[Fiware-apps] Packaging Planning

[koen casier]

Dear Markus,


I would propose to remove the delivery (b) as the SaaS is not a 
recommended approach (as far as I understood),
and in this way we keep the optimal set.


best regards,
Koen

On 2/24/2014 2:42 PM, Heller, Markus wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have added the following entry to TID's package list, but it is 
> poending your confirmation.
>
> @ALL: Please confirm that you all want to commit to this package (see 
> mail below)?
>
>       o Package 3
>           + *NOTE 24.02.2014: PENDING A CONFIRMATION FROM IMINDS, NOT
>             COMMITED YET! **AP on IMINDS TO CONFIRM ASAP*
>           + Name: BEMES: Integrated Multi-level business modeling and
>             simulation toolkit
>           + Lead iMinds
>           + Used GEs: Business Modeler, Business Calculator (there
>             could be possibilities to link to repository and/or RSS)
>           + Delivered as (a) 1 single VM image with installed +
>             integrated GEs to be offfered in FILAB as dedicated instances
>           + Delivered as (b) 1 integrated SaaS test-version online
>             (outside of the FILAB)
>           + Delivered as (c) a recipe for setting up an own version
>             and integrating both GEs together with integration testing
>             procedures
>
> Best wishes
>
> Markus
>
> *From:*Heller, Markus
> *Sent:* Mittwoch, 19. Februar 2014 16:01
> *To:* koen casier
> *Cc:* 'fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu'; Sofie Verbrugge; Camille 
> Reynders (Google Drive); tanguy coenen
> *Subject:* RE: [Fiware-apps] Packaging Planning
>
> Hi Koen,
>
> Thanks so far for your package description, looks good to me.
>
> Be aware, that the proposal goes directly to Arian from Juanjo, so 
> that we might either get the confirmations or we might even better 
> leave it out. But I really do not know what to advise you since I do 
> not know really how important this is played by Arian and Juanjo has 
> not told anything about this how serious such commitment would be if 
> given. I therefore personally would assess this as "no way back" 
> package proposal.
>
> For example, I need the confirmation by Camille and Tanguy urgently 
> then so that I can send this out to JH.
>
> Otherwise I mark this as "planned, pending final confirmation".
>
> àPlease can you Koen decide asap and mail me today if I should leave 
> it out (without confirmation Camille/Tanguy), insert it marked as 
> "pending", or leave out completely.
>
> We can say: I will delay this and send it tomorrow morning so that you 
> have more time, but then I need to send it (unless Juanjo changes his 
> mind). Maybe some packages can be named as candidates even 
> later....(do not know).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Markus
>
> *From:*koen casier [mailto:koen.casier at intec.ugent.be]
> *Sent:* Mittwoch, 19. Februar 2014 15:28
> *To:* Heller, Markus
> *Cc:* 'fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu'; Sofie Verbrugge; Camille 
> Reynders (Google Drive); tanguy coenen
> *Subject:* Re: [Fiware-apps] Packaging Planning
>
> Hi Markus, all,
>
>
>
> My first suggestion would be the following (note that this should 
> still be checked by Camille and Tanguy):
>
> package 3 - BEMES: Integrated Multi-level business modeling and 
> simulation toolkit
>     Lead iMinds
>     Used GEs: Business Modeler, Business Calculator (there could be 
> possibilities to link to repository and/or RSS)
>     Delivered as (a) 1 single VM image with installed + integrated GEs 
> to be offfered in FILAB as dedicated instances
>     Delivered as (b) 1 integrated SaaS test-version online (outside of 
> the FILAB)
>     Delivered as (c) a recipe for setting up an own version and 
> integrating both GEs together with integration testing procedures
>     TimeLine: R3.3
>     Comments:
>         Story: The installation in (a) allows for a quick installation 
> of a testversion in the FiLAB with all interactions between the tools 
> automated and/or relative to the server path.
>                     This will allow for the business modeling and 
> simulation tools to be setup in a one step process. The business 
> calculator as well as the business modeler both have
>                     a simplified and local storage repository for the 
> models and possibly this could be linked to the repository if 
> interesting.
>                     The installation in (b) allows for direct testing 
> of the front-end and the back-end functionality. This will allow for a 
> quick link with introduction of the tool,
>                     and will be complemented with course material 
> indicating how the tool can be used. Possibly here the link to an SaaS 
> RSS instance could be made.
>                     The installation in (c) is aimed at academic usage 
> (FRAND or free licensing) and commercial offers of the tool with a 
> local installation of the binaries (speed and privacy).
>                     The recipe and integration testing will help in a 
> quick and effortless installation here.
>
>
>
> best regards,
> Koen
>
>
> On 2/19/2014 2:11 PM, Heller, Markus wrote:
>
>     Hi Koen,
>
>     fine, this would have to be shipped as part of Release 3.
>
>     Please send until today asap a brief description of your new
>     package following the example template for the other 2.  I plan to
>     send it later today after EOB to Juanjo.
>
>     1) Package 3:
>
>     -Name: " " (focus is on XY)
>
>     -Lead: iMinds
>
>     -Used GEs: TBD
>
>     -Delivery: Please describe exactly, if possible. E.g.: "not
>     recipes. Delivered as 1 single VM image with installed +
>     integrated GEs to be offered in FI-LAB as "dedicated instances"
>
>     -FI-WARE Catalog Pages: iMinds creates them
>
>     -Timeline: TBD (Release 3)
>
>     -Comments:
>
>     nStory: Who does what and what is the benefit of packaging the two
>     together maybe
>
>     nTechnical details: only if needed
>
>     Best wishes
>
>     Markus
>
>     *From:*fiware-apps-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu
>     <mailto:fiware-apps-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>     [mailto:fiware-apps-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] *On Behalf Of *koen
>     casier
>     *Sent:* Mittwoch, 19. Februar 2014 10:20
>     *To:* fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu
>     <mailto:fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Fiware-apps] Packaging Planning
>
>     Dear Markus, all,
>
>
>     I was not able to attend the conference call yesterday as I was
>     traveling for the FTTH Council,
>     where I am currently presenting the business calculator GE work
>     and mentioning at the same time our work in the full BEMES project.
>     We will of course make a third package containing the linked
>     business calculator and business modeler GE's,
>     to be able to install as a single package.
>
>     When and where do we have to deliver these packages?
>
>
>     best regards,
>     Koen
>
>
>
>     On 2/18/2014 4:35 PM, Heller, Markus wrote:
>
>         Dear WP3,
>
>         In today's telco we have defined 2 Packages for the Apps chapter.
>
>         I plan to forward this list as our chapter's package list to
>         the coordinator on or after Wednesday 19.02 EOB:
>
>         1) Package 1:
>
>         -Name: "*Business Framework Provisioning Package*" (focus is
>         on provisioning)
>
>         -Lead: ATOS, Partners: ATOS, UPM, SAP
>
>         -Used GEs: COMPEL, Store, Marketplace, Repository
>
>         -Delivery: not recipes. Delivered as 1 single VM image with
>         installed + integrated GEs to be offered in FI-LAB as
>         "dedicated instances".
>
>         -FI-WARE Catalog Pages: SAP can create them
>
>         -Timeline: TBD (Release 3)
>
>         -Comments:
>
>         nIdentity Management is left out here (agreed) and is used in
>         package 2.
>
>         nStory: User uses Store to create an offering (including
>         adding metadata like WSDL link) and to publish it in
>         Marketplace. COMPEL users can find/search it and use it....
>
>         nTechnically: The service USDL includes as metadata a "link to
>         WSDL". COMPEL relies on this and can access the offered
>         service via WDSL
>
>         nEnhancement needed in Store so that user can add metadata in
>         USDL. Rest is integrated.
>
>         2) Package 2:
>
>         -Name: "*Business Framework Consumption Package*" (focus is on
>         consumption)
>
>         -Lead: UPM, Partners: UPM, TID, SAP
>
>         -Used GEs: Wirecloud, Store, Marketplace, Repository, RSS,
>         Identity Management
>
>         -Delivery: RECIPE-based solution that create/populates the
>         solution into FI-LAB to be offered in FI-LAB as "dedicated
>         instance (recipes)" (Plan B: like package 1)
>
>         -FI-WARE Catalog Pages: SAP can create them
>
>         -Timeline: TBD (Release 3)
>
>         -Comments:
>
>         nIdentity Management integrated already and mandatory (ensure
>         that same user performs actions)
>
>         nRSS is only available as a "Global instance" and would run
>         separately. The packaged GES access it via the URLS provided.
>
>         Please comment or add if needed to these candidate
>         descriptions per mail to mailing list.
>
>         If other WP3 partners would like to also propose their own
>         packages, you must do via mail to the apps mailing list until
>         *Wednesday 19.02. Lunchtime* latest (tomorrow).
>
>         I will send our list on or after tomorrow EOB to Juanjo.
>         Juanjo collects it and plans to send out an official mail
>         listing all planned "packages" in the chapters this week
>         (announced: Thursday 20.02).
>
>         Best wishes
>
>         Markus
>
>         *From:*Heller, Markus
>         *Sent:* Dienstag, 11. Februar 2014 16:31
>         *To:* 'fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu
>         <mailto:fiware-apps at lists.fi-ware.eu>'
>         *Subject:* Packaging Planning
>
>         Hi,
>
>         as in the telco, based on Juanjo's Mails from Monday on
>         packaging and our discussion today. We start a brainstorming now:
>
>         - packaging is not restricted to a low-level technical
>         integration of GEs or technical availability of a GE in FI-Lab
>         or else alone. It instead should be thought in a "business
>         sense", a solution package with identifiable Business Value
>         for a user of that package.
>
>         - we try to find a uniform method to deliver packages per GE
>         and start discussion now how this looks like.
>
>         - each GE owner can ultimately decide if he would like to
>         create one for his GEs. I recommend in light of making our
>         stuff more easily consumable and also Arian has emphasized
>         that he favors packages and really demands them.
>
>         I.*How does a package look like / how realized?*
>
>         "1 GE package"
>
>         - A document (PDF/Flyer?) with data to link to a instance on
>         FI-LAB
>
>         - business level address to the consumer: You benefit with
>         this business value: XY, it costs you:, yiou will save
>         time+frustration....
>
>         - licensing infomation
>
>         - contains written docu (e.g. compiled out of existing docu)
>
>         - webinar stuff somehow added
>
>         - What else?
>
>         "Multi-GE-Package"
>
>         - A document (PDF/Flyer?) with data to link to a instance on
>         FI-LAB
>
>         - business level address to the consumer: You benefit with
>         this business value: XY, it costs you:, yiou will save
>         time+frustration....
>
>         - licensing infomation
>
>         - contains written docu (e.g. compiled out of existing docu)
>
>         - webinar stuff somehow added
>
>         - What else?
>
>         - Attention: What if multiple licenses are affected. How do we
>         address that excactly?
>
>         *II. Who plans a package: Please add here if you intend to
>         deliver such and indicate when this will be really available:*
>
>         A."1GE-Package" Planned Packages per GE Candidates)
>
>         - SAP     Repository (M36)
>
>         - SAP Marketplace (M36)
>
>         - SAP     Registry (M36)
>
>         - (Yours)
>
>         - ...
>
>         B. "Multi-GE-Package" Planned bigger packages (candidates)
>
>         [...]
>
>         Please reply to the mailing list with us all in CC.
>
>         Best wishes
>
>         Markus
>
>
>
>
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