Hi Juanjo, I got the same request (same person) for I2ND project. I think that would be worth sending the mail to the AB. Moreover, the reason to request joining the chapter project was 'to submit GE request by Finest': I believe the mail should also explain (maybe with the link to the relevant Wiki tutorial pages) what the UCPs can input, that is Feature requests in the FI-WARE backlog, not GEs. Two more questions about the capability to monitor our chapter backlogs, as I'm a bit confused: - If we have e.g. one 'public' backlog per chapter, visible to everybody, can we also have the 'private' trackers in parallel to it, not visible to users outside FI-WARE? - Why should we have EPICs/features in the chapter backlog, aren't they already in the FI-WARE Wiki backlog? I believe we could keep the single chapter backlogs private and devoted to the user-stories tracker(s) Did I mix something wrongly? BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Juanjo Hierro Inviato: giovedì 29 settembre 2011 20:11 A: Alex Glikson Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Fw: Request to Join Project FI-WARE Cloud Not sure you can add a message in the rejection ... I'll ask. Nevertheless, I will send an email to the FI-PPP AB mailing list (where representatives of all UC projects are registered) telling them that we will reject any request to join to projects different than the FI-WARE project. Probably they are asking to join because they need to be able to "read" the trackers linked to Chapter backlogs. But this is something we will allow anyone world-wide (that is my recall on the matter when we discussed it, but it's also what makes sense to me), therefore they will be able to monitor. What they won't be able to do (and they shouldn't) is to submit tickets directly to the Chapter backlogs. Some people may argue that we shouldn't even allow "observers" to read our chapter backlogs ... Well, I believe that publishing Epics/Features is not a big deal and we have to keep them publicly readable. I would even add that not doing so could bring some troubles to us in front of the EC (I believe it would not comply with what we committed in the DoW) On the other hand, I would be more flexible regarding User-stories and leave to chapter partners the decision about keeping user-stories in separate trackers (either a single one or one per GE) or not. It would then be feasible to keep such user-story oriented trackers fully private. The trade off, of course, is that such approach would mean more administrative burden for the chapter partners, but if they wish to live with that, it's fine to me. Best regards, Juanjo Hierro Chief Technologist on Software Technologies Telefonica R&D Labs email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> phone: +34 91 48 32932 www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> twitter.com/JuanjoHierro Oeste 1, Planta 5. Distrito C Ronda de la Comunicacion s/n Madrid 28050 Spain On 29/09/11 19:33, Alex Glikson wrote: Dear Juanjo, Is there a way to reject a request to join a project with a comment/explanation? I've rejected the request below, but wanted to clarify that GE requests should be opened against the 'root' FI-WARE project. Regards, Alex P.S. copying WP leads, as similar questions are likely to arise for their WP projects in Forge ----- Forwarded by Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM on 29/09/2011 08:29 PM ----- From: noreply at forge.fi-ware.eu<mailto:noreply at forge.fi-ware.eu> To: Alex Glikson/Haifa/IBM at IBMIL Date: 29/09/2011 05:06 PM Subject: Request to Join Project FI-WARE Cloud ________________________________ Nazila Gol mohammadi has requested to join your project. You can approve this request here: https://forge.fi-ware.eu/project/admin/users.php?group_id=14 Comments by the user: I need to join to this project in order to submit GE request by Finest ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace situado más abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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