WPAs for the Brussels Review I'll be there ... but the location still has to be decided, if I haven't missed anything. BR, Davide On 30/05/2012 14:14, Bisztray, Denes (NSN - HU/Budapest) wrote: Dear WPAs, As far as I understood from one of the previous WPA/WPL meetings, the WPAs should be present for the rehearsal of the reviews (i.e. 19-20 of June). Is this correct? Who is coming? Should we arrange travel? Best, D?nes _______________________________________________ Fiware-wpl mailing list Fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu http://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-wpl -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mcp at tid.es Wed May 30 16:32:22 2012 From: mcp at tid.es (Miguel Carrillo) Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 16:32:22 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Deliverable creation: covers and creting pdf files from wiki pages Message-ID: <4FC62F76.4040603@tid.es> Dear all, Please make sure that you create and maintain covers here, using the same style for all of the deliverables. * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Front_pages_for_deliverables_(wiki_books) There is also a tutorial to create deliverables from wiki pages here (it includes the step of the creation of the cover) : * https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/How_to_create_pdf_deliverables_from_wiki_pages Best regards, Miguel -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _/ _/_/ Miguel Carrillo Pacheco _/ _/ _/ _/ Telef?nica Distrito Telef?nica _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Investigaci?n y Edifico Oeste 1, Planta 9 _/ _/ _/ _/ Desarrollo Ronda de la Comunicaci?n S/N _/ _/_/ 28050 Madrid (Spain) Tel: (+34) 91 483 26 77 e-mail: mcp at tid.es Follow FI-WARE on the net Website: http://www.fi-ware.eu Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: http://twitter.com/Fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 From jhierro at tid.es Thu May 31 10:03:40 2012 From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro) Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 10:03:40 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware] Fwd: Detailed instructions on how to generate the Unit Testing Plan deliverable for a FI-WARE GE In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4FC725DC.20903@tid.es> Hi, The example will be provided by tomorrow EOB, but mostly in order to avoid missunderstandings about where to place things and to give some hints about formatting of sections, etc so that everything looks homogeneous. However, the rather important things you should be working on since some time, because they may require some time, are: * the addition of features that, complementing the existing ones, provide a accurate and complete description of the features by the GE * the development of the unit testing programs to be run in order to test the different features For the former, it is clear where they are placed (Materializing the FI-WARE Vision) and the format is also clear since months. The second is a matter of having the required unit testing programs ready, each GE will have its own suite of unit testing programs. So, therefore, don't use the lack of a example as an excuse not to do the above. Creating the wiki document describing the Unit Testing plan will be pretty straightforward is the above is ready. Nevertheless, you will see a reference example by tomorrow EOB. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 31/05/12 09:29, Leidig, Torsten wrote: > Any news about the reference example? > > How do we handle GE implementations which are not installed by the > user but rather offered as a service under control of the developer or > any other administrator/operator? > > > From: Juanjo Hierro > > Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:15:56 +0200 > To: "fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu " > > > Subject: [Fiware] Fwd: Detailed instructions on how to generate the > Unit Testing Plan deliverable for a FI-WARE GE > > Note that a separate Unit Test may be defined per tested Feature. > However, this is not mandatory so a given Unit Test may be used to > test several features. 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