Thanks, Manuel. Your clarifications are helpful. We can handle this one-on-one, but I think it might be of interest for others, who might have similar questions/concerns. > access to the backlog items is easy, just a click on the spreadsheet. It allows you fixing items in a matter of seconds. Indeed, very easy -- but with over 5000 (!!) potential issues across the 6 chapters, this is simply not feasible to even check what is right and what is wrong. Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | http://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE <mev at tid.es> To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL, Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu>, "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>, MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <mcp at tid.es>, JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA <jhierro at tid.es> Date: 25/06/2013 11:46 AM Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Backlog - complete review available Thanks Alex, I do appreciate the comment and questions. I already offered myself for clarification/explanation, and I?m trying to schedule bilateral meeting with you all since some aspects need a closer understanding, anyway, Let me share a first explanation, which I?ll expand on those bilateral meetings, if needed. · Oh, I think it does. The proposal approved recently by the board didn?t change essential aspects like structure and fields, it mainly simplified and clarified things, so the errors aren?t caused by the ?new guidelines?. Therefore, that perception is wrong. I think it?s important to fix ALL items identified: C1- sprint and release, C2-Consistency of backlog reference, C3-Backlog hierarchy, and C4- Link Tracker/Wiki and C5-Item description. Of course, having the public view of the backlog on the wiki in good shape it?s important. · That can be taken as a proposal, but there?s a link where you have it available any time. It doesn?t seem a big thing. · Ah, we do have deterministic rules, it?s implicit in the naming convention. I?ll explain it in our bilateral meeting · Ah, By functional items I mean (Epic, Feature and Story), they are the items covering functional development. WorkItems are for non-functional content (reporting, etc) and Bugs are for ?. Bugs. · ?URL?..? it points out urls whose items (stories, workitem and bugs) will not be shown in the wiki, so they aren?t need anymore. Of course they are needed for the Epics and Features shown in the wiki. · ?Due not dismissed?? It means valid Epics and Features which aren?t shown in the wiki. There?s validation of whether the wiki shows the correct subset of items (Epics and Features) of the backlog, this is the ?matching tracker/wiki?. Well, I?ll like to know what you found, perhaps the script has some errors or the rule/criteria is wrong. Let me know what Item ID(number) is affected so that I can check it. · Well, I?d try to improve items with percentile below 5% - For example 3805?s description is done with 2 words, which looks ? a bit ?inexpressive?, or perhaps 4226, it?s over-expresive. It depends on you, at least you have a tool which shows the general aspect of how the public items are described. Obviously, this section is labelled as improving and aren?t marked as issues. Those which are issues, are also identified in other sheets. Overall, Alex, I want to emphasize that access to the backlog items is easy, just a click on the spreadsheet. It allows you fixing items in a matter of seconds. I hope I clarified some aspects. Well, let me know when we can have the phone talk. Kind regards, Manuel From: Alex Glikson [mailto:GLIKSON at il.ibm.com] Sent: lunes, 24 de junio de 2013 22:05 To: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE Cc: fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Backlog - complete review available Dear Manuel, Fantastic work! Few comments/questions: I wonder whether it makes sense spending hours on fixing items which have been closed a year ago or even more. We had different guidelines, and, frankly, not sure anyone cares.. At least for Cloud, this would require very significant effort, with (close to) zero value to anyone. Can you, please, update the labels of the new sprint/release fields to include the corresponding time periods (e.g., "Release 2.3: May 2013 - July 2013")? This would make validation easier. Can you, please, elaborate how exactly did you determine parent-child relationship? IMO, we don't have 100% deterministic guidelines about this. what do you mean by "all Functional Items ordered" and "all workitems"? regarding "url not needed but available on tracker- to be removed", I think it is actually a good practice for stories to specify URL of the corresponding Feature. If you insist -- maybe you can just remove it with a script. Some of the inconsistencies can be easily fixed using a script -- probably similar to the one you are using to gather statistics? This could save effort. Can you, please, explain the meaning of "due not dismissed backlog items not available in wiki directory", "matching tracker - wiki" and "items details already provided on the wiki"? I've checked few -- and everything seems fine.. What is the problem with name = reference? I am not aware of guidelines preventing this. Any action items from W-C4? Once again, very impressive! Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | http://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE <mev at tid.es> To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>, Cc: "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> Date: 20/06/2013 07:16 PM Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Backlog - complete review available Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear Partners, Let me inform you that complete review of the backlogs (Tracker + Wiki) are available at the following links: WP3 (@Thorsten): https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2652/FIWARE.backlog.apps.review.20130620-1228.xlsx WP4 (@Alex): https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2653/FIWARE.backlog.cloud.review.20130620-1233.xlsx WP5 (@Thierry): https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2656/FIWARE.backlog.iot.review.20130620-1300.xlsx WP6 (@Sergio): https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2654/FIWARE.backlog.data.review.20130620-1237.xlsx WP7 (@Pier): https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2655/FIWARE.backlog.i2nd.review.20130620-1239.xlsx WP8 (@Pascal): https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2657/FIWARE.backlog.security.review.20130620-1303.xlsx The review scheme follows the same pattern as the previous reviews for the wiki. There?s a front page with a summary of the issues with metrics, and then pages with details for each criteria group. Within the reviews you?ll find embedded links to the tracker and wiki items for easy access. If you find any mistake or suggestion easing access to the items, please, let me know; it will help me improve the process and its output. I would appreciate you take action for fixing the many issues found. Additional reviews can be provided now easily, it can be done weekly/monthly or if needed on demand as well. Well, if needed I?ve available for clarifications, either on email, or the phone, as you wish. Kind regards, Manuel ---------------------------- Manuel Escriche Vicente Agile Project Manager/Leader FI-WARE Initiative Telefónica Digital Parque Tecnológico C/ Abraham Zacuto, 10 47151 - Boecillo Valladolid - Spain Tfno: +34.91.312.99.72 Fax: +34.983.36.75.64 http://www.tid.es Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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