Dear Tanguy, I'm sorry for so long response for the Location GE, I've thought a little bit about that component, discussed it with colleagues and propose the following text that you may find in the section 3.1.3.2 of the https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/9/194/FI-WARE_High-Level_Description_Data-Context+Management+v1.4+23-06-01.doc document. If you agree with this you may integrate Thales' contribution there, maintaining that high level architecture and description. In this case we would have (in FI-WARE) and provide as a description to UAs: - Consolidated view over this component (LGE) accordingly to the rest of enablers specifically to the P/S broker; - "Free" version of the GE without a "vertical" or proprietary implementations peculiarities at this FI-WARE specification stage; - With all the functionalities that we might have from this LGE; - Both location assets, from TI and Thales are compliant with this high-level description, requirements, features and reference architecture. We may, as you suggested have a learning mechanism, indeed I've already added this into the description and we may have as well OpenCellID start, because I don't see serious problems there. Please let me know what do you think? Best Regards, Boris PS. I've added some new lines into the P/S GE description regarding the data/context cache and history optional features. From: Tanguy.Bourgault at thalesaleniaspace.com [mailto:Tanguy.Bourgault at thalesaleniaspace.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 2:11 PM To: Moltchanov Boris Cc: remi.challamel at thalesaleniaspace.com Subject: Réf. : Re: [Fiware-data] Details about bridge for our confcall on Localization Services Importance: Low Hi Boris, I took part of the conversation this morning about TAS Location Server. I looked at the opencellid data and although this was looking like a good starting point at the time I believe there will be limitations in using this database: 1- Number of cells is very limited and not located in Europe, 2- Cells are not identified using the complete set of cell identifiers, e.g. only location area code is utilised (MCC/MNC/LAC instead of MCC/MNC/LAC/CI), 3- No cell uncertainty is available. I guess the best way to have an autonomous database would be to implement a cell "sniffer", where the Location Server would request an autonomous GPS fix when the cellid is unknown and store the GPS fix against the retrieved cell information. This would require small development for us but could be easily demonstrated. Tanguy Bourgault Thales Alenia Space LBS Project Manager [cid:image001.gif at 01CC31B6.1694EF50]Moltchanov Boris <boris.moltchanov at telecomitalia.it> Moltchanov Boris <boris.moltchanov at telecomitalia.it> Envoyé par : fiware-data-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu 07/06/2011 12:16 Pour : "fiware-data at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-data at lists.fi-ware.eu> cc : Objet : Re: [Fiware-data] Details about bridge for our confcall on Localization Services Location platform may use www.opencellid.org<http://www.opencellid.org/> Just to have it send over all interested and traced in email exchange :). Best Regards, Boris From: fiware-data-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-data-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 9:40 AM To: fiware-data at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-data] Details about bridge for our confcall on Localization Services Hi, We can use powonow for our confcall on Localization Services scheduled at 10:00am. powwownow PIN 050662: If needed, we can use also webex (please find the details below) Best regards, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Meeting invitation: FI-WARE confcall Localization Services Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 09:00:03 +0200 From: Gestor i-Reunion webex9100 <messenger at webex.com><mailto:messenger at webex.com> Reply-To: Webex9100 at tid.es<mailto:Webex9100 at tid.es> <Webex9100 at tid.es><mailto:Webex9100 at tid.es> To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es> Hello , Gestor i-Reunion webex9100 invites you to attend this online meeting. 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