[Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting

[Alex Glikson]

I am on a business trip, but others from the Cloud chapter will cover.

Regards,
Alex



From:   Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es>
To:     "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>, 
"fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu>, 
Date:   08/05/2012 09:38 AM
Subject:        [Fiware-wpl] [Suspected Spam] URGENT Fwd: [Instant 
Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting
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Hi all, 

  Please find below an email I have received from the InstantMobility 
project regarding the bilateral session they requested (don't get confused 
if you see that our colleague Thierry is the sender, because he is also 
involved in InstantMobility :-).

  I have inserted my potential response between lines.   Despite I 
disagree with some of the arguments made by the InstantMobility project, I 
believe it shouldn't be a problem to arrange the requested virtual meeting 
if we are able to ...

  I NEED the confirmation from representatives of the chapters referred in 
InstantMobility's email (I2ND, Data/Context Management, IoT, Cloud, Apps, 
Security) to confirm whether they (or someone else of their chapter) would 
be available on the proposed date/time for such a virtual meeting.    Note 
that according to the agenda that InstantMobility suggested, this session 
would be mostly organized so that InstantMobility will describe us how 
they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how they plan to integrate them with 
other domain-specific GEs they are planning to develop, so that they can 
collect our feedback.    Therefore, it is not expected that we prepare any 
presentation for the session (although, of course, we have to be ready to 
answer doubts, questions). 

  BESIDES, if you believe there is any issue with any of my proposed 
responses (between lines of their message) please let me know.

  Cheers, 

-- Juanjo


-------- Original Message -------- 
Subject: 
[Instant Mobility][Fi-Ware] technical virtual meeting
Date: 
Mon, 7 May 2012 11:24:48 +0200
From: 
thierry.nagellen at orange.com <thierry.nagellen at orange.com>
To: 
JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA <jhierro at tid.es>
CC: 
patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com <patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com>, 
jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com <jean-marie.dautelle at thalesgroup.com>


Dear Juanjo,
 
We fully agree that educational sessions are useful to better understand 
what Fi-Ware would deliver especially for the first release. But this is 
not a common developers? session as Instant Mobility technical team would 
organize with Fi-Ware. 
 
Our objective is clearly to work on interfaces between Instant Mobility 
Specific Enablers and FI-Ware Generic Enablers to reach an agreement and 
to be able to use some of them for our prototype. The objective is not to 
better understand FI-Ware GE but to provide technical details on 
interactions between specific enablers and generic enablers and identify 
functionalities and documented APIs which could bring consistency to 
ensure Instant Mobility prototype development.

Response: the educational sessions are not just organized around 
description of the FI-WARE Generic Enablers.   Probably you are aware that 
each of the days during those educational weeks are splitted in two.  One 
part devoted actually to description of FI-WARE GEs (despite we intend to 
make this parts of the sessions rather interactive with the UC projects 
present).   However, the other part is organized by the UC projects so 
that they can explain what is the Architecture of the Applications they 
are designing, how they plan to use the FI-WARE GEs within that 
Architecture and what domain-specific Enablers they are planning to 
develop.   That's why we have always insisted that the kind of session you 
pretend to organize fits clearly within the scope of what we intend to do 
in the educational weeks (note that "education" happens in the two 
directions: UC projects will learn more about FI-WARE, but FI-WARE will 
learn more about UC projects.)
 
We are deeply convinced that a virtual meeting is not an optimal way to 
reach this objective, to analyze everything in details, to use schemas and 
some engineering tools to reach a common view. Virtual meeting will just 
support information exchange and will require some other meetings to 
clarify technical topics. So virtual meetings will require more times for 
both teams, Instant Mobility and FI-Ware, to achieve a common work.
 
Response: Actually, the optimal way is to have a f2f meeting.   That was 
why the educational sessions were defined, and we selected two weeks to 
make it easier to adapt to UC project's calendars.  We also hope that you 
can agree that we cannot have dedicated and separate meetings for each and 
every UC project.    We have planned to have dedicated meetings with the 
UC projects (this is what the second parts of the educational weeks are 
designed for) but need to concentrate them for the sake of managing 
resources and budget properly.    The trade-off was to have two weeks so 
that each UC project can better adapt to the one that fits better within 
its calendar.    I remind you here that if this still doesn't fit well 
into the calendar, you would have the ability to justify a fine adjustment 
of your calendar in order to better synchronize with FI-WARE.    The EC 
has several times shown they would be willing to accept such kind of 
fine-tune adjustments in projects' planning.   

Nevertheless, regarding FI-Ware time constraints to organize this session, 
we propose to organize a virtual meeting on Wednesday, May 16th  from 
10:00 AM to 1:00 PM (3 hours) to deal with some issues regarding the 
following chapters of FI-Ware (I2ND, Data & &Context Management, IoT, 
Cloud, Applications & Services Ecosystem, Security). This meeting will 
happen before our review and when our technical team is available. If you 
agree on this date we will provide the agenda ASAP.

Response: Having a virtual meeting with the agenda you initially proposed 
would certainly add more time to the time allocated to InstantMobility in 
the educational session week were a session dedicated to the project will 
be planned, so let's arrange the one at the time you propose.   We'll do 
our best to have representatives of the mentioned chapters during that 
confcall.  We assume that the session would be mostly organized so that 
InstantMobility will describe us how they plan to use FI-WARE GEs and how 
they plan to integrate them with other domain-specific GEs you are 
planning to develop, so that you can collect our feedback.   FI-WARE 
wouldn't need to prepare any specific presentation on FI-WARE's chapters 
although, of course, we will respond any questions, doubts that may arise 
during the discussion.

 
Best regards
Thierry Nagellen 
Program Manager Future Internet
Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 
905 rue Albert Einstein 
06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex 
+33 492 94 52 84 
+33 679 85 08 44
New email address: thierry.nagellen at orange.com 
 


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