Dear Thierry, all I agree with your comments and for the first one I add that an option may be to create a library of symbols representing FI-WARE GEs that can be used to produce a high level architecture with a common language ... as what we've done with FMC notation. this "FI-WARE GEs library" may be made available as ppt/odp template, yED palette, ... BR Davide On 18/01/2013 08:47, thierry.nagellen at orange.com wrote: > > Dear all, > > Here are my comments : > > ·This kind of validation should happen at the Architecture Board level > first, but it is not enough as WP Architects are not involved is this > body. But to ask more from the new projects, we should propose quickly > a framework on how their architecture should be described. To me, we > have also a lack on our whole architecture so we cannot just require > more from the new projects that what we have today. We had this > discussion several times and also with the reviewers so do we propose > to the new projects to use the same tools than us to describe their > architecture? It should be the first step to share a common technical > vision. > > ·I would be a bit more flexible on the validation process because they > will not use only Fi-Ware GE but also Specific Enablers so do we have > to spend lots of time also to understand this part of their > architecture? If yes, we have to dedicate some resources for that > explicitly. > > ·We agree to manage some PoC with the testbed so I think it is > difficult to say that we will postpone trials when Fi-Ware will stop! > Except if you have some news that we will continue during the 3^rd > phase and that all partners involved in Fi-Ware will be there also... > If by production you understand that end-users will be able to use new > services, I agree that our testbed and the Open Innovation Lab will > not support correctly what the new projects should run. But in this > case it is more a point for Xifi than for FiWare. > > I have no major comments on the KPI you propose. They are a good > starting point for the negotiation. > > BR > > Thierry > > *De :*fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu > [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] *De la part de* Juanjo Hierro > *Envoyé :* jeudi 17 janvier 2013 18:27 > *À :* fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; > fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu > *Objet :* [Fiware-pcc] Requirements on phase 2 projects to take into > account during negotiations > > Dear all, > > > We at Telefonica believe that FI-WARE should play an active role > during negotiations of projects of the phase 2 of the FI-PPP. In > this respect, we would like to come up with a number of requirements > that we believe should be taken into account while negotiating > projects in the phase 2 of the FI-PPP, i.e., probably become part of > the DoW associated to those projects. > > Here it is our first input on the matter that we have already shared > with the EC. They are still defined in a very high-level, however I > believe they are described well enough as to understand them: > > * "Physical" Architecture of Trial projects should be validated by > both the Capacity Building and FI-WARE projects. We should avoid > that each Trial ends up with a dedicated FI-WARE Instance deployed > on their own infrastructure, for instance. If there are > opportunities to use some of the GEis "as a Service" from a common > shared FI-WARE Instance or network of FI-WARE Instances, operated > by the Capacity Building Project, that should be the path to go. > Trials should make their case about why dedicated FI-WARE GEis > have to be deployed instead. While consensus is highly > desirable, I believe that the Capacity Building project and > FI-WARE should take the role of approving what the Trials will > propose and be able to require changes. > * Software Architecture of Trial projects should be validated by > FI-WARE to make sure that Trials take the most that is possible > from FI-WARE. We should avoid that Trials develop/use enablers > that could be covered by existing FI-WARE GEs. FI-WARE should > take the role of approving what Trials propose and require changes. > * Trials projects should be planned so that no one enters into > "production" until the Technology Foundation continuation project > has started. Being realistic, it would be highly desirable that > projects don't enter into production until September 2014. It is > worth considering whether duration of Trial projects should be > adjusted accordingly, so that they last 30 months instead of 24 > months (which is what we suspect most of them have planned). > * Trials projects should be requested to offer to 3rd party > developers the opportunity to run their applications on the > infrastructure the Trials will setup together with the Capacity > Building project. In this respect, Trials and the Capacity > Building projects should be asked to design how their operating > infrastructure will be connected to the FI-WARE Open Innovation > Lab. We should allow that an application that has been > experimented/tested in the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab finds the > way to be tried with real users thanks to the infrastructures that > Trials and the Capacity Buidling project will setup together. > > > We would like to gather your feedback on them as well as collect any > additional requirement you believe it would be worth to add. I > believe this is a discussion that we can carry out off-line effectively. > > As far as we understand, CONCORD is developing a draft on KPIs to be > asked to UC trials in phase 2 and therefore to be included in the DoW > ... but I haven't seen anything that I can share at this point. A > rather quickly list of KPIs that we have defined and sent to the EC > (indeed very much related with the above requirements) are the following: > > 1. number of FI-WARE GEs being used > 2. number of applications from third parties experimented in the > FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab that have been able to run integrated > with the trial developed by the project > 3. number of FI-WARE GEs being used that are deployed and offered "as > a Service" on shared/federated facilities provided by the Capacity > Building project > 4. number of VMs allocated for execution of trial application > components on FI-WARE Cloud provided as part of shared/federated > facilities provided by the Capacity Building project > 5. object storage capacity allocated for usage by trial application > components on FI-WARE Cloud provided as part of shared/federated > facilities provided by the Capacity Building project > 6. average number of requests per day to FI-WARE GE APIs during > execution of trials > 7. average number of requests per month to FI-WARE GE APIs during > execution of trials > > Values of all these KPIs should be benchmarked against: > > * min value established as minimum target at start of phase 2 > * average value for UC trials in phase 2 > * value in demo application to be developed by FI-WARE (this only > applicable to KPI no. 1) > > > Again, your feedback on them and input regarding additional KPIs is > more than welcome. > > Our goal is that FI-WARE arrives with a presentation on our final > requirements and KPIs during the workshop negotiation on Feb 4-5, > ideally with a concrete draft text to be included in the DoWs of new > projects in phase 2. > > Cheers, > > > -- Juanjo > > ------------- > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital > website:www.tid.es <http://www.tid.es> > email:jhierro at tid.es <mailto:jhierro at tid.es> > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro > > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect > > You can follow FI-WARE at: > website:http://www.fi-ware.eu > facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > twitter:http://twitter.com/FIware > linkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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