Dear all,
Sorry for the late response, there is a loooong queue of pending issues in my inbox.
1) I enclose a couple of messages. I sent a few before but these are the last two ones. I gave him a first introductory talk (about 1 hour) to show him where the resources were and he never contacted me again. As you see in the enclosed emails, I basically sent him the info I collected from you and offered direct support from the relevant contacts. I am surprised that he has never contacted me again (or any of you as far as I am aware).
2) I initially said to him that R2.2 was safer at that stage (beginning of the summer- there was little of R2.3 at that point) but at the end of his work, of course he could have looked into R2.3 (or asked!)
3) If we make an excel list of GEs with the columns "name of GE/GEi on wiki", "name on catalogue" (just public ones, of course) and "name of binaries on Files" we would see that it is not that easy or obvious. The level of clarity depends on the chapter. I can tell you 'cause every time I tried to do mappings, it was sometimes a nightmare. So he's right here, at least in my personal opinion.
And yes, one extra column would be the recipes not to mention the still not very numerous eLearning courses.
A proper answer would be aligning everything, making sure that it is 100% consistent and delivering an excel file with everything in full order. But given the previous experience with R2.3 (still pending reviews, some after 3 iterations) I am sceptical that we could get something close to that in a short time unless we neglect R3.
4) Regardless of the cloud facilities and the recipes, the binary packages should install beautifully and he claims that it is not the case. We should do installation testing to check (do we have the resources? I doubt it) but I suspect that in some cases he's right.
Best regards,
Miguel
El 04/10/2013 8:38, thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com> escribió:
Hi All,
I am also a bit surprised by this review especially because in many cases, it refers to release 2.2 software packages and not to release 2.3 (it is typically the case for IoT but also for many other chapter after a very quick reading). But I'm sure that Miguel can confirm what are the documentation and packages we sent to Mr Lutz Schubert (I have some emails at the beginning of August)
Recommendation 1: easy installation package... We did some progress especially in the SaaS approach with recipes but it was clearly not the approach following during this evaluation (stand alone evaluation)
Recommendation 2: I've raised this issue previously that we missed at least the architecture picture to understand why different chapters and how some GE can interact with some other. For the comment regarding inclusion of specific use cases per GE to illustrate how to use them, we can bridge this point with the missing white paper, but again we will change the content of the white paper, and it is not aligned on what we can find in any Open Source community website: use case scenario per component.
We can envisage easily on the first page an introduction for each chapter and the the list of GE per chapter and their role in the architecture
Recommendation 3: Clearly the catalogue was not the 1st priority in July and the content was not aligned with the R2.3 delivery BUT we do not have to explain compatibility between the different license models! If you want to know the compatibility between a GPL and a L-GPL today, you have to do this work yourself based on the documentation you have for the different licenses. What is clearly missing for some GEs is the license model and details.
So the weak feedback is for me globally related to the delays we had with release R2.3 (and I'm not pointing anybody for that, we are on the same boat) trying to improve everything for the Campus Party. And I'm sure that Future Networks and Ogilvy have some comments on our catalogue.
BR
Thierry
De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro
Envoyé : vendredi 4 octobre 2013 01:15
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Objet : [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
Hi all,
Please find enclosed the technical report produced by Lutz Schubert regarding FI-WARE GEs.
I haven't had time to review it carefully although in a very quick review I found several statements that suprised me and, mostly, it seems like a lot of the testing was made over versions of GEs which where not the ones delivered in release 2.2 or 2.3.
Nevertheless, I pass the report to you.
I have prepared a copy of the report at the following Google document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FVDmcUqamhfMhCDundzcrGwrLBYWF8xePUyic5Axr6A/edit
I would kindly ask you to review the report and, in cooperation with GEi owners in your chapter, add a response (please add text in Blue after commented paragraphs) to the report. This way, we can quickly get a response to this report. Afterwards, we can discuss whether it is suitable to send such response back to the EC.
Cheers,
-- Juanjo
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FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
Date:
Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:37:43 +0000
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Dear Juanjo,
As indicated before, the assessment of prototypes during FI-WARE reviews is mostly based on the demos. I would like to have a better assessment of the prototypes, independent from the normal FI-WARE reviews. Therefore, Lutz Schubert from the University of Ulm (formerly with HLRS Stuttgart) has carried out this task.
His report is attached.
The report is the status as of 10 days ago, and might not be fully complete/consistent related to the Catalogue, the specifications of the wiki, etc. However, it does not make a lot of sense to try to perfect the assessment right now, as the report is clear of its main conclusions. A similar, second exercise could be done in (say) 6 months from now.
Best regards,
Arian
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