Dear all, Here are my comments : · This kind of validation should happen at the Architecture Board level first, but it is not enough as WP Architects are not involved is this body. But to ask more from the new projects, we should propose quickly a framework on how their architecture should be described. To me, we have also a lack on our whole architecture so we cannot just require more from the new projects that what we have today. We had this discussion several times and also with the reviewers so do we propose to the new projects to use the same tools than us to describe their architecture? It should be the first step to share a common technical vision. · I would be a bit more flexible on the validation process because they will not use only Fi-Ware GE but also Specific Enablers so do we have to spend lots of time also to understand this part of their architecture? If yes, we have to dedicate some resources for that explicitly. · We agree to manage some PoC with the testbed so I think it is difficult to say that we will postpone trials when Fi-Ware will stop! Except if you have some news that we will continue during the 3rd phase and that all partners involved in Fi-Ware will be there also... If by production you understand that end-users will be able to use new services, I agree that our testbed and the Open Innovation Lab will not support correctly what the new projects should run. But in this case it is more a point for Xifi than for FiWare. I have no major comments on the KPI you propose. They are a good starting point for the negotiation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro Envoyé : jeudi 17 janvier 2013 18:27 À : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : [Fiware-pcc] Requirements on phase 2 projects to take into account during negotiations Dear all, We at Telefonica believe that FI-WARE should play an active role during negotiations of projects of the phase 2 of the FI-PPP. In this respect, we would like to come up with a number of requirements that we believe should be taken into account while negotiating projects in the phase 2 of the FI-PPP, i.e., probably become part of the DoW associated to those projects. Here it is our first input on the matter that we have already shared with the EC. They are still defined in a very high-level, however I believe they are described well enough as to understand them: * "Physical" Architecture of Trial projects should be validated by both the Capacity Building and FI-WARE projects. We should avoid that each Trial ends up with a dedicated FI-WARE Instance deployed on their own infrastructure, for instance. If there are opportunities to use some of the GEis "as a Service" from a common shared FI-WARE Instance or network of FI-WARE Instances, operated by the Capacity Building Project, that should be the path to go. Trials should make their case about why dedicated FI-WARE GEis have to be deployed instead. While consensus is highly desirable, I believe that the Capacity Building project and FI-WARE should take the role of approving what the Trials will propose and be able to require changes. * Software Architecture of Trial projects should be validated by FI-WARE to make sure that Trials take the most that is possible from FI-WARE. We should avoid that Trials develop/use enablers that could be covered by existing FI-WARE GEs. FI-WARE should take the role of approving what Trials propose and require changes. * Trials projects should be planned so that no one enters into "production" until the Technology Foundation continuation project has started. Being realistic, it would be highly desirable that projects don't enter into production until September 2014. It is worth considering whether duration of Trial projects should be adjusted accordingly, so that they last 30 months instead of 24 months (which is what we suspect most of them have planned). * Trials projects should be requested to offer to 3rd party developers the opportunity to run their applications on the infrastructure the Trials will setup together with the Capacity Building project. In this respect, Trials and the Capacity Building projects should be asked to design how their operating infrastructure will be connected to the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab. We should allow that an application that has been experimented/tested in the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab finds the way to be tried with real users thanks to the infrastructures that Trials and the Capacity Buidling project will setup together. We would like to gather your feedback on them as well as collect any additional requirement you believe it would be worth to add. I believe this is a discussion that we can carry out off-line effectively. As far as we understand, CONCORD is developing a draft on KPIs to be asked to UC trials in phase 2 and therefore to be included in the DoW ... but I haven't seen anything that I can share at this point. A rather quickly list of KPIs that we have defined and sent to the EC (indeed very much related with the above requirements) are the following: 1. number of FI-WARE GEs being used 2. number of applications from third parties experimented in the FI-WARE Open Innovation Lab that have been able to run integrated with the trial developed by the project 3. number of FI-WARE GEs being used that are deployed and offered "as a Service" on shared/federated facilities provided by the Capacity Building project 4. number of VMs allocated for execution of trial application components on FI-WARE Cloud provided as part of shared/federated facilities provided by the Capacity Building project 5. object storage capacity allocated for usage by trial application components on FI-WARE Cloud provided as part of shared/federated facilities provided by the Capacity Building project 6. average number of requests per day to FI-WARE GE APIs during execution of trials 7. average number of requests per month to FI-WARE GE APIs during execution of trials Values of all these KPIs should be benchmarked against: * min value established as minimum target at start of phase 2 * average value for UC trials in phase 2 * value in demo application to be developed by FI-WARE (this only applicable to KPI no. 1) Again, your feedback on them and input regarding additional KPIs is more than welcome. Our goal is that FI-WARE arrives with a presentation on our final requirements and KPIs during the workshop negotiation on Feb 4-5, ideally with a concrete draft text to be included in the DoWs of new projects in phase 2. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace situado más abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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