From mev at tid.es Tue Oct 1 12:08:35 2013
From: mev at tid.es (MANUEL ESCRICHE VICENTE)
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 10:08:35 +0000
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Agile dynamic - release and sprint closing -> request
for cooperation
Message-ID: <65CDBE2E7E5A964BB8BC5F4328FDE90B890B3627@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet>
Dear Partners,
Find linked the dashboards produced to capture the release and sprint closing.
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2859/FIWARE.backlog.apps.dashboard.20130930-1802.xlsx
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2860/FIWARE.backlog.cloud.dashboard.20130930-1802.xlsx
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2863/FIWARE.backlog.iot.dashboard.20130930-1803.xlsx
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2861/FIWARE.backlog.data.dashboard.20130930-1802.xlsx
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2862/FIWARE.backlog.i2nd.dashboard.20130930-1802.xlsx
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/27/2864/FIWARE.backlog.security.dashboard.20130930-1803.xlsx
After having a look at the burndown diagrams mainly, which show how items were closed over time, I see many GEi onwers didn't perform any action to close the release or sprint.
I'd need to know the reasons preventing those GEi onwers to close their items properly.
In general I think we need to come to the right agile dynamic as soon as possible.
I can also appreciate that some GEi owners in the following chapters Data, Security and I2ND did close the corresponding items properly, what I thank them for.
The agile methodology gives flexibility when you set up your backlog, it means at the sprint planning. Afterwards, it needs us to be diligent and keep committed to the backlog.
I wonder whether any of you had a chance to pay attention to the review report from the EC and read the comments related to the backlog.
I'll be following the agile dynamic closely so as to demonstrate the EC that FI-WARE is working properly. In these regards, next backlog deliverable may be structured on a GE Implementation bases with views of your burn down and flow charts.
In general, following the agile dynamic I think it's a shared objective, so I need to ask for your cooperation to overcome the current situation.
I'm also requesting the Work Package Leaders to include in your weekly agendas a time slot for backlog maintenance.
Thanks in advance for cooperation!!
If anything, please, don't hesitate to let me know.
Kind regards
Manuel
----------------------------
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Agile Project Manager/Leader
FI-WARE Initiative
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From markus.heller at sap.com Tue Oct 1 15:48:24 2013
From: markus.heller at sap.com (Heller, Markus)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:48:24 +0000
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter &
Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
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Hi Juan, all,
BTW do you or Juanjo have a statistics how many FI-WARE partners have indeed sent individual exploitation plans to EC after their first request immediately after the review? I am not sure if something about this is mentioned in the report who did or who did not, do you know?
Best wishes
Markus
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: Montag, 30. September 2013 15:59
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Dear All
We can summary the previous mail with the Recommendation 12, see below, so it is clear that they demand new confidential individual exploitation plans, but we have to confirm that this replaces the 11.2.2 resubmission, as they mentioned before in the Outcome document.
Recommendation 12 (Page 12- FI WARE Review 5 Report)
Provide a credible and precise exploitation plan for each partner who provides a GE implementation. Such information was orally requested by the European Commission Project Officer at the end of the Month 24 Review Meeting. The information must be submitted before the end of October 2013. It may be submitted by the partner concerned on a confidential basis to the European Commission Project Officer. It is expected that the exploitation plans will cover all GE implementations to a sufficient degree demonstrating business commitment.
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Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
+34 912148859
Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid
juan.bareno at atos.net
www.atos.net
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: lunes, 30 de septiembre de 2013 15:26
To: jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juanjo
Please find here enclosed the main comments on the exploitation side by the reviewers.
In the first document about the Outcome, I have doubts about what exactly we have to provide (see paragraph in red), exploitation plans by GE implementation of each owner?? In each individual exploitation plan define the exploitation plans by GE implementation??...notes that they said that the resubmission of D11.2.2 is replaced by this request for confidential plans, so resubmission for D11.2.2 is not necessary??.........but for sure we all have to work in a new and agreed version for next year review or we have to resubmit D11.2.2, right now, with the strategic vision we shared in the review properly included?
I enclosed you also the feedback on the individual exploitation plans form the FI WARE Review Report, I will come back with additional comments regarding exploitation an Action Plan needed, but first it is important to Know what exactly we have to provide by 31 October 2013, regarding exploitation
Thanks for your support
Juan
- 1_ Outcome FI WARE Review: (Page 3): Therefore, the Commission requests exploitation plans:
o For all GE implementations except the 16 above-mentioned GE implementations with open source software licenses, so for the 32 and other GE implementations that are not (yet) in the Catalogue. The cockpit contains several of those.
o To be provided by the GE implementation owner, irrespective of the type of organization, so commercial or not. Organizations that joined the consortium as a result of a competitive call for additional beneficiaries and their GE implementations are excluded.
o To be sent directly to the Commission.
o To be provided before 31 October 2013. In case no document is received by that date, the latest available version will be used, i.e. deliverable D11.2.2 or individual exploitation plans sent to the Commission after the last review meeting (the confidential ones).
o To be provided instead of the requested resubmission of deliverable D11.2.2. The review report requests a resubmission of D11.2.2 for month 30 . This is replaced by
this request for confidential, individual exploitation plans.
The received or latest exploitation plans will be evaluated. Use of the respective GE implementations by the phase 2 use case projects will also be considered. The result of this evaluation is that the prospects for future use of GE implementations will be assessed. It may lead to decisions to stop funding certain activities and allocate scarce funds to more promising areas for the remainder of the project.
- 2_ FI WARE Review 5 Report:
o Pag 4. In line with the above requested: Exploitation of project results by FI-WARE partners
? The (lack of) substance and concreteness for the vast majority of the individual exploitation plans, at Month 24, is totally inappropriate for the ambition of FI-WARE and incommensurate with the claimed business commitment to project results by the main partners, even to Vice-President Kroes. As for the previous period, there is no visible attempt to echo - let alone apply - the well-elaborated business and ecosystem analysis to the individual partners' own approach and planning regarding project results. The reviewers are exceedingly concerned about the dearth of concrete evidence of the business commitment of GE implementation owners, and the corresponding lack of concrete information and traceability of GE implementations in the exploitation plans of these owners.
- (Page 50)- Feedback regarding Individual Exploitation plans: D11.2.2 Exploitation Plan, including IPR Management
o Unfortunately, despite the repeated comments by the reviewers on this very subject, the specific company exploitation plans are still generic and in some cases bordering on being a "wish list". They all say positive things but lack specificity in themes, markets, applications, timeline, budget and resources dedicated to the success of FI-WARE. With a few exceptions such as those supplied by ATOS and Thales and to some extent Telefonica and France Telecom, the individual exploitation plans are largely a collection of wishes, expectations and high level aims
o In all cases, there are surprisingly very few references to specific GEs (or GE combinations) even by the owners concerned. In addition, they are a collation of single plans without any attempt to explain which type of synchronisation or coordination will happen among them and how this concerted effort will be coordinated, if any. There is not a single reference in the individual plans to the OIL, which is positioned in the generic part of the document as a key vehicle to "pave the way for a successful exploitation and sustainability of its [the FI-WARE project] results".
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Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
+34 912148859
Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid
juan.bareno at atos.net
www.atos.net
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro
Sent: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2013 15:33
To: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report
Dear FI-WARE partners,
Please find enclosed the report of the last review meeting.
I haven't had time to review it in detail, just a very quick reading of the summary sections. Overall, I'm satisfied with the results and I tend to agree with some of the points about which the review establish we should implement remedies:
* Improvement of the backlog management (this has led to rejection of the backlog deliverables and, most probably, the rejection of the Technical Roadmap deliverable).
* Deep and carefully revision of contents in the FI-WARE Catalogue, overall regarding the all which has to do with terms and conditions of usage beyond the FI-PPP
* Re-submission of Security Open Specifications. Apparently (at least considering those pieces I have read) this has to do with the IdM GE Open Specifications, so the good news is that we are already working to solve this issue.
More kind of a surprise to me is the rejection of the following deliverables:
* Deliverables linked the Tools chapter.
* Report on validation by Use Case projects.
* Exploitation Plan (given the fact that the consortium deliverable may be not satisfactory enough, but I was hoping that the individual exploitation plans shared in confidentiality with the EC had been more convincing ...)
We will need to read the review more carefully to understand the reasons why those deliverables have been rejected.
On the other hand, I'm happy to see that most of the chapter technical deliverables have been accepted.
Unfortunately, the review could not incorporate results of the successful launch of FI-LAB at the Campus Party Europe event, because this took place after the review meeting. If so, I'm pretty sure that the analysis had been more favorable.
This is a very raw analysis. Please don't consider it complete. We need more time to digest the whole report.
Let's make a more close analysis and come back with a detailed action plan.
Best regards,
-- Juanjo
-------------
Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital
website: www.tid.es
email: jhierro at tid.es
twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator
and Chief Architect
FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman
You can follow FI-WARE at:
website: http://www.fi-ware.eu
facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242
twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware
linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932
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Subject:
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Date:
Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:56:19 +0000
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Dear Mr Hierro,
Please find attached a copy of the outcome letter and review report of project 285248 FI-WARE.
Please acknowledge receipt of this letter.
Many thanks in advance
Best regards,
Vanessa Vanhumbeeck
European Commission
DG CONNECT
Unit E3 - Net Innovation
Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39
Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu
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From juan.bareno at atos.net Tue Oct 1 15:58:54 2013
From: juan.bareno at atos.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:58:54 +0200
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter &
Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
In-Reply-To: <393554EDCF801348BC53C7813C6CB73B19CAB1C5@DEWDFEMB14A.global.corp.sap>
References:
<393554EDCF801348BC53C7813C6CB73B19CAB1C5@DEWDFEMB14A.global.corp.sap>
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Hi Markus
Please find the list, regarding new confidential exploitation plans delivered after the review, below:
o TID- Delivered
o SAP- Delivered without any modification
o IBM- No news
o FT- No news
o DT- No news
o TI- Delivered
o THALES- No news
o ENG- No news
o INTEL- Delivered
o Atos- Delivered without any modification
o SIEMENS- Delivered
o NOKIA SIEMENS NETWORKS- No news
o ALCATEL- Delivered
o TECHNICOLOR- Delivered
o NEC- Delivered
Br
Juan
Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
+34 912148859
Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid
juan.bareno at atos.net
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From: Heller, Markus [mailto:markus.heller at sap.com]
Sent: martes, 01 de octubre de 2013 15:48
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; jhierro at tid.es
Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juan, all,
BTW do you or Juanjo have a statistics how many FI-WARE partners have indeed sent individual exploitation plans to EC after their first request immediately after the review? I am not sure if something about this is mentioned in the report who did or who did not, do you know?
Best wishes
Markus
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: Montag, 30. September 2013 15:59
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Dear All
We can summary the previous mail with the Recommendation 12, see below, so it is clear that they demand new confidential individual exploitation plans, but we have to confirm that this replaces the 11.2.2 resubmission, as they mentioned before in the Outcome document.
Recommendation 12 (Page 12- FI WARE Review 5 Report)
Provide a credible and precise exploitation plan for each partner who provides a GE implementation. Such information was orally requested by the European Commission Project Officer at the end of the Month 24 Review Meeting. The information must be submitted before the end of October 2013. It may be submitted by the partner concerned on a confidential basis to the European Commission Project Officer. It is expected that the exploitation plans will cover all GE implementations to a sufficient degree demonstrating business commitment.
Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
+34 912148859
Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid
juan.bareno at atos.net
www.atos.net
IMPORTANT - MAIL ADDRESS CHANGE - From now on, please use only mail address juan.bareno at atos.net .The former @atosresearch.eu address will be cancelled soon
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: lunes, 30 de septiembre de 2013 15:26
To: jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juanjo
Please find here enclosed the main comments on the exploitation side by the reviewers.
In the first document about the Outcome, I have doubts about what exactly we have to provide (see paragraph in red), exploitation plans by GE implementation of each owner?? In each individual exploitation plan define the exploitation plans by GE implementation??...notes that they said that the resubmission of D11.2.2 is replaced by this request for confidential plans, so resubmission for D11.2.2 is not necessary??.........but for sure we all have to work in a new and agreed version for next year review or we have to resubmit D11.2.2, right now, with the strategic vision we shared in the review properly included?
I enclosed you also the feedback on the individual exploitation plans form the FI WARE Review Report, I will come back with additional comments regarding exploitation an Action Plan needed, but first it is important to Know what exactly we have to provide by 31 October 2013, regarding exploitation
Thanks for your support
Juan
- 1_ Outcome FI WARE Review: (Page 3): Therefore, the Commission requests exploitation plans:
o For all GE implementations except the 16 above-mentioned GE implementations with open source software licenses, so for the 32 and other GE implementations that are not (yet) in the Catalogue. The cockpit contains several of those.
o To be provided by the GE implementation owner, irrespective of the type of organization, so commercial or not. Organizations that joined the consortium as a result of a competitive call for additional beneficiaries and their GE implementations are excluded.
o To be sent directly to the Commission.
o To be provided before 31 October 2013. In case no document is received by that date, the latest available version will be used, i.e. deliverable D11.2.2 or individual exploitation plans sent to the Commission after the last review meeting (the confidential ones).
o To be provided instead of the requested resubmission of deliverable D11.2.2. The review report requests a resubmission of D11.2.2 for month 30 . This is replaced by
this request for confidential, individual exploitation plans.
The received or latest exploitation plans will be evaluated. Use of the respective GE implementations by the phase 2 use case projects will also be considered. The result of this evaluation is that the prospects for future use of GE implementations will be assessed. It may lead to decisions to stop funding certain activities and allocate scarce funds to more promising areas for the remainder of the project.
- 2_ FI WARE Review 5 Report:
o Pag 4. In line with the above requested: Exploitation of project results by FI-WARE partners
? The (lack of) substance and concreteness for the vast majority of the individual exploitation plans, at Month 24, is totally inappropriate for the ambition of FI-WARE and incommensurate with the claimed business commitment to project results by the main partners, even to Vice-President Kroes. As for the previous period, there is no visible attempt to echo - let alone apply - the well-elaborated business and ecosystem analysis to the individual partners' own approach and planning regarding project results. The reviewers are exceedingly concerned about the dearth of concrete evidence of the business commitment of GE implementation owners, and the corresponding lack of concrete information and traceability of GE implementations in the exploitation plans of these owners.
- (Page 50)- Feedback regarding Individual Exploitation plans: D11.2.2 Exploitation Plan, including IPR Management
o Unfortunately, despite the repeated comments by the reviewers on this very subject, the specific company exploitation plans are still generic and in some cases bordering on being a "wish list". They all say positive things but lack specificity in themes, markets, applications, timeline, budget and resources dedicated to the success of FI-WARE. With a few exceptions such as those supplied by ATOS and Thales and to some extent Telefonica and France Telecom, the individual exploitation plans are largely a collection of wishes, expectations and high level aims
o In all cases, there are surprisingly very few references to specific GEs (or GE combinations) even by the owners concerned. In addition, they are a collation of single plans without any attempt to explain which type of synchronisation or coordination will happen among them and how this concerted effort will be coordinated, if any. There is not a single reference in the individual plans to the OIL, which is positioned in the generic part of the document as a key vehicle to "pave the way for a successful exploitation and sustainability of its [the FI-WARE project] results".
Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
+34 912148859
Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid
juan.bareno at atos.net
www.atos.net
IMPORTANT - MAIL ADDRESS CHANGE - From now on, please use only mail address juan.bareno at atos.net .The former @atosresearch.eu address will be cancelled soon
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro
Sent: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2013 15:33
To: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report
Dear FI-WARE partners,
Please find enclosed the report of the last review meeting.
I haven't had time to review it in detail, just a very quick reading of the summary sections. Overall, I'm satisfied with the results and I tend to agree with some of the points about which the review establish we should implement remedies:
* Improvement of the backlog management (this has led to rejection of the backlog deliverables and, most probably, the rejection of the Technical Roadmap deliverable).
* Deep and carefully revision of contents in the FI-WARE Catalogue, overall regarding the all which has to do with terms and conditions of usage beyond the FI-PPP
* Re-submission of Security Open Specifications. Apparently (at least considering those pieces I have read) this has to do with the IdM GE Open Specifications, so the good news is that we are already working to solve this issue.
More kind of a surprise to me is the rejection of the following deliverables:
* Deliverables linked the Tools chapter.
* Report on validation by Use Case projects.
* Exploitation Plan (given the fact that the consortium deliverable may be not satisfactory enough, but I was hoping that the individual exploitation plans shared in confidentiality with the EC had been more convincing ...)
We will need to read the review more carefully to understand the reasons why those deliverables have been rejected.
On the other hand, I'm happy to see that most of the chapter technical deliverables have been accepted.
Unfortunately, the review could not incorporate results of the successful launch of FI-LAB at the Campus Party Europe event, because this took place after the review meeting. If so, I'm pretty sure that the analysis had been more favorable.
This is a very raw analysis. Please don't consider it complete. We need more time to digest the whole report.
Let's make a more close analysis and come back with a detailed action plan.
Best regards,
-- Juanjo
-------------
Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital
website: www.tid.es
email: jhierro at tid.es
twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator
and Chief Architect
FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman
You can follow FI-WARE at:
website: http://www.fi-ware.eu
facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242
twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware
linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report
Date:
Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:56:19 +0000
From:
To:
CC:
, , , , , , ,
Dear Mr Hierro,
Please find attached a copy of the outcome letter and review report of project 285248 FI-WARE.
Please acknowledge receipt of this letter.
Many thanks in advance
Best regards,
Vanessa Vanhumbeeck
European Commission
DG CONNECT
Unit E3 - Net Innovation
Tel.: +32 2 296 49 39
Email: vanessa.vanhumbeeck at ec.europa.eu
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From pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com Tue Oct 1 17:31:32 2013
From: pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com (BISSON Pascal)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:31:32 +0200
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter
& Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
In-Reply-To:
References:
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Dear Juan,
One correction here. Thales did also deliver an update of our individual exploitation plan following EC review.
Thought it was communicated to you already but may be not.
In any case it is now corrected.
Regards,
Pascal
De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Envoy? : mardi 1 octobre 2013 15:59
? : Heller, Markus
Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Objet : Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Markus
Please find the list, regarding new confidential exploitation plans delivered after the review, below:
o TID- Delivered
o SAP- Delivered without any modification
o IBM- No news
o FT- No news
o DT- No news
o TI- Delivered
o THALES- No news
o ENG- No news
o INTEL- Delivered
o Atos- Delivered without any modification
o SIEMENS- Delivered
o NOKIA SIEMENS NETWORKS- No news
o ALCATEL- Delivered
o TECHNICOLOR- Delivered
o NEC- Delivered
Br
Juan
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From: Heller, Markus [mailto:markus.heller at sap.com]
Sent: martes, 01 de octubre de 2013 15:48
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; jhierro at tid.es
Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juan, all,
BTW do you or Juanjo have a statistics how many FI-WARE partners have indeed sent individual exploitation plans to EC after their first request immediately after the review? I am not sure if something about this is mentioned in the report who did or who did not, do you know?
Best wishes
Markus
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: Montag, 30. September 2013 15:59
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Dear All
We can summary the previous mail with the Recommendation 12, see below, so it is clear that they demand new confidential individual exploitation plans, but we have to confirm that this replaces the 11.2.2 resubmission, as they mentioned before in the Outcome document.
Recommendation 12 (Page 12- FI WARE Review 5 Report)
Provide a credible and precise exploitation plan for each partner who provides a GE implementation. Such information was orally requested by the European Commission Project Officer at the end of the Month 24 Review Meeting. The information must be submitted before the end of October 2013. It may be submitted by the partner concerned on a confidential basis to the European Commission Project Officer. It is expected that the exploitation plans will cover all GE implementations to a sufficient degree demonstrating business commitment.
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Research & Innovation
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: lunes, 30 de septiembre de 2013 15:26
To: jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juanjo
Please find here enclosed the main comments on the exploitation side by the reviewers.
In the first document about the Outcome, I have doubts about what exactly we have to provide (see paragraph in red), exploitation plans by GE implementation of each owner?? In each individual exploitation plan define the exploitation plans by GE implementation??...notes that they said that the resubmission of D11.2.2 is replaced by this request for confidential plans, so resubmission for D11.2.2 is not necessary??.........but for sure we all have to work in a new and agreed version for next year review or we have to resubmit D11.2.2, right now, with the strategic vision we shared in the review properly included?
I enclosed you also the feedback on the individual exploitation plans form the FI WARE Review Report, I will come back with additional comments regarding exploitation an Action Plan needed, but first it is important to Know what exactly we have to provide by 31 October 2013, regarding exploitation
Thanks for your support
Juan
- 1_ Outcome FI WARE Review: (Page 3): Therefore, the Commission requests exploitation plans:
o For all GE implementations except the 16 above-mentioned GE implementations with open source software licenses, so for the 32 and other GE implementations that are not (yet) in the Catalogue. The cockpit contains several of those.
o To be provided by the GE implementation owner, irrespective of the type of organization, so commercial or not. Organizations that joined the consortium as a result of a competitive call for additional beneficiaries and their GE implementations are excluded.
o To be sent directly to the Commission.
o To be provided before 31 October 2013. In case no document is received by that date, the latest available version will be used, i.e. deliverable D11.2.2 or individual exploitation plans sent to the Commission after the last review meeting (the confidential ones).
o To be provided instead of the requested resubmission of deliverable D11.2.2. The review report requests a resubmission of D11.2.2 for month 30 . This is replaced by
this request for confidential, individual exploitation plans.
The received or latest exploitation plans will be evaluated. Use of the respective GE implementations by the phase 2 use case projects will also be considered. The result of this evaluation is that the prospects for future use of GE implementations will be assessed. It may lead to decisions to stop funding certain activities and allocate scarce funds to more promising areas for the remainder of the project.
- 2_ FI WARE Review 5 Report:
o Pag 4. In line with the above requested: Exploitation of project results by FI-WARE partners
? The (lack of) substance and concreteness for the vast majority of the individual exploitation plans, at Month 24, is totally inappropriate for the ambition of FI-WARE and incommensurate with the claimed business commitment to project results by the main partners, even to Vice-President Kroes. As for the previous period, there is no visible attempt to echo - let alone apply - the well-elaborated business and ecosystem analysis to the individual partners' own approach and planning regarding project results. The reviewers are exceedingly concerned about the dearth of concrete evidence of the business commitment of GE implementation owners, and the corresponding lack of concrete information and traceability of GE implementations in the exploitation plans of these owners.
- (Page 50)- Feedback regarding Individual Exploitation plans: D11.2.2 Exploitation Plan, including IPR Management
o Unfortunately, despite the repeated comments by the reviewers on this very subject, the specific company exploitation plans are still generic and in some cases bordering on being a "wish list". They all say positive things but lack specificity in themes, markets, applications, timeline, budget and resources dedicated to the success of FI-WARE. With a few exceptions such as those supplied by ATOS and Thales and to some extent Telefonica and France Telecom, the individual exploitation plans are largely a collection of wishes, expectations and high level aims
o In all cases, there are surprisingly very few references to specific GEs (or GE combinations) even by the owners concerned. In addition, they are a collation of single plans without any attempt to explain which type of synchronisation or coordination will happen among them and how this concerted effort will be coordinated, if any. There is not a single reference in the individual plans to the OIL, which is positioned in the generic part of the document as a key vehicle to "pave the way for a successful exploitation and sustainability of its [the FI-WARE project] results".
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro
Sent: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2013 15:33
To: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report
Dear FI-WARE partners,
Please find enclosed the report of the last review meeting.
I haven't had time to review it in detail, just a very quick reading of the summary sections. Overall, I'm satisfied with the results and I tend to agree with some of the points about which the review establish we should implement remedies:
* Improvement of the backlog management (this has led to rejection of the backlog deliverables and, most probably, the rejection of the Technical Roadmap deliverable).
* Deep and carefully revision of contents in the FI-WARE Catalogue, overall regarding the all which has to do with terms and conditions of usage beyond the FI-PPP
* Re-submission of Security Open Specifications. Apparently (at least considering those pieces I have read) this has to do with the IdM GE Open Specifications, so the good news is that we are already working to solve this issue.
More kind of a surprise to me is the rejection of the following deliverables:
* Deliverables linked the Tools chapter.
* Report on validation by Use Case projects.
* Exploitation Plan (given the fact that the consortium deliverable may be not satisfactory enough, but I was hoping that the individual exploitation plans shared in confidentiality with the EC had been more convincing ...)
We will need to read the review more carefully to understand the reasons why those deliverables have been rejected.
On the other hand, I'm happy to see that most of the chapter technical deliverables have been accepted.
Unfortunately, the review could not incorporate results of the successful launch of FI-LAB at the Campus Party Europe event, because this took place after the review meeting. If so, I'm pretty sure that the analysis had been more favorable.
This is a very raw analysis. Please don't consider it complete. We need more time to digest the whole report.
Let's make a more close analysis and come back with a detailed action plan.
Best regards,
-- Juanjo
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Please acknowledge receipt of this letter.
Many thanks in advance
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From juan.bareno at atos.net Tue Oct 1 17:33:09 2013
From: juan.bareno at atos.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:33:09 +0200
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome
Letter &Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Message-ID:
Ok Thanks Pascal
Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of BISSON Pascal
Sent: martes, 01 de octubre de 2013 17:32
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; SIEUX Corinne
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter &Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Dear Juan,
One correction here. Thales did also deliver an update of our individual exploitation plan following EC review.
Thought it was communicated to you already but may be not.
In any case it is now corrected.
Regards,
Pascal
De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Envoy? : mardi 1 octobre 2013 15:59
? : Heller, Markus
Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Objet : Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Markus
Please find the list, regarding new confidential exploitation plans delivered after the review, below:
o TID- Delivered
o SAP- Delivered without any modification
o IBM- No news
o FT- No news
o DT- No news
o TI- Delivered
o THALES- No news
o ENG- No news
o INTEL- Delivered
o Atos- Delivered without any modification
o SIEMENS- Delivered
o NOKIA SIEMENS NETWORKS- No news
o ALCATEL- Delivered
o TECHNICOLOR- Delivered
o NEC- Delivered
Br
Juan
Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
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From: Heller, Markus [mailto:markus.heller at sap.com]
Sent: martes, 01 de octubre de 2013 15:48
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; jhierro at tid.es
Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juan, all,
BTW do you or Juanjo have a statistics how many FI-WARE partners have indeed sent individual exploitation plans to EC after their first request immediately after the review? I am not sure if something about this is mentioned in the report who did or who did not, do you know?
Best wishes
Markus
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: Montag, 30. September 2013 15:59
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Dear All
We can summary the previous mail with the Recommendation 12, see below, so it is clear that they demand new confidential individual exploitation plans, but we have to confirm that this replaces the 11.2.2 resubmission, as they mentioned before in the Outcome document.
Recommendation 12 (Page 12- FI WARE Review 5 Report)
Provide a credible and precise exploitation plan for each partner who provides a GE implementation. Such information was orally requested by the European Commission Project Officer at the end of the Month 24 Review Meeting. The information must be submitted before the end of October 2013. It may be submitted by the partner concerned on a confidential basis to the European Commission Project Officer. It is expected that the exploitation plans will cover all GE implementations to a sufficient degree demonstrating business commitment.
Juan Bare?o
Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy
Research & Innovation
+34 912148859
Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid
juan.bareno at atos.net
www.atos.net
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: lunes, 30 de septiembre de 2013 15:26
To: jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juanjo
Please find here enclosed the main comments on the exploitation side by the reviewers.
In the first document about the Outcome, I have doubts about what exactly we have to provide (see paragraph in red), exploitation plans by GE implementation of each owner?? In each individual exploitation plan define the exploitation plans by GE implementation??...notes that they said that the resubmission of D11.2.2 is replaced by this request for confidential plans, so resubmission for D11.2.2 is not necessary??.........but for sure we all have to work in a new and agreed version for next year review or we have to resubmit D11.2.2, right now, with the strategic vision we shared in the review properly included?
I enclosed you also the feedback on the individual exploitation plans form the FI WARE Review Report, I will come back with additional comments regarding exploitation an Action Plan needed, but first it is important to Know what exactly we have to provide by 31 October 2013, regarding exploitation
Thanks for your support
Juan
- 1_ Outcome FI WARE Review: (Page 3): Therefore, the Commission requests exploitation plans:
o For all GE implementations except the 16 above-mentioned GE implementations with open source software licenses, so for the 32 and other GE implementations that are not (yet) in the Catalogue. The cockpit contains several of those.
o To be provided by the GE implementation owner, irrespective of the type of organization, so commercial or not. Organizations that joined the consortium as a result of a competitive call for additional beneficiaries and their GE implementations are excluded.
o To be sent directly to the Commission.
o To be provided before 31 October 2013. In case no document is received by that date, the latest available version will be used, i.e. deliverable D11.2.2 or individual exploitation plans sent to the Commission after the last review meeting (the confidential ones).
o To be provided instead of the requested resubmission of deliverable D11.2.2. The review report requests a resubmission of D11.2.2 for month 30 . This is replaced by
this request for confidential, individual exploitation plans.
The received or latest exploitation plans will be evaluated. Use of the respective GE implementations by the phase 2 use case projects will also be considered. The result of this evaluation is that the prospects for future use of GE implementations will be assessed. It may lead to decisions to stop funding certain activities and allocate scarce funds to more promising areas for the remainder of the project.
- 2_ FI WARE Review 5 Report:
o Pag 4. In line with the above requested: Exploitation of project results by FI-WARE partners
? The (lack of) substance and concreteness for the vast majority of the individual exploitation plans, at Month 24, is totally inappropriate for the ambition of FI-WARE and incommensurate with the claimed business commitment to project results by the main partners, even to Vice-President Kroes. As for the previous period, there is no visible attempt to echo - let alone apply - the well-elaborated business and ecosystem analysis to the individual partners' own approach and planning regarding project results. The reviewers are exceedingly concerned about the dearth of concrete evidence of the business commitment of GE implementation owners, and the corresponding lack of concrete information and traceability of GE implementations in the exploitation plans of these owners.
- (Page 50)- Feedback regarding Individual Exploitation plans: D11.2.2 Exploitation Plan, including IPR Management
o Unfortunately, despite the repeated comments by the reviewers on this very subject, the specific company exploitation plans are still generic and in some cases bordering on being a "wish list". They all say positive things but lack specificity in themes, markets, applications, timeline, budget and resources dedicated to the success of FI-WARE. With a few exceptions such as those supplied by ATOS and Thales and to some extent Telefonica and France Telecom, the individual exploitation plans are largely a collection of wishes, expectations and high level aims
o In all cases, there are surprisingly very few references to specific GEs (or GE combinations) even by the owners concerned. In addition, they are a collation of single plans without any attempt to explain which type of synchronisation or coordination will happen among them and how this concerted effort will be coordinated, if any. There is not a single reference in the individual plans to the OIL, which is positioned in the generic part of the document as a key vehicle to "pave the way for a successful exploitation and sustainability of its [the FI-WARE project] results".
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro
Sent: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2013 15:33
To: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report
Dear FI-WARE partners,
Please find enclosed the report of the last review meeting.
I haven't had time to review it in detail, just a very quick reading of the summary sections. Overall, I'm satisfied with the results and I tend to agree with some of the points about which the review establish we should implement remedies:
* Improvement of the backlog management (this has led to rejection of the backlog deliverables and, most probably, the rejection of the Technical Roadmap deliverable).
* Deep and carefully revision of contents in the FI-WARE Catalogue, overall regarding the all which has to do with terms and conditions of usage beyond the FI-PPP
* Re-submission of Security Open Specifications. Apparently (at least considering those pieces I have read) this has to do with the IdM GE Open Specifications, so the good news is that we are already working to solve this issue.
More kind of a surprise to me is the rejection of the following deliverables:
* Deliverables linked the Tools chapter.
* Report on validation by Use Case projects.
* Exploitation Plan (given the fact that the consortium deliverable may be not satisfactory enough, but I was hoping that the individual exploitation plans shared in confidentiality with the EC had been more convincing ...)
We will need to read the review more carefully to understand the reasons why those deliverables have been rejected.
On the other hand, I'm happy to see that most of the chapter technical deliverables have been accepted.
Unfortunately, the review could not incorporate results of the successful launch of FI-LAB at the Campus Party Europe event, because this took place after the review meeting. If so, I'm pretty sure that the analysis had been more favorable.
This is a very raw analysis. Please don't consider it complete. We need more time to digest the whole report.
Let's make a more close analysis and come back with a detailed action plan.
Best regards,
-- Juanjo
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From markus.heller at sap.com Tue Oct 1 17:41:54 2013
From: markus.heller at sap.com (Heller, Markus)
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:41:54 +0000
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE -
Outcome Letter &Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
In-Reply-To:
References:
Message-ID: <393554EDCF801348BC53C7813C6CB73B19CAB61B@DEWDFEMB14A.global.corp.sap>
Hi Juan,
thank you for your info and best wishes
Markus
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2013 17:33
To: BISSON Pascal
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; SIEUX Corinne
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter &Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Ok Thanks Pascal
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of BISSON Pascal
Sent: martes, 01 de octubre de 2013 17:32
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; SIEUX Corinne
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter &Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Dear Juan,
One correction here. Thales did also deliver an update of our individual exploitation plan following EC review.
Thought it was communicated to you already but may be not.
In any case it is now corrected.
Regards,
Pascal
De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Envoy? : mardi 1 octobre 2013 15:59
? : Heller, Markus
Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Objet : Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Markus
Please find the list, regarding new confidential exploitation plans delivered after the review, below:
o TID- Delivered
o SAP- Delivered without any modification
o IBM- No news
o FT- No news
o DT- No news
o TI- Delivered
o THALES- No news
o ENG- No news
o INTEL- Delivered
o Atos- Delivered without any modification
o SIEMENS- Delivered
o NOKIA SIEMENS NETWORKS- No news
o ALCATEL- Delivered
o TECHNICOLOR- Delivered
o NEC- Delivered
Br
Juan
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From: Heller, Markus [mailto:markus.heller at sap.com]
Sent: martes, 01 de octubre de 2013 15:48
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; jhierro at tid.es
Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Reviewreport-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juan, all,
BTW do you or Juanjo have a statistics how many FI-WARE partners have indeed sent individual exploitation plans to EC after their first request immediately after the review? I am not sure if something about this is mentioned in the report who did or who did not, do you know?
Best wishes
Markus
From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: Montag, 30. September 2013 15:59
To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Dear All
We can summary the previous mail with the Recommendation 12, see below, so it is clear that they demand new confidential individual exploitation plans, but we have to confirm that this replaces the 11.2.2 resubmission, as they mentioned before in the Outcome document.
Recommendation 12 (Page 12- FI WARE Review 5 Report)
Provide a credible and precise exploitation plan for each partner who provides a GE implementation. Such information was orally requested by the European Commission Project Officer at the end of the Month 24 Review Meeting. The information must be submitted before the end of October 2013. It may be submitted by the partner concerned on a confidential basis to the European Commission Project Officer. It is expected that the exploitation plans will cover all GE implementations to a sufficient degree demonstrating business commitment.
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena
Sent: lunes, 30 de septiembre de 2013 15:26
To: jhierro at tid.es
Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FW: Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report-EXPLOITATION SIDE
Hi Juanjo
Please find here enclosed the main comments on the exploitation side by the reviewers.
In the first document about the Outcome, I have doubts about what exactly we have to provide (see paragraph in red), exploitation plans by GE implementation of each owner?? In each individual exploitation plan define the exploitation plans by GE implementation??...notes that they said that the resubmission of D11.2.2 is replaced by this request for confidential plans, so resubmission for D11.2.2 is not necessary??.........but for sure we all have to work in a new and agreed version for next year review or we have to resubmit D11.2.2, right now, with the strategic vision we shared in the review properly included?
I enclosed you also the feedback on the individual exploitation plans form the FI WARE Review Report, I will come back with additional comments regarding exploitation an Action Plan needed, but first it is important to Know what exactly we have to provide by 31 October 2013, regarding exploitation
Thanks for your support
Juan
- 1_ Outcome FI WARE Review: (Page 3): Therefore, the Commission requests exploitation plans:
o For all GE implementations except the 16 above-mentioned GE implementations with open source software licenses, so for the 32 and other GE implementations that are not (yet) in the Catalogue. The cockpit contains several of those.
o To be provided by the GE implementation owner, irrespective of the type of organization, so commercial or not. Organizations that joined the consortium as a result of a competitive call for additional beneficiaries and their GE implementations are excluded.
o To be sent directly to the Commission.
o To be provided before 31 October 2013. In case no document is received by that date, the latest available version will be used, i.e. deliverable D11.2.2 or individual exploitation plans sent to the Commission after the last review meeting (the confidential ones).
o To be provided instead of the requested resubmission of deliverable D11.2.2. The review report requests a resubmission of D11.2.2 for month 30 . This is replaced by
this request for confidential, individual exploitation plans.
The received or latest exploitation plans will be evaluated. Use of the respective GE implementations by the phase 2 use case projects will also be considered. The result of this evaluation is that the prospects for future use of GE implementations will be assessed. It may lead to decisions to stop funding certain activities and allocate scarce funds to more promising areas for the remainder of the project.
- 2_ FI WARE Review 5 Report:
o Pag 4. In line with the above requested: Exploitation of project results by FI-WARE partners
? The (lack of) substance and concreteness for the vast majority of the individual exploitation plans, at Month 24, is totally inappropriate for the ambition of FI-WARE and incommensurate with the claimed business commitment to project results by the main partners, even to Vice-President Kroes. As for the previous period, there is no visible attempt to echo - let alone apply - the well-elaborated business and ecosystem analysis to the individual partners' own approach and planning regarding project results. The reviewers are exceedingly concerned about the dearth of concrete evidence of the business commitment of GE implementation owners, and the corresponding lack of concrete information and traceability of GE implementations in the exploitation plans of these owners.
- (Page 50)- Feedback regarding Individual Exploitation plans: D11.2.2 Exploitation Plan, including IPR Management
o Unfortunately, despite the repeated comments by the reviewers on this very subject, the specific company exploitation plans are still generic and in some cases bordering on being a "wish list". They all say positive things but lack specificity in themes, markets, applications, timeline, budget and resources dedicated to the success of FI-WARE. With a few exceptions such as those supplied by ATOS and Thales and to some extent Telefonica and France Telecom, the individual exploitation plans are largely a collection of wishes, expectations and high level aims
o In all cases, there are surprisingly very few references to specific GEs (or GE combinations) even by the owners concerned. In addition, they are a collation of single plans without any attempt to explain which type of synchronisation or coordination will happen among them and how this concerted effort will be coordinated, if any. There is not a single reference in the individual plans to the OIL, which is positioned in the generic part of the document as a key vehicle to "pave the way for a successful exploitation and sustainability of its [the FI-WARE project] results".
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From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro
Sent: jueves, 26 de septiembre de 2013 15:33
To: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE - Outcome Letter & Review report
Dear FI-WARE partners,
Please find enclosed the report of the last review meeting.
I haven't had time to review it in detail, just a very quick reading of the summary sections. Overall, I'm satisfied with the results and I tend to agree with some of the points about which the review establish we should implement remedies:
* Improvement of the backlog management (this has led to rejection of the backlog deliverables and, most probably, the rejection of the Technical Roadmap deliverable).
* Deep and carefully revision of contents in the FI-WARE Catalogue, overall regarding the all which has to do with terms and conditions of usage beyond the FI-PPP
* Re-submission of Security Open Specifications. Apparently (at least considering those pieces I have read) this has to do with the IdM GE Open Specifications, so the good news is that we are already working to solve this issue.
More kind of a surprise to me is the rejection of the following deliverables:
* Deliverables linked the Tools chapter.
* Report on validation by Use Case projects.
* Exploitation Plan (given the fact that the consortium deliverable may be not satisfactory enough, but I was hoping that the individual exploitation plans shared in confidentiality with the EC had been more convincing ...)
We will need to read the review more carefully to understand the reasons why those deliverables have been rejected.
On the other hand, I'm happy to see that most of the chapter technical deliverables have been accepted.
Unfortunately, the review could not incorporate results of the successful launch of FI-LAB at the Campus Party Europe event, because this took place after the review meeting. If so, I'm pretty sure that the analysis had been more favorable.
This is a very raw analysis. Please don't consider it complete. We need more time to digest the whole report.
Let's make a more close analysis and come back with a detailed action plan.
Best regards,
-- Juanjo
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Dear Mr Hierro,
Please find attached a copy of the outcome letter and review report of project 285248 FI-WARE.
Please acknowledge receipt of this letter.
Many thanks in advance
Best regards,
Vanessa Vanhumbeeck
European Commission
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From jhierro at tid.es Fri Oct 4 01:14:30 2013
From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 01:14:30 +0200
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
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Hi all,
Please find enclosed the technical report produced by Lutz Schubert regarding FI-WARE GEs.
I haven't had time to review it carefully although in a very quick review I found several statements that suprised me and, mostly, it seems like a lot of the testing was made over versions of GEs which where not the ones delivered in release 2.2 or 2.3.
Nevertheless, I pass the report to you.
I have prepared a copy of the report at the following Google document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FVDmcUqamhfMhCDundzcrGwrLBYWF8xePUyic5Axr6A/edit
I would kindly ask you to review the report and, in cooperation with GEi owners in your chapter, add a response (please add text in Blue after commented paragraphs) to the report. This way, we can quickly get a response to this report. Afterwards, we can discuss whether it is suitable to send such response back to the EC.
Cheers,
-- Juanjo
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Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital
website: www.tid.es
email: jhierro at tid.es
twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator
and Chief Architect
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:37:43 +0000
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Dear Juanjo,
As indicated before, the assessment of prototypes during FI-WARE reviews is mostly based on the demos. I would like to have a better assessment of the prototypes, independent from the normal FI-WARE reviews. Therefore, Lutz Schubert from the University of Ulm (formerly with HLRS Stuttgart) has carried out this task.
His report is attached.
The report is the status as of 10 days ago, and might not be fully complete/consistent related to the Catalogue, the specifications of the wiki, etc. However, it does not make a lot of sense to try to perfect the assessment right now, as the report is clear of its main conclusions. A similar, second exercise could be done in (say) 6 months from now.
Best regards,
Arian
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From jhierro at tid.es Fri Oct 4 01:19:55 2013
From: jhierro at tid.es (Juanjo Hierro)
Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 01:19:55 +0200
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: date month 30 review
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Dear all,
Please find the answer sent to me by Arian in response to my question about a next review.
As you see, the EC asks for a 1-day review on non-technical matters during the week of December 2.
I reluctant to agree on the proposed week ... I would rather prefer the week of December 16th ... but, of course, this is a topic to discuss during our next WPL/WPA follow-up confcall.
Best regards,
-- Juanjo
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email: jhierro at tid.es
twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
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Subject: FI-WARE: date month 30 review
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:20:45 +0000
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Dear Juanjo,
The next review will be mostly about the new activities, the plans for life after FI-WARE, and not so much about the technical chapters.
It will be a 1-day meeting, in Brussels.
The best dates appear to be in the week of December 2, except Wed Dec 4.
Would it be possible to fix a date in that period?
Please let me know soon.
Please keep Ragnar and Vanessa in copy, as I will not be in the next few weeks.
Best regards,
Arian
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From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Fri Oct 4 08:38:05 2013
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Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 06:38:05 +0000
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
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Hi All,
I am also a bit surprised by this review especially because in many cases, it refers to release 2.2 software packages and not to release 2.3 (it is typically the case for IoT but also for many other chapter after a very quick reading). But I'm sure that Miguel can confirm what are the documentation and packages we sent to Mr Lutz Schubert (I have some emails at the beginning of August)
Recommendation 1: easy installation package... We did some progress especially in the SaaS approach with recipes but it was clearly not the approach following during this evaluation (stand alone evaluation)
Recommendation 2: I've raised this issue previously that we missed at least the architecture picture to understand why different chapters and how some GE can interact with some other. For the comment regarding inclusion of specific use cases per GE to illustrate how to use them, we can bridge this point with the missing white paper, but again we will change the content of the white paper, and it is not aligned on what we can find in any Open Source community website: use case scenario per component.
We can envisage easily on the first page an introduction for each chapter and the the list of GE per chapter and their role in the architecture
Recommendation 3: Clearly the catalogue was not the 1st priority in July and the content was not aligned with the R2.3 delivery BUT we do not have to explain compatibility between the different license models! If you want to know the compatibility between a GPL and a L-GPL today, you have to do this work yourself based on the documentation you have for the different licenses. What is clearly missing for some GEs is the license model and details.
So the weak feedback is for me globally related to the delays we had with release R2.3 (and I'm not pointing anybody for that, we are on the same boat) trying to improve everything for the Campus Party. And I'm sure that Future Networks and Ogilvy have some comments on our catalogue.
BR
Thierry
De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro
Envoy? : vendredi 4 octobre 2013 01:15
? : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
Objet : [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
Hi all,
Please find enclosed the technical report produced by Lutz Schubert regarding FI-WARE GEs.
I haven't had time to review it carefully although in a very quick review I found several statements that suprised me and, mostly, it seems like a lot of the testing was made over versions of GEs which where not the ones delivered in release 2.2 or 2.3.
Nevertheless, I pass the report to you.
I have prepared a copy of the report at the following Google document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FVDmcUqamhfMhCDundzcrGwrLBYWF8xePUyic5Axr6A/edit
I would kindly ask you to review the report and, in cooperation with GEi owners in your chapter, add a response (please add text in Blue after commented paragraphs) to the report. This way, we can quickly get a response to this report. Afterwards, we can discuss whether it is suitable to send such response back to the EC.
Cheers,
-- Juanjo
-------------
Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital
website: www.tid.es
email: jhierro at tid.es
twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator
and Chief Architect
FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman
You can follow FI-WARE at:
website: http://www.fi-ware.eu
facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242
twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware
linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932
-------- Original Message --------
Subject:
FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
Date:
Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:37:43 +0000
From:
To:
, ,
CC:
,
Dear Juanjo,
As indicated before, the assessment of prototypes during FI-WARE reviews is mostly based on the demos. I would like to have a better assessment of the prototypes, independent from the normal FI-WARE reviews. Therefore, Lutz Schubert from the University of Ulm (formerly with HLRS Stuttgart) has carried out this task.
His report is attached.
The report is the status as of 10 days ago, and might not be fully complete/consistent related to the Catalogue, the specifications of the wiki, etc. However, it does not make a lot of sense to try to perfect the assessment right now, as the report is clear of its main conclusions. A similar, second exercise could be done in (say) 6 months from now.
Best regards,
Arian
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From depa at eng.it Fri Oct 4 09:29:30 2013
From: depa at eng.it (depa at eng.it)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 07:29:30 +0000
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] R: Re: Fwd: FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
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Dear thierry and all,
I'm surprised you are surprised: clearly lutz made his evaluation on what easier available to him and this was 2.2.
If we all believe 2.3 fixes most of his comments, this is wonderful, otherwise we can his comments on board as most convenient and beneficial to us.
I tend to agree with the answer very positively provided by thierry!
In addition more requirements are requested for our catalogue: yesterday from the 1.8 infoday jesus asked to have explicitely mention which standards each ge is compliant with although i replied they are well mentioned and described in the relevant spec.
Ciao
Stefano
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From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Fri Oct 4 10:10:16 2013
From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:10:16 +0000
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
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Dear Stefano
My point was that the software packages were, in general (again very quick reading of Fi-Ware and Fi-Ware restricted files repository), available for R2.3 mid or end of July. I would clearly know what was the process for Mr Schubert:
1- Going only through the catalogue and use the links on catalogue pages (in this case the catalogue update could be the concern)
2- Using documentation provided by Miguel and additional direct links to find the right software packages in Fi-Ware & Fi-Ware-PPP-Restricted files repository
If the evaluation was only through what was available through the catalogue, catalogue update is always a major issue, and as explained during the last WPL meeting we have another inconsistency now with links to the public wiki which are not aligned with the downloadable version (and stable).
Catalogue shows release 2.3 when wiki pages are now describing R3.1 version.
Adding the standards in the catalogue will also add complexity: where is the best place for that because we should also simplify the number of window tabs we have.
BR
Thierry
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Envoy??: vendredi 4 octobre 2013 09:30
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Objet?: R: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: report by Lutz Schubert
Dear thierry and all,
I'm surprised you are surprised: clearly lutz made his evaluation on what easier available to him and this was 2.2.
If we all believe 2.3 fixes most of his comments, this is wonderful, otherwise we can his comments on board as most convenient and beneficial to us.
I tend to agree with the answer very positively provided by thierry!
In addition more requirements are requested for our catalogue: yesterday from the 1.8 infoday jesus asked to have explicitely mention which standards each ge is compliant with although i replied they are well mentioned and described in the relevant spec.
Ciao
Stefano
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From stefano.depanfilis at eng.it Fri Oct 4 10:36:52 2013
From: stefano.depanfilis at eng.it (stefano de panfilis)
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:36:52 +0200
Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Fwd: FI-WARE: date month 30 review
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dear juanjo,
i think arian is proposing that week becouse on 4th dec he will have also
the xifi review, so just optimisation from his side.
i do not mind to have the review in the same suggested week.
ciao,
stefano
2013/10/4 Juanjo Hierro
> Dear all,
>
> Please find the answer sent to me by Arian in response to my question
> about a next review.
>
> As you see, the EC asks for a 1-day review on non-technical matters
> during the week of December 2.
>
> I reluctant to agree on the proposed week ... I would rather prefer the
> week of December 16th ... but, of course, this is a topic to discuss during
> our next WPL/WPA follow-up confcall.
>
> Best regards,
>
> -- Juanjo
>
> -------------
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> website: www.tid.es
> email: jhierro at tid.es
> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
>
> FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator
> and Chief Architect
>
> FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman
>
> You can follow FI-WARE at:
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> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242
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>
>
>
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