Hi all , Nuria, since you insist, let me share my point of view that we should really go to where our customers/developers already are! We should present FI-PPP at well-established events instead of organizing our own events where it is difficult to attract the relevant customers/developers and we end up being largely among ourselves. Last ECFI, we even started by asking them to pay for the privilege to talk to us :-). On the other hand, a positive example was our one-day booth during CeBIT (full disclosure, I suggested and helped organize this event). Even though it was a first time experiment and we had issues getting all partners to plan their contribution in time, we have been able to address many, many more people from the Real World (TM) than would ever have been possible at ECFI. And the cost was rather low as well -- much, much lower than what I have heard from ECFI. For ECFI in Brussels, I could at least see the point of enabling direct contact with commission and political people (which did work to some degree, at least). But even that point is not relevant for other locations. Maybe, I am missing something, but so far I have not seen a convincing concept that would even get us close to the number of developers and business people we have been able to meet in the one day event at CeBIT. I would suggest that with the experience from CeBIT it would be significantly more useful to spend the money we have left on an extended and better prepared presence at CeBIT next year. This could include more technical content; more, better, and larger integrated demos of FI-PPP functionality; developer seminars; hackathons; and others. The CeBIT organizers would even be interested in supporting us in order to attract even larger crowds of business related developers to CeBIT (BTW, DFKI would certainly be willing to help organize the event again). I am sure for other domains, similar events exist that we could target in the mean time. I should probably add that this view is consensus also in FIcontent. Besides CeBIT as a developer event, FIcontent is now also focusing on events that provide direct contact with end users and enable us to perform large-scale experiments. This may not be as relevant for FI-WARE/FI-Core, but then -- I could see a positive point there as well. Best, Philipp Am 05.05.2014 19:20, schrieb De-Lama Sanchez, Nuria: > Dear all, > > I have sent this e-mail already two times. > > *_I really need feedback from FI-WARE_*. In fact, the agenda was > circulated to the SB of the FI PPP as it was because there was no answer > from us to increase our visibility. > > It is important that you provide your views on this, since FI-WARE will > have to face another big payment to contribute to the organization of > ECFI2. Furthermore it is expected that we have a stand, but they > mentioned explicitly that they expect demos and more active > participation from the colleagues, since it was clear that in the last > edition we failed to send technical people to show “GE in practice”. > Still I think it was useful and some good connections were established, > besides the fact that the EC and all the attendees got a good impression > of us. This I very important to convince people, to get credibility in > the community. > > I agree that if we look at potential commercial customers, this is not > our community, but we cannot forget that the immediate responsibility of > FI-WARE and the follow up projects is based on supporting SMEs and > accelerators. > > Check the attachments I sent in my previous e-mails and please, read the > e-mail below (already forwarded) and come back with answers to the > important points. > > *_One essential thing for me is knowing which resources we can count on > for demos and stand, taking into consideration that the previous week > there will be the Campus party_*. > > There is a Steering Board tomorrow and a DWG teleconference in few days. > No position from FI-WARE? > > Thanks in advance, Nuria > > *From:*De-Lama Sanchez, Nuria > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 16, 2014 5:55 PM > *To:* fiware-pcc (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.org) > *Cc:* fiware-comms at lists.fi-ware.org > *Subject:* Updates on ECFI2_Concept, programme and budget > *Importance:* High > > Dear colleagues from PCC > > CC: Comms > > Following my previous e-mail let me update you on some discussions > happening in the Organizing committee of ECFI2, the FI PPP event that > will be organized in September 2014 in Munich. > > I am part of this OC in order to represent FI-WARE in the discussions > and help in the organization; today I had my first long teleconference > with them and I can already share some information with you. > > Let me attach: > > ·Concept of the event > > ·Current version of the programme > > ·Budget (please, keep it confidential) > > All this was defined before I joined the OC. Now, I have “voice” in the > group, and I would like to circulate some questions for which I would > like to get a commonly agreed position: > > ·Are we in favor of *having a fee?* This will probably be defined > depending on the typology of organization or may be related to the > attendance to different parts to ensure that this is not a barrier for > SMEs. IMHO there should be a not-too-high fee to ensure that we avoid > the no-shows, as it happened in ECFI1 > > ·As in ECFI1, FI-WARE is expected to contribute financially to the > event. As you can see in the budget*, the expected figure is 15.000 euro > approx*. > > ·*Check the current agenda*. In the discussion today we talked about the > possibility of including a slot devoted to FI-WARE and FI-LAB (FI-OPS?) > before the Phase 3 session. The programme is so compressed that it is > difficult to figure out how to accommodate more contents, but of course > it is important that FI-WARE increases its visibility. Think on how to > link this with winners of the next Campus Party and practical examples > on how to successfully use FI-LAB. > > ·It is also expected that FI-WARE sets up a booth, as in ECFI1, but we > should focus on running demos > > Please, send your comments and suggestions as soon as possible to me and > not later than next week. I will inform the OC and will speed up the > integration of our ideas into the process. > > Best regards, > > *Nuria de Lama* > > Research & Innovation > > Representative to the European Commission > > M +34 680645692 > > T +34 91214 9321 > > F +34 91754 3252 > > nuria.delama at atos.net <mailto:nuria.delama at atos.net> > > Albarracín 25 > > 28037 Madrid > > Spain > > www.atosresearch.eu <http://www.atosresearch.eu/> > > es.atos.net > > *IMPORTANT - MAIL ADDRESS CHANGE - From now on, please use only mail > address nuria.delama at atos.net <mailto:nuria.delama at atos.net> * > > *The former @atosresearch.eu address will be cancelled soon* > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fiware-wpa mailing list > Fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.org > https://lists.fi-ware.org/listinfo/fiware-wpa > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern Geschäftsführung: Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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