Dear Javier, sorry if I jump into the discussion but this is something me, as leader of the Wp9 should clarify. What a GE is will be up to each GE owner and each wp leader. If the Ericsson Composition Engine can be used a a stand alone application why not considering it a GE? If there is an instance of the engine running on the Testbed, why not considering this as a GE? It will be the GE providers (in line with the WP rule and policy) which should decide the strategy on what publish and how. The Catalogue is just a place where it is possible to _*sell and advertise*_ about the GEs the PPP stakeholders and not only. In this respect, we suggested to publish before those GEs available on the Testbed and later the other just to be aligned with the Testbed and avoid giving false expectations. I hope this clarify Best Matteo Melideo Il 24/07/2012 11:14, Javier Soriano (FI-UPM) ha scritto: > Dear Uwe, > > How can a GE (an abstract artefact) be available on the FIWARE Testbed? > > Am I wrong or is an instance of the GE (e.g. WireCloud Mashup > Platform) and not the GE itself (e.g. Composition Editor GE) what have > to be made available on the FIWARE Testbed? > > Who is/are the owner/s of both the Composition Editor GE and the > Composition Execution Engine GE? Ericsson as Task leader? Sorry if I > was wrong and should not have uploaded the descriptions :-( > > Best regards, > Javier > > 2012/7/24 Riss, Uwe <uwe.riss at sap.com <mailto:uwe.riss at sap.com>> > > Dear Javier, > > I have checked the WPL/W > > PA minutes, which say that GE owners are expected to "submit > description of GEs that will be available on the FI-WARE Testbed". > > That is the status. > > Best regards, > > Uwe > > *From:*Javier Soriano (FI-UPM) [mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es > <mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es>] > *Sent:* Dienstag, 24. Juli 2012 09:35 > *To:* Leidig, Torsten; Riss, Uwe > *Cc:* fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu > <mailto:fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu>; Rafael Fernández; Alvaro Arranz > > > *Subject:* IMPORTANT: About WP3 Composition GEs and the Catalogue > > Dear Uwe, Torsten, dear colleagues, > > Unfortunately, no one from UPM can attend today's conf call. We > will any case catch up through the minutes. > > Nevertheless, we have some questions and concerns regarding a > recent mail we've received (yesterday) from Osama Sammodi (from > WP9). Osama asked us to provide in the FIWARE catalogue > (http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/) information for the > Composition Editor GE we are responsible for. > > Uwe, could you please include this matter in the agenda for > today's conf call. End of July is a hard deadline to get it done. > > I think there is a general misunderstanding because most of the > entries in the catalogue represents products (i.e. instances) > instead of GEs on their own. > > For example, concerning WP3, Ericsson has already added the > following entry: > > --- > > > Ericsson Composition Engine > <http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/104> (http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/104) > > The Ericsson Composition Engine is a toolset for creating and > executing composed services and applications. It consists of a > Composition Editor and an Execution Engine. > > --- > > Which clearly (at least for me) represents one instance of the > Composition Execution Engine GE, but not the GE itself. Moreover, > the description references the actual GEs that instance > "implements": Composition Editor and Execution Engine. Am I wrong? > > The same occurs with other entries. For example: > > CEP GE refers to IBM technology: > http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/146 > > BigData Analysis refers to some components (SAMSON Platform, > MongoDB, Apache HDFS): http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/158 > > etc. > > The entries for "Service Description Repository" and > "Marketplace", IMHO, are by far the best examples and reflect > accurately the concept of GE. We should follow the same schema for > the rest of GEs, shouldn't we? > > For the time being, in order progress in the matter, I have > created two entries: > > > Composition Editor > <http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/166> (http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/166) > > UNPUBLISHED > > This Generic Enabler helps either the service provider or the end > user (prosumer) to create composed services (from the back-end > perspective) and application mashups (from the front-end > perspective), respectively, in a graphical way > > APPLICATIONS/SERVICES ECOSYSTEMS AND DELIVERY FRAMEWORK > > > Composition Execution Engine > <http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/170> (http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/170) > > UNPUBLISHED > > Exposes and executes the composed services which result from using > the Composition Editor Generic Enabler or are defined in a > execution language supported by the tool > > APPLICATIONS/SERVICES ECOSYSTEMS AND DELIVERY FRAMEWORK > > Please find attached a doc with most of the content I've created > for each entry. If you want to change or add anything, please let > me know. For the time being, they are "under revision" and I'm not > sure if you can edit my entries (to change the description of the > GEs, to include new instances, etc.) or even see them. If > necessary, I can share with you my credentials (user/password) > > I'm not sure about what is expected to be included in the > "downloads" and the "documentation" sections: > downloads/documentation regarding the GE? downloads/documentation > regarding each instance? For example, in > > > Ericsson Composition Engine > <http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/104> (http://fi-ware.cloud.labs.ericsson.net/node/104) > > Ericsson has included the "Ericsson Composition Engine, Advanced > Composition Editor User's Guide", which refers to an instance of > the Composition Execution Engine GE. Am I wrong? > > Best regards, > > Javier > > -- > ************************************************ > Dr. Javier Soriano > Dept. 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