From nuria.delama at atos.net Thu Oct 30 10:59:51 2014 From: nuria.delama at atos.net (De Lama Sanchez, Nuria) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:59:51 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-wpl] Iot and FIWARE alignment_New Meetup Group: FIWARE BELGIUM Message-ID: <79C5DE4D25832A49BAACBC6E798E3FDB141C35@DEERLM99EX5MSX.ww931.my-it-solutions.net> Hi all, Since I had so far several discussions with the IoT people in DG CONNECT, they included me in the IERC mailing list. That group is a very active but today an e-mail got my attention, since they talk about FIWARE. People from FIWARE involved in such discussions are Carlos Ralli and Thierry Nagellen (please, as already mentioned in previous e-mails, keep me fully updated on this). So far, the IoT/IERC guys complained about our lack of proactivity. Today I discovered that a new group called FIWARE Belgium has been created. See below. Some criticisms are pointed out, such as bad documentation and issues about licences (?). I have highlighted these comments in yellow. I think that better reaction from FIWARE is needed NOW if we want such alignment between IoT people and us? Best regards, Nuria From: Rob van Kranenburg [mailto:kranenbu at xs4all.nl] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:16 AM To: ierc at internet-of-things-research.eu Subject: Fwd: New Meetup Group: FIWARE BELGIUM Dear all, As our IoT IERC projects are getting closer aligned with FIWARE: Interesting development! FIWARE Belgium is not started by any of the EU partners but by an SME in Belgium. Note the fact that the documentation is not good and we also have to get more clear as to the licenses of Orange and Telefonica after the project ends. I also urged all of you months ago to start IoT Meetups in your cities. I don?t think anyone has done it but the partners in Sociotal.eu. This is the new middle that is being build where new formats of quality will be coming from. No one has the time to read academic papers. That output is rapidly becoming totally self-serving , a universe on its own, but not relevant for what is happening on the ground. But of course there are great insights there! If you want to keep pushing them, the Meetups are the place, Cheers! Rob Begin doorgestuurd bericht: Van: Meetup > Aan: kranenbu at xs4all.nl Onderwerp: New Meetup Group: FIWARE BELGIUM Datum: 29 oktober 2014 23:25:05 GMT+8 [Meetup] New Meetup Group! FIWARE BELGIUM LISTED IN: OPEN SOURCE, STARTUP BUSINESSES, WEB DEVELOPMENT, PHP, BIG DATA, AND 10 MORE TOPICS. [http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/9/9/5/e/thumb_134439262.jpeg] Organized by: Xavier Dekeyster Check it out! Not interested? A group for anyone interested in learning about and sharing knowledge on FIware, the "open source cloud platform". The group welcomes everyone beginners and experts, amateurs and pros, young and old, etc. I create this group because FIware lacks some good documentation and the learning curve is steep. We can share knowledge, experience and thus reduce frustrations. Welcome! 6 members have already joined including [http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/img/noPhoto_50.png] Glenn De Backer [http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/7/0/8/2/thumb_180808802.jpeg] Niels Vroman PHP Developer @ DX-Solutions [http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/c/e/1/a/thumb_110092762.jpeg] Ingrid FIWARE coordinator @ iMinds [http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/2/8/7/a/thumb_54130362.jpeg] Francis De Brabandere Electronic, baby! - Software developer | Tech enthusiast | Beer lover See all 6 FIDEVS Other Meetups you might like [http://photos3.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/c/4/2/e/thumb_411410222.jpeg] BootCircle - Growing our startups together 42 Bootstrappers ? Gent, Belgium Listed in: Startup Businesses, Marketing, New Technology, Web Technology, Web Development, and 9 more topics. Server Side Solvers! Tech Startup Lovers Meeting in Ghent 36 Beertrepreneurs ? 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Regarding documentation maybe we may send the links to the slides of the bootcamps training sessions plus say that there is an on-going action to improve the overall platform documentation as suggested by the EC but this will take some time for sure. For the licenses policy after FIWARE as a project ends I would like to ask directly to those guys which are the issues they claim they found. BTW, can an SME call themselves "FIWARE Belgium? ? I was not aware so far. Best regards, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Carlos Ralli Ucendo (carlos.ralliucendo at telefonica.com) Cell: +34696923588 Twitter: @carlosralli Blog: http://the-internet6.blogspot.com.es Telef?nica I+D SAU Madrid, Spain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Follow FIWARE project (Future Internet Services Core Platform): Website: http://www.fi-ware.org Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 Twitter: @fiware LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ De: "", "De Lama Sanchez, Nuria" > Fecha: jueves, 30 de octubre de 2014 10:59 Para: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.org" >, "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.org" > Asunto: [Fiware-wpl] Iot and FIWARE alignment_New Meetup Group: FIWARE BELGIUM Hi all, Since I had so far several discussions with the IoT people in DG CONNECT, they included me in the IERC mailing list. That group is a very active but today an e-mail got my attention, since they talk about FIWARE. People from FIWARE involved in such discussions are Carlos Ralli and Thierry Nagellen (please, as already mentioned in previous e-mails, keep me fully updated on this). So far, the IoT/IERC guys complained about our lack of proactivity. Today I discovered that a new group called FIWARE Belgium has been created. See below. Some criticisms are pointed out, such as bad documentation and issues about licences (?). I have highlighted these comments in yellow. I think that better reaction from FIWARE is needed NOW if we want such alignment between IoT people and us? Best regards, Nuria From: Rob van Kranenburg [mailto:kranenbu at xs4all.nl] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:16 AM To: ierc at internet-of-things-research.eu Subject: Fwd: New Meetup Group: FIWARE BELGIUM Dear all, As our IoT IERC projects are getting closer aligned with FIWARE: Interesting development! FIWARE Belgium is not started by any of the EU partners but by an SME in Belgium. Note the fact that the documentation is not good and we also have to get more clear as to the licenses of Orange and Telefonica after the project ends. I also urged all of you months ago to start IoT Meetups in your cities. I don?t think anyone has done it but the partners in Sociotal.eu. This is the new middle that is being build where new formats of quality will be coming from. No one has the time to read academic papers. That output is rapidly becoming totally self-serving , a universe on its own, but not relevant for what is happening on the ground. But of course there are great insights there! If you want to keep pushing them, the Meetups are the place, Cheers! Rob Begin doorgestuurd bericht: Van: Meetup > Aan: kranenbu at xs4all.nl Onderwerp: New Meetup Group: FIWARE BELGIUM Datum: 29 oktober 2014 23:25:05 GMT+8 [Meetup] New Meetup Group! FIWARE BELGIUM LISTED IN: OPEN SOURCE, STARTUP BUSINESSES, WEB DEVELOPMENT, PHP, BIG DATA, AND 10 MORE TOPICS. [http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/9/9/5/e/thumb_134439262.jpeg] Organized by: Xavier Dekeyster Check it out! Not interested? A group for anyone interested in learning about and sharing knowledge on FIware, the "open source cloud platform". The group welcomes everyone beginners and experts, amateurs and pros, young and old, etc. I create this group because FIware lacks some good documentation and the learning curve is steep. We can share knowledge, experience and thus reduce frustrations. Welcome! 6 members have already joined including [http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/img/noPhoto_50.png] Glenn De Backer [http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/7/0/8/2/thumb_180808802.jpeg] Niels Vroman PHP Developer @ DX-Solutions [http://photos2.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/c/e/1/a/thumb_110092762.jpeg] Ingrid FIWARE coordinator @ iMinds [http://photos4.meetupstatic.com/photos/member/2/8/7/a/thumb_54130362.jpeg] Francis De Brabandere Electronic, baby! - Software developer | Tech enthusiast | Beer lover See all 6 FIDEVS Other Meetups you might like [http://photos3.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/c/4/2/e/thumb_411410222.jpeg] BootCircle - Growing our startups together 42 Bootstrappers ? Gent, Belgium Listed in: Startup Businesses, Marketing, New Technology, Web Technology, Web Development, and 9 more topics. Server Side Solvers! Tech Startup Lovers Meeting in Ghent 36 Beertrepreneurs ? Gent, Belgium Listed in: Startup Businesses, Software Development, Entrepreneur Networking, Lean Startup, Web Development, and 3 more topics. [http://photos1.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/c/9/a/6/thumb_350451622.jpeg] Groeiatelier Meetup (Ajuinlei1-Gent) 31 Groeiers ? Gent, Belgium Listed in: Startup Businesses, Professional Networking, Business Growth, Venture Capital Firms, Entrepreneurship, and 8 more topics. [http://photos1.meetupstatic.com/photos/event/e/9/0/4/thumb_281999652.jpeg] MongoDB Belgium 247 mongo users ? Gent, Belgium Listed in: Big Data, JSON, Database, NoSQL, mongoDB, and 1 more topic. Startup Reading Club 34 Members ? Gent, Belgium Listed in: Startup Businesses, Executive and Business Coaching, New Technology, Reading, Professional Networking, and 7 more topics. Product Design Meetup 118 Designers ? Gent, Belgium Listed in: Innovation, Product Design, Interaction Design, Lean Startup, Product Development, and 3 more topics. Check out all 45 Meetup Groups near Gent ? 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