Could all WPLs leading WPs where Ericsson intends to declare costs elaborate on how much, as maximum, they would be willing to accept as costs reported by Ericsson ? So far, based on gathered responses, I have: * WP5: Ericsson worked with Telecom Italia to solve some issues regarding integration between GEs that were not solved for the review (there are some emails on this topic) and Ericsson attended also some weekly meeting especially to try to transfer their GE instance to another partner. Thierry explained that these actions they can claim some costs but certainly not the 3 PM they claimed - However, we have to come with a specific proposal on how much would be acceptable (please see note in red below). * WP7: no activities were performed by Ericsson in the concerned period, so no costs claims will be accepted * WP9: Andrea mentions that since Nov 12 the only work done was related to the take over of the catalogue by UPM. Does this mean that you wouldn't accept any costs claims (in line with red note below) ? Please confirm * WP10: no effort was provided in the concerned period, therefore, no costs claims will be accepted Last but not least ... it seems like Ericsson doesn't declare costs regarding WP3 ... Can SAP clarify whether we are safe on WP3 ? In general terms, I believe we shoud tell Ericsson that they should not claim costs related to the take over of Ericsson's activities. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 15/04/13 09:50, thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com> wrote: Dear all, I would just come back on the process to claim costs. Maybe I'm wrong but all partners have to provide their claimed costs to the coordinator for the project but at the end they are related to a contract between the partner and EC. This point is important to avoid any long discussion and because in many other projects if a partner decided to claim costs EC had lots of difficulties to reject them without very good reasons. When Ericsson decided to withdraw, we were not at a milestone with an official financial statement, as Arian explained before regarding rejected deliverables. So maybe Ericsson was involved in some minor tasks and if this is the case they can claim for some costs. Regarding WP5 IoT, Ericsson worked with Telecom Italia to solve some issues regarding integration between GEs that were not solved for the review (there are some emails on this topic) and Ericsson attended also some weekly meeting especially to try to transfer their GE instance to another partner. For these actions they can claim some costs but certainly not the 3 PM they claimed And if they claim some costs we have also to check that everything is available for the project and the programme (documentation, software...) and currently one doc (Generic Device API) has disappeared from the wiki regarding the Gateway Device Management GE so in this case I cannot consider they have worked correctly but I'm waiting for details from Ericsson to give you a final answer. BR Thierry -----Message d'origine----- De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de depa at eng.it<mailto:depa at eng.it> Envoyé : lundi 15 avril 2013 08:17 À : Juanjo Hierro; fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> Objet : [Fiware-wpl] R: Fwd: RE: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. (*** VERY IMPORTANT & URGENT ***) Dear Juanjo and colleagues, The position of Engineering is very simple. It was their unilateral decision to withdraw the project. They were not asked for any reason to do so nor the project changed its position or way of working thus making them impossible to stay in. On the contrary the create a certain damage to the consortium. When they withdraw they declare no more effort to be provided, again not a request from us. So if for whatever reason a wpl asked them to complete a certain work this must be recognised. For what pertains wp10 no effort provided in the concerned period. If all the other wpl declare the same nothing can be recognised to them. Ciao Stefano Le mail ti raggiungono ovunque con BlackBerry® from Vodafone! -----Original Message----- From: Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es> Sender: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 01:45:58 To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu><fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu><mailto:fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu><fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu><mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu><fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu><mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: RE: FI-WARE: Withdrawal of Ericsson. 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