From juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu Fri Nov 2 14:30:41 2012 From: juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:30:41 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] FW: FW: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform StrategyValidation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Message-ID: Dear Colleagues Regarding Individual exploitation plans to answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual , most of you have already completed (TID, Intel, Engineering, Technicolor, NEC, Deutsche Telekom, Alcatel, Siemens), SAP and Atos are on construction and will be uploaded during the weekend, but we miss the ones from France Telecom, Telecom Italia, IBM, Thales and Ericsson, please provide ASAP as next week we will deliver the final version of the deliverable Thanks for your collaboration Juan From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 26 de octubre de 2012 11:56 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] FW: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform StrategyValidation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I remind you to review or complete the following missing inputs and provide feedback: - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis 2410 including in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy 24 10 document, including the questions from the review , see document, one with SAP comments, in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 o Additionally please review the FI WARE Platform Value Proposition and Business Canvas in the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Overall o IPRs section has been modified by SAP and will be completed by them according to the current discussion in the review report and the ongoing discussion between the legal departments. Review key principles into the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/IPR_Management o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2012 12:47 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; antonio.cimmino at alcatel-lucent.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Please find here enclosed the following draft documents in which we are going to leverage to complete the exploitation deliverables resubmission: - Platform Strategy Market Analysis, including main regulatory concerns for 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - FI WARE Platform Strategy, based on the previous analysis and on 3rd party and Vision deliverables for 11.2 Exploitation Strategy, pending to include some inputs from Product Vision deliverable in which 2-3 examples on how FI-WARE is applied in a specific domain (take existing UC projects) will be included Resubmission Roadmap: All Deliverables sent on the 8th November - 11.1 and 11.3 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - We will include some inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis before 29th October and we will circulate them to be validated before 5th November to deliver final versions - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy - We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy, including the questions from the review and initial Pro Forma Business Plan, with all your support and contributions on the 5th November and we will send it around to validate the final version to properly deliver on the 8th November. Actions required: Please review FI WARE Platform Strategy, initial draft version for discussion, preferably involving your business departments, leveraging on the previous Platform Strategy Analysis and on the questions from the review, and please add/modify what you consider in the document with "Track Changes" option and answer to the main questions from the review individually on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - , each industrial partner has a slot: o The objective is validate a common Platform Strategy as a whole and not as a loose collation of GEs- Agree on the value proposition o Identify the key segments, to avoid entering in the untenable situation of "FI-WARE is good for everyone and for every task"- "Two sided market"- End Users and Developers o Identify the main channels will be used to reach the various customer segments (Developers and End Users) and the marketing tools should be designed to be usable by the internal sales force. o Identify the right strategy to ecosystem management and consequently attract as much developers as we can o How , Telecom service provider, Network equipment and mobile terminal manufacturers, Software vendors, IT Providers and IT solution integrators will make money individually from FIWARE Platform? Licensing, advertising, selling apps, hosting service, increase data traffic, data storage o Provide some inputs for a pro forma analysis about potential market estimation and about initial cost estimates based on Test bed configuration - All your contributions for FI WARE Strategy definition document have to be received before next 1st November to prepare a final version to deliver before the 8th November Thanks for your contribution Juan Juan Bare?o Global Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. 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Name: ATT7164699.txt URL: From juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu Tue Nov 6 18:19:47 2012 From: juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=) Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 18:19:47 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] FW: FI-WARE: Periodic Report - M13 - M18 - WP11 (ATOS) In-Reply-To: <77A22C1085494D48B4018F06A40DB2C705EF0419@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> References: <77A22C1085494D48B4018F06A40DB2C705EF0419@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> Message-ID: Dear All, We have to provide the periodic report about what we have done in WP11, more specifically we have to report the achievements *from M13 to M18* Please complete your main contributions and Lindsay please complete the standardization part Can you please let me have *your contribution by Nov 7th* EOB Thanks Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ [mailto:jdps at tid.es] Sent: martes, 30 de octubre de 2012 23:09 To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Cc: Nuria De-Lama Sanchez; subsidies at tid.es Subject: FI-WARE: Periodic Report - M13 - M18 - WP11 (ATOS) Hola Juan. Por favor, necesito tu colaboraci?n en el periodic report del mes 18. Para ello te ruego me devuelvas el Word adjunto, habiendo recogido la informaci?n de cada partner involucrado y realizando una integraci?n y valoraci?n como WPL. (fecha tope el 9 de noviembre) As? mismo te pido que tengas en cuenta que en la planificaci?n no est? recogido el siguiente cambio previsto en el amendment 2: NEC 8,00 WP11 Reallocation of effort of NEC. Gracias. Salu2. Javier. De: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] En nombre de JAVIER DE PEDRO SANCHEZ Enviado el: martes, 30 de octubre de 2012 16:42 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu CC: subsidies at tid.es Asunto: [Fiware-wpl] FI-WARE: Periodic Report - M13 - M18 Dear all As you know we have to deliver the Periodic Report which has to give an overview of the third semester of the project (only months from M13(May12) to M18(oct12)). I will kindly ask you in another particularized e-mail to update as WPL the information about your WP: 1. Progress in your WP (with a detailed evaluation) 2. Update of deliverables in your WP. (they should have a link to the forge) On it you'll find the updated current effort at M17 and the planning at M18. Please note that the amendment 2 is still not approved and the planning is according to the current DoW. (I'll attach the changes in your WP on your particularized e-mail) Please take in mind that I haven't received any data from THALES. No THALES' effort from M13 to M17. As soon as I receive them, I'll send you an update (as well as I have the M18 effort for the all the partners). I recommend you to ask to your involved partner for their contribution before updating the document. Thank you very much in advance. I'll appreciate if you send this information by November 9th. Note: It is important to keep in mind that this is a draft report, because we'll need to update it with our effort at M18 (including October). So, I'll ask to your administrative person your current effort of October by the first week of November. You can send me an updated report whenever you want. (In this case, please use the doc with activated changes control) At last but not least, please, I kindly ask you to follow the template in order to have a homogeneous report as a team. In the last review report they said: Thank you in advance. BR Javier. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. Este mensaje y los ficheros adjuntos pueden contener informacion confidencial destinada solamente a la(s) persona(s) mencionadas anteriormente pueden estar protegidos por secreto profesional. Si usted recibe este correo electronico por error, gracias por informar inmediatamente al remitente y destruir el mensaje. Al no estar asegurada la integridad de este mensaje sobre la red, Atos no se hace responsable por su contenido. Su contenido no constituye ningun compromiso para el grupo Atos, salvo ratificacion escrita por ambas partes. 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In the meantime, we will continue working in the fine tuning of the deliverables during this week. Please find here attached the 3 deliverables in the Resubmission M18 folder and the missing contributions in the description below in RED https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual o FT, TI, NOKIA and THALES still pending - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o DATA and IoT still missing: Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned (TI and ENG) as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 26 de octubre de 2012 11:56 To: 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu); 'JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO' (jimenez at tid.es); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA (jhierro at tid.es); Miguel Carrillo (mcp at tid.es); Nuria De-Lama Sanchez (nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu); Carmen Perea Escribano (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Sandfuchs, Thorsten (thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com); matteo.melideo at eng.it; 'Stefano de Panfilis' (Stefano.depanfilis at eng.it); Amon, Peter (p.amon at siemens.com) Subject: FW: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I remind you to review or complete the following missing inputs and provide feedback: - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis 2410 including in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy 24 10 document, including the questions from the review , see document, one with SAP comments, in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 o Additionally please review the FI WARE Platform Value Proposition and Business Canvas in the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Overall o IPRs section has been modified by SAP and will be completed by them according to the current discussion in the review report and the ongoing discussion between the legal departments. Review key principles into the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/IPR_Management o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2012 12:47 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; antonio.cimmino at alcatel-lucent.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Please find here enclosed the following draft documents in which we are going to leverage to complete the exploitation deliverables resubmission: - Platform Strategy Market Analysis, including main regulatory concerns for 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - FI WARE Platform Strategy, based on the previous analysis and on 3rd party and Vision deliverables for 11.2 Exploitation Strategy, pending to include some inputs from Product Vision deliverable in which 2-3 examples on how FI-WARE is applied in a specific domain (take existing UC projects) will be included Resubmission Roadmap: All Deliverables sent on the 8th November - 11.1 and 11.3 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - We will include some inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis before 29th October and we will circulate them to be validated before 5th November to deliver final versions - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy - We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy, including the questions from the review and initial Pro Forma Business Plan, with all your support and contributions on the 5th November and we will send it around to validate the final version to properly deliver on the 8th November. Actions required: Please review FI WARE Platform Strategy, initial draft version for discussion, preferably involving your business departments, leveraging on the previous Platform Strategy Analysis and on the questions from the review, and please add/modify what you consider in the document with "Track Changes" option and answer to the main questions from the review individually on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - , each industrial partner has a slot: o The objective is validate a common Platform Strategy as a whole and not as a loose collation of GEs- Agree on the value proposition o Identify the key segments, to avoid entering in the untenable situation of "FI-WARE is good for everyone and for every task"- "Two sided market"- End Users and Developers o Identify the main channels will be used to reach the various customer segments (Developers and End Users) and the marketing tools should be designed to be usable by the internal sales force. o Identify the right strategy to ecosystem management and consequently attract as much developers as we can o How , Telecom service provider, Network equipment and mobile terminal manufacturers, Software vendors, IT Providers and IT solution integrators will make money individually from FIWARE Platform? Licensing, advertising, selling apps, hosting service, increase data traffic, data storage o Provide some inputs for a pro forma analysis about potential market estimation and about initial cost estimates based on Test bed configuration - All your contributions for FI WARE Strategy definition document have to be received before next 1st November to prepare a final version to deliver before the 8th November Thanks for your contribution Juan Juan Bare?o Global Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. Este mensaje y los ficheros adjuntos pueden contener informacion confidencial destinada solamente a la(s) persona(s) mencionadas anteriormente pueden estar protegidos por secreto profesional. Si usted recibe este correo electronico por error, gracias por informar inmediatamente al remitente y destruir el mensaje. Al no estar asegurada la integridad de este mensaje sobre la red, Atos no se hace responsable por su contenido. Su contenido no constituye ningun compromiso para el grupo Atos, salvo ratificacion escrita por ambas partes. Aunque se esfuerza al maximo por mantener su red libre de virus, el emisor no puede garantizar nada al respecto y no sera responsable de cualesquiera danos que puedan resultar de una transmision de virus. ------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 339 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 4064 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From ralli at tid.es Wed Nov 7 19:15:17 2012 From: ralli at tid.es (CARLOS RALLI UCENDO) Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:15:17 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9th November-Last Call for contributions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1971FF81B8E01C45991F6F92B9E3B2503F00F11E@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> Hi Juan, As we agreed in the beginning of this week I have completed the missing fields with regards to Data/Context. However, as we discussed the directives under "Security/Data" also apply. If my colleagues do send me more info I'll update the table before Friday 9th EoB as you say, otherwise consider it closed from our side. Best regards, -- ________________________________ De: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] en nombre de Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena [juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu] Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 1:01 Para: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9th November-Last Call for contributions Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I enclosed you the last draft version to review and provide some feedback or modify/include what you consider and the missing contents before this Friday 9th November EOB. In the meantime, we will continue working in the fine tuning of the deliverables during this week. Please find here attached the 3 deliverables in the Resubmission M18 folder and the missing contributions in the description below in RED https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual o FT, TI, NOKIA and THALES still pending - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o DATA and IoT still missing: Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned (TI and ENG) as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan [Description: cid:image001.png at 01CC3A4E.0D917B80] Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net [Description: Atos_Olympic_Games_Logo[1]] From: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 26 de octubre de 2012 11:56 To: 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu); 'JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO' (jimenez at tid.es); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA (jhierro at tid.es); Miguel Carrillo (mcp at tid.es); Nuria De-Lama Sanchez (nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu); Carmen Perea Escribano (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Sandfuchs, Thorsten (thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com); matteo.melideo at eng.it; 'Stefano de Panfilis' (Stefano.depanfilis at eng.it); Amon, Peter (p.amon at siemens.com) Subject: FW: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I remind you to review or complete the following missing inputs and provide feedback: - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis 2410 including in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy 24 10 document, including the questions from the review , see document, one with SAP comments, in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 o Additionally please review the FI WARE Platform Value Proposition and Business Canvas in the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Overall o IPRs section has been modified by SAP and will be completed by them according to the current discussion in the review report and the ongoing discussion between the legal departments. Review key principles into the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/IPR_Management o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2012 12:47 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; antonio.cimmino at alcatel-lucent.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Please find here enclosed the following draft documents in which we are going to leverage to complete the exploitation deliverables resubmission: - Platform Strategy Market Analysis, including main regulatory concerns for 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - FI WARE Platform Strategy, based on the previous analysis and on 3rd party and Vision deliverables for 11.2 Exploitation Strategy, pending to include some inputs from Product Vision deliverable in which 2-3 examples on how FI-WARE is applied in a specific domain (take existing UC projects) will be included Resubmission Roadmap: All Deliverables sent on the 8th November - 11.1 and 11.3 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - We will include some inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis before 29th October and we will circulate them to be validated before 5th November to deliver final versions - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy - We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy, including the questions from the review and initial Pro Forma Business Plan, with all your support and contributions on the 5th November and we will send it around to validate the final version to properly deliver on the 8th November. Actions required: Please review FI WARE Platform Strategy, initial draft version for discussion, preferably involving your business departments, leveraging on the previous Platform Strategy Analysis and on the questions from the review, and please add/modify what you consider in the document with ?Track Changes? option and answer to the main questions from the review individually on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - , each industrial partner has a slot: o The objective is validate a common Platform Strategy as a whole and not as a loose collation of GEs- Agree on the value proposition o Identify the key segments, to avoid entering in the untenable situation of ?FI-WARE is good for everyone and for every task?- ?Two sided market?- End Users and Developers o Identify the main channels will be used to reach the various customer segments (Developers and End Users) and the marketing tools should be designed to be usable by the internal sales force. o Identify the right strategy to ecosystem management and consequently attract as much developers as we can o How , Telecom service provider, Network equipment and mobile terminal manufacturers, Software vendors, IT Providers and IT solution integrators will make money individually from FIWARE Platform? Licensing, advertising, selling apps, hosting service, increase data traffic, data storage o Provide some inputs for a pro forma analysis about potential market estimation and about initial cost estimates based on Test bed configuration - All your contributions for FI WARE Strategy definition document have to be received before next 1st November to prepare a final version to deliver before the 8th November Thanks for your contribution Juan [Description: Description: cid:image001.png at 01CC3A4E.0D917B80] Juan Bare?o Global Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net [Description: Description: Atos_Olympic_Games_Logo[1]] ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 4064 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu Wed Nov 7 19:19:32 2012 From: juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=) Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 19:19:32 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9thNovember-Last Call for contributions In-Reply-To: <1971FF81B8E01C45991F6F92B9E3B2503F00F11E@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> References: <1971FF81B8E01C45991F6F92B9E3B2503F00F11E@EX10-MB2-MAD.hi.inet> Message-ID: Many thanks Carlos Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: CARLOS RALLI UCENDO [mailto:ralli at tid.es] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 19:15 To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9thNovember-Last Call for contributions Hi Juan, As we agreed in the beginning of this week I have completed the missing fields with regards to Data/Context. However, as we discussed the directives under "Security/Data" also apply. If my colleagues do send me more info I'll update the table before Friday 9th EoB as you say, otherwise consider it closed from our side. Best regards, -- ________________________________ De: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] en nombre de Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena [juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu] Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 1:01 Para: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9th November-Last Call for contributions Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I enclosed you the last draft version to review and provide some feedback or modify/include what you consider and the missing contents before this Friday 9th November EOB. In the meantime, we will continue working in the fine tuning of the deliverables during this week. Please find here attached the 3 deliverables in the Resubmission M18 folder and the missing contributions in the description below in RED https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual o FT, TI, NOKIA and THALES still pending - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o DATA and IoT still missing: Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned (TI and ENG) as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 26 de octubre de 2012 11:56 To: 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu); 'JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO' (jimenez at tid.es); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA (jhierro at tid.es); Miguel Carrillo (mcp at tid.es); Nuria De-Lama Sanchez (nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu); Carmen Perea Escribano (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Sandfuchs, Thorsten (thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com); matteo.melideo at eng.it; 'Stefano de Panfilis' (Stefano.depanfilis at eng.it); Amon, Peter (p.amon at siemens.com) Subject: FW: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I remind you to review or complete the following missing inputs and provide feedback: - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis 2410 including in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy 24 10 document, including the questions from the review , see document, one with SAP comments, in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 o Additionally please review the FI WARE Platform Value Proposition and Business Canvas in the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Overall o IPRs section has been modified by SAP and will be completed by them according to the current discussion in the review report and the ongoing discussion between the legal departments. Review key principles into the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/IPR_Management o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2012 12:47 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; antonio.cimmino at alcatel-lucent.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Please find here enclosed the following draft documents in which we are going to leverage to complete the exploitation deliverables resubmission: - Platform Strategy Market Analysis, including main regulatory concerns for 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - FI WARE Platform Strategy, based on the previous analysis and on 3rd party and Vision deliverables for 11.2 Exploitation Strategy, pending to include some inputs from Product Vision deliverable in which 2-3 examples on how FI-WARE is applied in a specific domain (take existing UC projects) will be included Resubmission Roadmap: All Deliverables sent on the 8th November - 11.1 and 11.3 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - We will include some inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis before 29th October and we will circulate them to be validated before 5th November to deliver final versions - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy - We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy, including the questions from the review and initial Pro Forma Business Plan, with all your support and contributions on the 5th November and we will send it around to validate the final version to properly deliver on the 8th November. Actions required: Please review FI WARE Platform Strategy, initial draft version for discussion, preferably involving your business departments, leveraging on the previous Platform Strategy Analysis and on the questions from the review, and please add/modify what you consider in the document with "Track Changes" option and answer to the main questions from the review individually on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - , each industrial partner has a slot: o The objective is validate a common Platform Strategy as a whole and not as a loose collation of GEs- Agree on the value proposition o Identify the key segments, to avoid entering in the untenable situation of "FI-WARE is good for everyone and for every task"- "Two sided market"- End Users and Developers o Identify the main channels will be used to reach the various customer segments (Developers and End Users) and the marketing tools should be designed to be usable by the internal sales force. o Identify the right strategy to ecosystem management and consequently attract as much developers as we can o How , Telecom service provider, Network equipment and mobile terminal manufacturers, Software vendors, IT Providers and IT solution integrators will make money individually from FIWARE Platform? Licensing, advertising, selling apps, hosting service, increase data traffic, data storage o Provide some inputs for a pro forma analysis about potential market estimation and about initial cost estimates based on Test bed configuration - All your contributions for FI WARE Strategy definition document have to be received before next 1st November to prepare a final version to deliver before the 8th November Thanks for your contribution Juan Juan Bare?o Global Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. Este mensaje y los ficheros adjuntos pueden contener informacion confidencial destinada solamente a la(s) persona(s) mencionadas anteriormente pueden estar protegidos por secreto profesional. Si usted recibe este correo electronico por error, gracias por informar inmediatamente al remitente y destruir el mensaje. Al no estar asegurada la integridad de este mensaje sobre la red, Atos no se hace responsable por su contenido. Su contenido no constituye ningun compromiso para el grupo Atos, salvo ratificacion escrita por ambas partes. Aunque se esfuerza al maximo por mantener su red libre de virus, el emisor no puede garantizar nada al respecto y no sera responsable de cualesquiera danos que puedan resultar de una transmision de virus. ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. If you receive this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and destroy it. As its integrity cannot be secured on the Internet, the Atos group liability cannot be triggered for the message content. Although the sender endeavours to maintain a computer virus-free network, the sender does not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and will not be liable for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. 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Best regards, -- ________________________________ De: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena [juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu] Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 19:19 Para: CARLOS RALLI UCENDO; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9thNovember-Last Call for contributions Many thanks Carlos [Description: cid:image001.png at 01CC3A4E.0D917B80] Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net [Description: Atos_Olympic_Games_Logo[1]] From: CARLOS RALLI UCENDO [mailto:ralli at tid.es] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 19:15 To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9thNovember-Last Call for contributions Hi Juan, As we agreed in the beginning of this week I have completed the missing fields with regards to Data/Context. However, as we discussed the directives under "Security/Data" also apply. If my colleagues do send me more info I'll update the table before Friday 9th EoB as you say, otherwise consider it closed from our side. Best regards, -- ________________________________ De: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] en nombre de Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena [juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu] Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 1:01 Para: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: [Fiware-wpl] Exploitation Deliverables Resubmission before 9th November-Last Call for contributions Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I enclosed you the last draft version to review and provide some feedback or modify/include what you consider and the missing contents before this Friday 9th November EOB. In the meantime, we will continue working in the fine tuning of the deliverables during this week. Please find here attached the 3 deliverables in the Resubmission M18 folder and the missing contributions in the description below in RED https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual o FT, TI, NOKIA and THALES still pending - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o DATA and IoT still missing: Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned (TI and ENG) as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan [Description: cid:image001.png at 01CC3A4E.0D917B80] Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net [Description: Atos_Olympic_Games_Logo[1]] From: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 26 de octubre de 2012 11:56 To: 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu); 'JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO' (jimenez at tid.es); JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA (jhierro at tid.es); Miguel Carrillo (mcp at tid.es); Nuria De-Lama Sanchez (nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu); Carmen Perea Escribano (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Sandfuchs, Thorsten (thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com); matteo.melideo at eng.it; 'Stefano de Panfilis' (Stefano.depanfilis at eng.it); Amon, Peter (p.amon at siemens.com) Subject: FW: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Following with the Resubmission of Exploitation Deliverables I remind you to review or complete the following missing inputs and provide feedback: - 11.1 Market Analysis o We will include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis 2410 including in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy 24 10 document, including the questions from the review , see document, one with SAP comments, in https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=16 o Additionally please review the FI WARE Platform Value Proposition and Business Canvas in the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Overall o IPRs section has been modified by SAP and will be completed by them according to the current discussion in the review report and the ongoing discussion between the legal departments. Review key principles into the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/IPR_Management o Answer to the main business questions from the review, individually by partner on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o Please provide some aanalysis relative to the prospective requirement specific to the developments of the future of the Internet, bearing in mind the project vision on the one hand, and dynamic market conditions on the other, which (may) pose regulatory challenges https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Policiy_and_Regulation_Awareness o Please complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localised achievements. o Preliminary contacts with cities (City of Malaga, Chamber of Commerce of Madrid) seem promising. However, a substantiated European dimension to this activity, with additional cities in other Member States, is missing. At the Month 12 project review, Trento was mentioned as a promising contact. https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Market_and_Policy_Regulation_Awareness#Market_Awareness Thanks for your collaboration Juan From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: viernes, 19 de octubre de 2012 12:47 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com; antonio.cimmino at alcatel-lucent.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-wpl] FI WARE Platform Strategy Validation and ExploitationDeliverables Resubmission Roadmap before 8th November Dear Colleagues Please find here enclosed the following draft documents in which we are going to leverage to complete the exploitation deliverables resubmission: - Platform Strategy Market Analysis, including main regulatory concerns for 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - FI WARE Platform Strategy, based on the previous analysis and on 3rd party and Vision deliverables for 11.2 Exploitation Strategy, pending to include some inputs from Product Vision deliverable in which 2-3 examples on how FI-WARE is applied in a specific domain (take existing UC projects) will be included Resubmission Roadmap: All Deliverables sent on the 8th November - 11.1 and 11.3 11.1 Market Analysis and 11.3 Policy and Regulation issues - We will include some inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis before 29th October and we will circulate them to be validated before 5th November to deliver final versions - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy - We will include the FI WARE Platform Strategy, including the questions from the review and initial Pro Forma Business Plan, with all your support and contributions on the 5th November and we will send it around to validate the final version to properly deliver on the 8th November. Actions required: Please review FI WARE Platform Strategy, initial draft version for discussion, preferably involving your business departments, leveraging on the previous Platform Strategy Analysis and on the questions from the review, and please add/modify what you consider in the document with ?Track Changes? option and answer to the main questions from the review individually on the wiki https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - , each industrial partner has a slot: o The objective is validate a common Platform Strategy as a whole and not as a loose collation of GEs- Agree on the value proposition o Identify the key segments, to avoid entering in the untenable situation of ?FI-WARE is good for everyone and for every task?- ?Two sided market?- End Users and Developers o Identify the main channels will be used to reach the various customer segments (Developers and End Users) and the marketing tools should be designed to be usable by the internal sales force. o Identify the right strategy to ecosystem management and consequently attract as much developers as we can o How , Telecom service provider, Network equipment and mobile terminal manufacturers, Software vendors, IT Providers and IT solution integrators will make money individually from FIWARE Platform? 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ICT markets as particular platform markets (convergence, not limited to Telcos..)- include additional inputs from Platform Strategy Market Analysis ? 4 FI WARE vision, according to the one described in 3rd party development document ? 5 FI WARE offering, actualizing the Apps chapter (Apple, Google, Facebook,..)and we actualize some economic data regarding smarts phones penetration and number of apps available in each app store ? 6 FI WARE Platform value proposition, SWOT and Impact - 11.2 Exploitation Strategy o 2.2 Introduce FI WARE Strategy: link with D11.1 and FI WARE Strategy definition o 3.3 FI WARE Instance concept o 4. Initial Marketing Plan- based on individual exploitation plans that intends to answer the main business questions from the review o 5. Initial Business Model Definition o Annex- Individual Exploitation Plans with additional business info https://forge.fi-ware.eu/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/exploitation/index.php/Individual - 11.3 Market and Policy Regulation Awareness o Include recommendations from the June Review: ? 3.2- Complete more additional contacts with European cities to wide geographic extension, and intensification for concrete (multi-)localized achievements. ? 4.1 Link with Platform Market analysis regarding Strategies ? 4.1.2 Digital Agenda ? 4.2 Platform types and Regulatory concerns ? 4.3 FI WARE main regulatory challenges ? 4.3.1 FI-WARE chapters technological regulatory challenges ? 4.5 Tools for regulatory intervention Tomorrow we will carry out the final review, including also the FI-WARE format layout, prior to deliver them by EOB, so any comments or suggestions will be accepted before their final deliver Br Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net ------------------------------------------------------------------ This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee; it may also be privileged. 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I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image002.png at 01CDC1C2.8C41A160] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? BR -- Jose Jimenez Telef?nica I+D Tf +34 914 832 660 jimenez at tid.es ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 14 12:15:51 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 11:15:51 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects References: Message-ID: Dear all I see no responses to my proposal of a short audio to review the strategy for the review. I have had a short audio with Juan preparing the review, You can see the main conclusions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# If you think we should have a audio discussion, please feel free to suggest the time ( I can do it this afternoon and tomorrow). Otherwise, please see the plan in the google docs and propose changes. We shall send you a new version of the presentations by Monday BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 9:22 Para: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Asunto: RE: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? BR -- Jose Jimenez Telef?nica I+D Tf +34 914 832 660 jimenez at tid.es ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Wed Nov 14 13:03:49 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:03:49 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004940@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Jose, thank you very much for the offer to have an alignment of the "key messages" . I have established a doodle-poll to find a timeslot for this discussion http://doodle.com/fgpt2565c5pdkn9i It would be very helpful if you can provide your answer until tomorrow 15:00. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 12:16 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all I see no responses to my proposal of a short audio to review the strategy for the review. I have had a short audio with Juan preparing the review, You can see the main conclusions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# If you think we should have a audio discussion, please feel free to suggest the time ( I can do it this afternoon and tomorrow). Otherwise, please see the plan in the google docs and propose changes. We shall send you a new version of the presentations by Monday BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 9:22 Para: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Asunto: RE: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? BR -- Jose Jimenez Telef?nica I+D Tf +34 914 832 660 jimenez at tid.es ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 14 13:18:02 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:18:02 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004940@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004940@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: I have answered the doodle, but I am afraid I have a very crowded agenda for next week. I'd rather do it this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 13:04 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO CC: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear Jose, thank you very much for the offer to have an alignment of the "key messages" . I have established a doodle-poll to find a timeslot for this discussion http://doodle.com/fgpt2565c5pdkn9i It would be very helpful if you can provide your answer until tomorrow 15:00. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 12:16 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all I see no responses to my proposal of a short audio to review the strategy for the review. I have had a short audio with Juan preparing the review, You can see the main conclusions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# If you think we should have a audio discussion, please feel free to suggest the time ( I can do it this afternoon and tomorrow). Otherwise, please see the plan in the google docs and propose changes. We shall send you a new version of the presentations by Monday BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 9:22 Para: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Asunto: RE: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? BR -- Jose Jimenez Telef?nica I+D Tf +34 914 832 660 jimenez at tid.es ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Wed Nov 14 13:53:00 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 13:53:00 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects In-Reply-To: References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004940@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004AA8@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Jose, thank you for the hint, I have already extended the poll accordingly. Hopefully one of the new timeslots fits better. Best regards, Axel From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 13:18 To: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects I have answered the doodle, but I am afraid I have a very crowded agenda for next week. I'd rather do it this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 13:04 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO CC: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear Jose, thank you very much for the offer to have an alignment of the "key messages" . I have established a doodle-poll to find a timeslot for this discussion http://doodle.com/fgpt2565c5pdkn9i It would be very helpful if you can provide your answer until tomorrow 15:00. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 12:16 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all I see no responses to my proposal of a short audio to review the strategy for the review. I have had a short audio with Juan preparing the review, You can see the main conclusions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# If you think we should have a audio discussion, please feel free to suggest the time ( I can do it this afternoon and tomorrow). Otherwise, please see the plan in the google docs and propose changes. We shall send you a new version of the presentations by Monday BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 9:22 Para: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Asunto: RE: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? BR -- Jose Jimenez Telef?nica I+D Tf +34 914 832 660 jimenez at tid.es ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Wed Nov 14 14:48:58 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:48:58 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004BB6@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Jose, if this presentation is planned to be presented during our Review, I would suggest to add some links to the Seville presentations and/or the "related" information within the WIKI. This might be helpful for the reviewers to understand the "messages" of the companies. What do you think about this idea? Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 09:25 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? BR -- Jose Jimenez Telef?nica I+D Tf +34 914 832 660 jimenez at tid.es ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 14 15:50:11 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:50:11 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004BB6@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004BB6@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear Axel The presentation is essentially a summary of the main messages of the deliverables. It is not intended to cover all the information (which is indeed included into the deliverables themselves). Certainly, we can add links, but this is somewhat redundant, since the presentation is not holding in itself We can debate whether we can really compress the main messages just in one or two slides, but a link in a presentation which is complementary of a presentation I think is not necessary BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 14:49 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO CC: 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu' Asunto: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear Jose, if this presentation is planned to be presented during our Review, I would suggest to add some links to the Seville presentations and/or the "related" information within the WIKI. This might be helpful for the reviewers to understand the "messages" of the companies. What do you think about this idea? Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 09:25 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? BR -- Jose Jimenez Telef?nica I+D Tf +34 914 832 660 jimenez at tid.es ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jimenez at tid.es Thu Nov 15 08:46:37 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 07:46:37 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects In-Reply-To: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004940@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004940@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear all After having a quick look at Axel's doodle, I propose we talk today at 15.00. I know Pier may have difficulties, Really sorry, but it seems impossible to have everybody. Definitely we cannot miss Juan. Axel, can you provide the facilities?. Otherwise we use powwownow. Thank you From: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 13:04 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear Jose, thank you very much for the offer to have an alignment of the "key messages" . I have established a doodle-poll to find a timeslot for this discussion http://doodle.com/fgpt2565c5pdkn9i It would be very helpful if you can provide your answer until tomorrow 15:00. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 12:16 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all I see no responses to my proposal of a short audio to review the strategy for the review. I have had a short audio with Juan preparing the review, You can see the main conclusions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# If you think we should have a audio discussion, please feel free to suggest the time ( I can do it this afternoon and tomorrow). Otherwise, please see the plan in the google docs and propose changes. We shall send you a new version of the presentations by Monday BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 9:22 Para: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Asunto: RE: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? 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URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Thu Nov 15 08:58:37 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 08:58:37 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] R: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects In-Reply-To: References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636175004940@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear Jose, indeed I cannot attend the call today afternoon. However if you are available at around 11:30-12:00, I could call you for a short talk on the topics you'll discuss later. BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Inviato: gioved? 15 novembre 2012 08:47 A: Fasse, Axel Cc: 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu' Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all After having a quick look at Axel's doodle, I propose we talk today at 15.00. I know Pier may have difficulties, Really sorry, but it seems impossible to have everybody. Definitely we cannot miss Juan. Axel, can you provide the facilities?. Otherwise we use powwownow. Thank you From: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 13:04 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear Jose, thank you very much for the offer to have an alignment of the "key messages" . I have established a doodle-poll to find a timeslot for this discussion http://doodle.com/fgpt2565c5pdkn9i It would be very helpful if you can provide your answer until tomorrow 15:00. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 12:16 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all I see no responses to my proposal of a short audio to review the strategy for the review. I have had a short audio with Juan preparing the review, You can see the main conclusions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# If you think we should have a audio discussion, please feel free to suggest the time ( I can do it this afternoon and tomorrow). Otherwise, please see the plan in the google docs and propose changes. We shall send you a new version of the presentations by Monday BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 9:22 Para: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Asunto: RE: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday - attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? 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Commercial aspects Dear all After having a quick look at Axel?s doodle, I propose we talk today at 15.00. I know Pier may have difficulties, Really sorry, but it seems impossible to have everybody. Definitely we cannot miss Juan. Axel, can you provide the facilities?. Otherwise we use powwownow. Thank you From: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 13:04 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear Jose, thank you very much for the offer to have an alignment of the ?key messages? . I have established a doodle-poll to find a timeslot for this discussion http://doodle.com/fgpt2565c5pdkn9i It would be very helpful if you can provide your answer until tomorrow 15:00. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 14. November 2012 12:16 To: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all I see no responses to my proposal of a short audio to review the strategy for the review. I have had a short audio with Juan preparing the review, You can see the main conclusions at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# If you think we should have a audio discussion, please feel free to suggest the time ( I can do it this afternoon and tomorrow). Otherwise, please see the plan in the google docs and propose changes. We shall send you a new version of the presentations by Monday BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 9:22 Para: 'fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; 'fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu'; MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO Asunto: RE: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all Connected to this issue, I think it may be useful to present a summary of the exploitation plans of the different partners. We could go very briefly at the review through that I have created a short summary of what you have informed. https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_46 1) Please review/change the data 2) Suggestions on the best way to present it Note: I am not sure if the current list is reaching all interested parties. Could you (Miguel, Juan) check that? Please do not forget about the mail I sent yesterday ? attached (regarding a possible audio today to review commercialization strategy) BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 13 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; 'Carmen Perea Escribano' (carmen.perea at atosresearch.eu); Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: Preparation of review. Commercial aspects Dear all As agreed in the WPL meeting, we need to start preparing commercial part of the review. See link I have prepared an initial list of items to be considered. See https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit# As indicated, I think we need to have presentations of all relevant companies that were not present in Seville. (just a short overview) We could have a short meeting to discuss it Wednesday or Thursday afternoon if you have comments. Would it be possible tomorrow at 16.00? 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BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC343.168CBE00] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From jimenez at tid.es Thu Nov 15 15:20:54 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 14:20:54 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC344.CB7A1320] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Wed Nov 14 08:43:30 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:43:30 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC244.1F0E54D0] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From jimenez at tid.es Tue Nov 20 17:57:16 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 16:57:16 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC748.0EE9D2B0] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [rispetta l'ambiente]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.png Type: image/png Size: 42878 bytes Desc: image001.png URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it Tue Nov 20 22:06:25 2012 From: pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it (Garino Pierangelo) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 22:06:25 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] R: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Dear Jose, I cannot make any modification to the slides at the link you have given. However I already made some change for TI description at the following link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_36 Since the contents appear the same, I suggest to remove the duplication of shared slides, and keep only those which allow modifications by the partners (assuming this was the expected purpose). BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: marted? 20 novembre 2012 17:57 A: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC76B.486E03D0] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: image002.gif Type: image/gif Size: 677 bytes Desc: image002.gif URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 21 08:06:05 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 07:06:05 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Dear all We have detected a small problem with the google presentation (it does not allow changes, due to an internal conversion). Please use the presentation attached to make changes Sorry for the troubles. Please send me the proposed modifications BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 20 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7BE.C1C77380] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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Name: FI WARE WP11 Review- individual.pptx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation Size: 108661 bytes Desc: FI WARE WP11 Review- individual.pptx URL: From axel.fasse at sap.com Wed Nov 21 08:40:07 2012 From: axel.fasse at sap.com (Fasse, Axel) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:40:07 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176ABFBB8@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Dear Jose, thank you for your support to solve this issue. You will find the SAP Contribution within the attached PPT-File. Hopefully we have solved this issue now finally. Best regards, Axel From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 08:06 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-pcc] [Fiware-exploitation] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear all We have detected a small problem with the google presentation (it does not allow changes, due to an internal conversion). Please use the presentation attached to make changes Sorry for the troubles. Please send me the proposed modifications BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: martes, 20 de noviembre de 2012 17:54 Para: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7C3.CE66B4C0] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. La diffusione, copia o qualsiasi altra azione derivante dalla conoscenza di queste informazioni sono rigorosamente vietate. Qualora abbiate ricevuto questo documento per errore siete cortesemente pregati di darne immediata comunicazione al mittente e di provvedere alla sua distruzione, Grazie. This e-mail and any attachments is confidential and may contain privileged information intended for the addressee(s) only. Dissemination, copying, printing or use by anybody else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message and any attachments and advise the sender by return e-mail, Thanks. [cid:image002.gif at 01CDC7C3.CE66B4C0]Rispetta l'ambiente. Non stampare questa mail se non ? necessario. ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra pol?tica de env?o y recepci?n de correo electr?nico en el enlace situado m?s abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. We only send and receive email on the basis of the terms set out at: http://www.tid.es/ES/PAGINAS/disclaimer.aspx _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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Name: FI WARE WP11 Review- individual_SAP.pptx Type: application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.presentationml.presentation Size: 109526 bytes Desc: FI WARE WP11 Review- individual_SAP.pptx URL: From jimenez at tid.es Wed Nov 21 09:34:47 2012 From: jimenez at tid.es (JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 08:34:47 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting In-Reply-To: References: <27855_1352879011_50A34BA3_27855_15115_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C07F222@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Thank you Pier It seems our mails have crossed. Your proposal is also very good. I have checked that SAP proposed changes are also incorporated there. So both possibilities are correct. So, for the rest, act as you prefer, you can use Pier's link or just send the changes in the pptx directly to me BR De: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Enviado el: martes, 20 de noviembre de 2012 22:06 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Asunto: R: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, I cannot make any modification to the slides at the link you have given. However I already made some change for TI description at the following link: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_36 Since the contents appear the same, I suggest to remove the duplication of shared slides, and keep only those which allow modifications by the partners (assuming this was the expected purpose). BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: marted? 20 novembre 2012 17:57 A: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Oggetto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting I would like to insist on the presentation with the summary of business plans It should be ready for your changes and your opinions on whether it should be presented https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit BR De: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Enviado el: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:21 Para: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) CC: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Asunto: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importancia: Alta Three slide presentation with a summary of the Business plan https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: jueves, 15 de noviembre de 2012 15:09 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Importance: High https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JFov9d15HPZXw0WP3dBz8dKXpth-Ck-4Z34h8ph6A0Y/edit From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: mi?rcoles, 14 de noviembre de 2012 8:44 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, all, I've just uploaded the Ornage presentation. BR Thierry De : fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Envoy? : mardi 13 novembre 2012 17:19 ? : Garino Pierangelo; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Cc : fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : Re: [Fiware-pcc] Items concerning Seville meeting Dear PCC (particularly Thierry; Axel and Nuria) Please do not forget Pierangelo suggestion Please include the presentation you made in Seville at https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27#( for the rest (Thales, Alcatel, Intel,...) I think it would be very good to have also a similar presentation Thank you From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 17:22 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: R: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear All, I have created a specific folder in the 'Fi-ware Private' docman system (see below the highlighted item), where all the presentations can be uploaded (I did it already for TI's presentation): [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7CB.11763360] BR Pier Da: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Inviato: mercoled? 7 novembre 2012 15:52 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: RE: Items concerning Seville meeting Certainly I do not have the presentations. Can you send them or put in the docman? I'll do that with Telefonica presentation BR From: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Sent: mi?rcoles, 07 de noviembre de 2012 15:20 To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Cc: 'fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu' (fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu) Subject: Items concerning Seville meeting Dear Jose, Following the meeting in Seville held on Monday, would it be possible to share among the PCC members the following: - List of participants (particularly business representatives of the partners, external people) - Presentations done during the meeting These would be really useful for internal company reporting. By the way, did you have a successful second meeting day? BR Pier ------------------------------------------------------------------ Telecom Italia Pierangelo Garino Innovation & Industry Relations - Research & Prototyping Via G. Reiss Romoli 274, I-10148 TORINO Tel: +39 011 228 7142 Questo messaggio e i suoi allegati sono indirizzati esclusivamente alle persone indicate. 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This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. 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November 2012 14:16 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: jimenez at tid.es; Fasse, Axel; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it; nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Subject: M18 Review on Exploitation: Presentation first draft Dear Exploitation Colleagues Please find here enclosed the first draft of the following presentations related with the M18 Review; than I will also upload to the forge: 1- Introduction: Exploitation deliverables? improvements related to the previous review in June M12- Find enclosed the first draft 2- FI-WARE Business Value- Find enclosed the first draft Please include your individual commercial presentation https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27# to leverage on 3- Summary of individual exploitation plans- slides prepared by Jose, please review it to validate the main individual partners? conclusions about commercialization https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit 4- Description of work in each new deliverables: On-going- Next Thursday a first draft will be available a. 11.1 Market and Analysis; b. 11.2 Exploitation Plans and c. 11.3 Market and Policy Awareness 5- Conclusions and Next Steps or Actions required- Find enclosed the first draft Include slides and contents from Juanjo presentation in Seville Please review them and feel free to provide some comments, improvements or modifications during the next week to prepare a final versions to review during the rehearsal in Brussels Thanks for your collaboration Br Juan [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7DD.06EA2340] Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net [cid:image002.gif at 01CDC7DD.06EA2340] From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: viernes, 16 de noviembre de 2012 13:13 To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Subject: cambios en slide Hola Juan A petici?n de sap he hecho algunas modificaciones en https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_36 Saludos ---- Jose Jimenez jimenez at tid.es tf +34 91 483 2660 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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November 2012 14:16 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: jimenez at tid.es; Fasse, Axel; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it; nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Subject: M18 Review on Exploitation: Presentation first draft Dear Exploitation Colleagues Please find here enclosed the first draft of the following presentations related with the M18 Review; than I will also upload to the forge: 1- Introduction: Exploitation deliverables? improvements related to the previous review in June M12- Find enclosed the first draft 2- FI-WARE Business Value- Find enclosed the first draft Please include your individual commercial presentation https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27# to leverage on 3- Summary of individual exploitation plans- slides prepared by Jose, please review it to validate the main individual partners? conclusions about commercialization https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit 4- Description of work in each new deliverables: On-going- Next Thursday a first draft will be available a. 11.1 Market and Analysis; b. 11.2 Exploitation Plans and c. 11.3 Market and Policy Awareness 5- Conclusions and Next Steps or Actions required- Find enclosed the first draft Include slides and contents from Juanjo presentation in Seville Please review them and feel free to provide some comments, improvements or modifications during the next week to prepare a final versions to review during the rehearsal in Brussels Thanks for your collaboration Br Juan [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7DE.F1B8CE20] Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net [cid:image002.gif at 01CDC7DE.F1B8CE20] From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: viernes, 16 de noviembre de 2012 13:13 To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Subject: cambios en slide Hola Juan A petici?n de sap he hecho algunas modificaciones en https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_36 Saludos ---- Jose Jimenez jimenez at tid.es tf +34 91 483 2660 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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November 2012 14:16 To: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: jimenez at tid.es; Fasse, Axel; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it; nuria.delama at atosresearch.eu Subject: M18 Review on Exploitation: Presentation first draft Dear Exploitation Colleagues Please find here enclosed the first draft of the following presentations related with the M18 Review; than I will also upload to the forge: 1- Introduction: Exploitation deliverables? improvements related to the previous review in June M12- Find enclosed the first draft 2- FI-WARE Business Value- Find enclosed the first draft Please include your individual commercial presentation https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/?group_id=27# to leverage on 3- Summary of individual exploitation plans- slides prepared by Jose, please review it to validate the main individual partners? conclusions about commercialization https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8ksuam5cM-YZDFxSmIydnRMN3c/edit 4- Description of work in each new deliverables: On-going- Next Thursday a first draft will be available a. 11.1 Market and Analysis; b. 11.2 Exploitation Plans and c. 11.3 Market and Policy Awareness 5- Conclusions and Next Steps or Actions required- Find enclosed the first draft Include slides and contents from Juanjo presentation in Seville Please review them and feel free to provide some comments, improvements or modifications during the next week to prepare a final versions to review during the rehearsal in Brussels Thanks for your collaboration Br Juan [cid:image001.png at 01CDC7EB.A93EF590] Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net [cid:image002.gif at 01CDC7EB.A93EF590] From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: viernes, 16 de noviembre de 2012 13:13 To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Subject: cambios en slide Hola Juan A petici?n de sap he hecho algunas modificaciones en https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/10KEKfhi4GjrMEXf_cC7n0KuGVl_zNSpurbXm0u6JBC8/edit#slide=id.g3a761385_2_36 Saludos ---- Jose Jimenez jimenez at tid.es tf +34 91 483 2660 ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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Name: FI-WARE Review M18- Business Value v 2011_Comments_SAP.ppt Type: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint Size: 7131648 bytes Desc: FI-WARE Review M18- Business Value v 2011_Comments_SAP.ppt URL: From Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu Wed Nov 21 13:40:10 2012 From: Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu (Tobias Jacobs) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 12:40:10 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC's license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. 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The meeting is going to take place at Telefonica's premises together with the working group Regarding the slides, I think the current version is good but we need some fine tuning. In my opinion, we need to leave the following messages clear 1. We are listening to the reviewers' suggestions and questions and give some answers. This is the purpose of the first presentation (3-4 slides maximum). Perhaps 5 if we include the individual exploitation plans. 2. We present the three deliverables 11.1, 2 and 3. Here I would like to underline the methodology. We want to show we have a method for the study that lead us to the conclusion that FI-WARE is a good product, and that we have developed a sound strategy. This presentation should be 17 slides long maximum 3. Then we have a list of coming actions. This list can be included in the second presentation. We still need to work on this, but I have a possible working version of the slides -based on Juan's and taking most Axel comments I would suggest we work on those slides - which I am sending in this mail (which, of course, does not mean we cannot modify, add, delete them) BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 8:21 Para: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena (juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu) CC: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Asunto: Exploitation Dear Juan, maybe we can have a F2F Meeting in Brussels to finalize the slides. I would suggest to invite Nuria and Jose - and other interested peoples - to participate. Best regards, Axel --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. 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If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy the original message and any copies of the message as well as any attachments to the original message. From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 9:57 AM To: Fasse, Axel; Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena (juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Exploitation Dear all, Juan As you know, we are supposed to use 2 days (Monday and Tuesday) in Brussels to review the slides and the overall presentation of the project. The meeting is going to take place at Telefonica's premises together with the working group Regarding the slides, I think the current version is good but we need some fine tuning. In my opinion, we need to leave the following messages clear 1. We are listening to the reviewers' suggestions and questions and give some answers. This is the purpose of the first presentation (3-4 slides maximum). Perhaps 5 if we include the individual exploitation plans. 2. We present the three deliverables 11.1, 2 and 3. Here I would like to underline the methodology. We want to show we have a method for the study that lead us to the conclusion that FI-WARE is a good product, and that we have developed a sound strategy. This presentation should be 17 slides long maximum 3. Then we have a list of coming actions. This list can be included in the second presentation. We still need to work on this, but I have a possible working version of the slides -based on Juan's and taking most Axel comments I would suggest we work on those slides - which I am sending in this mail (which, of course, does not mean we cannot modify, add, delete them) BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 8:21 Para: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena (juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu) CC: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Asunto: Exploitation Dear Juan, maybe we can have a F2F Meeting in Brussels to finalize the slides. I would suggest to invite Nuria and Jose - and other interested peoples - to participate. Best regards, Axel --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. 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URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Thu Nov 22 12:29:38 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 11:29:38 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> Message-ID: <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners... Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC's license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. 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URL: From henk.heijnen at technicolor.com Thu Nov 22 13:44:45 2012 From: henk.heijnen at technicolor.com (Heijnen Henk) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:44:45 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE53D4@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> Hello Thierry, all, I have some remarks indeed. The shareware model could be ok BUT it is not easily applicable to some of the GEs. Mainly for GEs that will be on the "terminal side" (IoT GEs, I2ND GEs ...). These GEs are expected to be instantiated in large volumes (they are parts of terminals) and having to manage licenses for such items will be a nightmare. Having to "control" that these items have been legitimately licensed will even be worse, we might have to develop code dedicated to checking that an item is properly licensed, this verification code would have to be developed using technologies found in content management (for example, video game copy protection) that might be so complex they actually will be more expensive to implement than the piece of code they will protect. Maybe this "shareware licensing scheme" might become a new GE by itself ?? (if the "terminal-side" SW is easy to port / implement) ... On top of that, we (partners) will have to commercially manage these licenses. This means we must have a dedicated team granting licenses numbers to others and collecting money out of that. Who amongst the partners have such a group in its company??? Kind regards H Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image001.jpg at 01CDC8B7.2827A6B0] [cid:image002.png at 01CDC8B7.2827A6B0] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 12:30 To: Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners... Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC's license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 2226 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From thierry.nagellen at orange.com Thu Nov 22 14:29:47 2012 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com (thierry.nagellen at orange.com) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:29:47 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE53D4@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE53D4@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> Message-ID: <7929_1353590987_50AE28CB_7929_346_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C08436C@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Hi Henk, Regarding your concern the right approach in a first step could be just to put a deadline in the code to avoid managing licenses. People will have to download a new version when the first one ends up. Regarding the large number of instances you expect typically before the 2nd release, and then before the 3rd release? For the last 2 years of the program I think it could be completely different, of course. But anyway, I think that if some simple developers succeed to manage sharewares in this way, it should not be impossible for Fi-Ware and the companies involved to do it also. BR Thierry De : Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Envoy? : jeudi 22 novembre 2012 13:45 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hello Thierry, all, I have some remarks indeed. The shareware model could be ok BUT it is not easily applicable to some of the GEs. Mainly for GEs that will be on the "terminal side" (IoT GEs, I2ND GEs ...). These GEs are expected to be instantiated in large volumes (they are parts of terminals) and having to manage licenses for such items will be a nightmare. Having to "control" that these items have been legitimately licensed will even be worse, we might have to develop code dedicated to checking that an item is properly licensed, this verification code would have to be developed using technologies found in content management (for example, video game copy protection) that might be so complex they actually will be more expensive to implement than the piece of code they will protect. Maybe this "shareware licensing scheme" might become a new GE by itself ?? (if the "terminal-side" SW is easy to port / implement) ... On top of that, we (partners) will have to commercially manage these licenses. This means we must have a dedicated team granting licenses numbers to others and collecting money out of that. Who amongst the partners have such a group in its company??? Kind regards H Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00] [cid:image002.png at 01CDC8BC.F158D4F0] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 12:30 To: Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners... Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC's license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 16662 bytes Desc: image001.jpg URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 2226 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From henk.heijnen at technicolor.com Thu Nov 22 14:39:18 2012 From: henk.heijnen at technicolor.com (Heijnen Henk) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 14:39:18 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <7929_1353590987_50AE28CB_7929_346_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C08436C@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE53D4@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> <7929_1353590987_50AE28CB_7929_346_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C08436C@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE54DE@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> Having large companies managing a shareware model will not be an easy task (I agree, it is simple for "simple developers" but do you know how to implement that inside Orange for example ???) On the tech side: what about small HW that do not have a local knowledge of time/date or on which, time/date can be user-modified??? Anyway, adding a duration limitation inside a GE you are giving the source code for is worthless (same for any protection scheme of course) and not giving 100% of the GE source code will be a violation of the GPL (or equivalent) licenses (I assume everybody is using open source inside its GE ???). Maybe a centralized license manage could help ? (assuming we can obfuscate the protection code in some way) Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image001.jpg at 01CDC8BE.9FD74880] [cid:image002.png at 01CDC8BE.9FD74880] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 14:30 To: Heijnen Henk; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hi Henk, Regarding your concern the right approach in a first step could be just to put a deadline in the code to avoid managing licenses. People will have to download a new version when the first one ends up. Regarding the large number of instances you expect typically before the 2nd release, and then before the 3rd release? For the last 2 years of the program I think it could be completely different, of course. But anyway, I think that if some simple developers succeed to manage sharewares in this way, it should not be impossible for Fi-Ware and the companies involved to do it also. BR Thierry De : Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Envoy? : jeudi 22 novembre 2012 13:45 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hello Thierry, all, I have some remarks indeed. The shareware model could be ok BUT it is not easily applicable to some of the GEs. Mainly for GEs that will be on the "terminal side" (IoT GEs, I2ND GEs ...). These GEs are expected to be instantiated in large volumes (they are parts of terminals) and having to manage licenses for such items will be a nightmare. Having to "control" that these items have been legitimately licensed will even be worse, we might have to develop code dedicated to checking that an item is properly licensed, this verification code would have to be developed using technologies found in content management (for example, video game copy protection) that might be so complex they actually will be more expensive to implement than the piece of code they will protect. Maybe this "shareware licensing scheme" might become a new GE by itself ?? (if the "terminal-side" SW is easy to port / implement) ... On top of that, we (partners) will have to commercially manage these licenses. This means we must have a dedicated team granting licenses numbers to others and collecting money out of that. Who amongst the partners have such a group in its company??? Kind regards H Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image001.jpg at 01CDC8BE.9FD74880] [cid:image002.png at 01CDC8BE.9FD74880] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 12:30 To: Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners... Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC's license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 2226 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From GLIKSON at il.ibm.com Thu Nov 22 14:00:48 2012 From: GLIKSON at il.ibm.com (Alex Glikson) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:00:48 +0200 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] [Fiware-wpl] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Message-ID: Dear Thierry, all, Personally, I think it is not feasible to come up with an agreed approach before the review (surely IP/legal must be involved), therefore this sounds like less urgent than other preparations for the review. Regards, Alex ==================================================================================================== Alex Glikson Manager, Cloud Operating System Technologies, IBM Haifa Research Lab http://w3.haifa.ibm.com/dept/stt/cloud_sys.html | https://www.research.ibm.com/haifa/dept/stt/cloud_sys.shtml Email: glikson at il.ibm.com | Phone: +972-4-8281085 | Mobile: +972-54-6466667 | Fax: +972-4-8296112 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com To: Tobias Jacobs , "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" , "fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu" , Date: 22/11/2012 01:29 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpl] [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners? Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC?s license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [ mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. 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URL: From Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu Thu Nov 22 16:19:34 2012 From: Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu (Tobias Jacobs) Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:19:34 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE54DE@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE53D4@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> <7929_1353590987_50AE28CB_7929_346_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C08436C@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE54DE@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> Message-ID: <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED7573@Hydra.office.hd> Dear all, Thanks for discussing the topic. Not sure if I fully understand the discussion, but would it be possible to make the shareware model something like the minimum? In the sense that all GE implementations can be used at least until the that deadline? Allowing an extended usage period, implementing/not implementing the deadline in the code, open sourcing, etc., would still be a matter of the GE implementation? In that case projects using the GEs can be sure that at least until this and that time they can use whatever GE they are interested in. Best regards Tobias From: Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 22. November 2012 14:39 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Having large companies managing a shareware model will not be an easy task (I agree, it is simple for "simple developers" but do you know how to implement that inside Orange for example ???) On the tech side: what about small HW that do not have a local knowledge of time/date or on which, time/date can be user-modified??? Anyway, adding a duration limitation inside a GE you are giving the source code for is worthless (same for any protection scheme of course) and not giving 100% of the GE source code will be a violation of the GPL (or equivalent) licenses (I assume everybody is using open source inside its GE ???). Maybe a centralized license manage could help ? (assuming we can obfuscate the protection code in some way) Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00] [cid:image002.png at 01CDC8CC.CAA90310] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 14:30 To: Heijnen Henk; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hi Henk, Regarding your concern the right approach in a first step could be just to put a deadline in the code to avoid managing licenses. People will have to download a new version when the first one ends up. Regarding the large number of instances you expect typically before the 2nd release, and then before the 3rd release? For the last 2 years of the program I think it could be completely different, of course. But anyway, I think that if some simple developers succeed to manage sharewares in this way, it should not be impossible for Fi-Ware and the companies involved to do it also. BR Thierry De : Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Envoy? : jeudi 22 novembre 2012 13:45 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hello Thierry, all, I have some remarks indeed. The shareware model could be ok BUT it is not easily applicable to some of the GEs. Mainly for GEs that will be on the "terminal side" (IoT GEs, I2ND GEs ...). These GEs are expected to be instantiated in large volumes (they are parts of terminals) and having to manage licenses for such items will be a nightmare. Having to "control" that these items have been legitimately licensed will even be worse, we might have to develop code dedicated to checking that an item is properly licensed, this verification code would have to be developed using technologies found in content management (for example, video game copy protection) that might be so complex they actually will be more expensive to implement than the piece of code they will protect. Maybe this "shareware licensing scheme" might become a new GE by itself ?? (if the "terminal-side" SW is easy to port / implement) ... On top of that, we (partners) will have to commercially manage these licenses. This means we must have a dedicated team granting licenses numbers to others and collecting money out of that. Who amongst the partners have such a group in its company??? Kind regards H Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00] [cid:image002.png at 01CDC8CC.CAA90310] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 12:30 To: Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners... Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC's license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 2226 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu Fri Nov 23 13:29:26 2012 From: juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 13:29:26 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Exploitation In-Reply-To: References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176B911C2@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> Message-ID: Dear All The last version of the presentation with just two additional comments introduced in the Intro and including the Business Canvas in the other one Br Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 9:57 To: Fasse, Axel; Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: Exploitation Dear all, Juan As you know, we are supposed to use 2 days (Monday and Tuesday) in Brussels to review the slides and the overall presentation of the project. The meeting is going to take place at Telefonica's premises together with the working group Regarding the slides, I think the current version is good but we need some fine tuning. In my opinion, we need to leave the following messages clear 1. We are listening to the reviewers' suggestions and questions and give some answers. This is the purpose of the first presentation (3-4 slides maximum). Perhaps 5 if we include the individual exploitation plans. 2. We present the three deliverables 11.1, 2 and 3. Here I would like to underline the methodology. We want to show we have a method for the study that lead us to the conclusion that FI-WARE is a good product, and that we have developed a sound strategy. This presentation should be 17 slides long maximum 3. Then we have a list of coming actions. This list can be included in the second presentation. We still need to work on this, but I have a possible working version of the slides -based on Juan's and taking most Axel comments I would suggest we work on those slides - which I am sending in this mail (which, of course, does not mean we cannot modify, add, delete them) BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 8:21 Para: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena (juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu) CC: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Asunto: Exploitation Dear Juan, maybe we can have a F2F Meeting in Brussels to finalize the slides. I would suggest to invite Nuria and Jose - and other interested peoples - to participate. 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From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 1:29 PM To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Fasse, Axel Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Exploitation Dear All The last version of the presentation with just two additional comments introduced in the Intro and including the Business Canvas in the other one Br Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 9:57 To: Fasse, Axel; Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: Exploitation Dear all, Juan As you know, we are supposed to use 2 days (Monday and Tuesday) in Brussels to review the slides and the overall presentation of the project. The meeting is going to take place at Telefonica's premises together with the working group Regarding the slides, I think the current version is good but we need some fine tuning. In my opinion, we need to leave the following messages clear 1. We are listening to the reviewers' suggestions and questions and give some answers. This is the purpose of the first presentation (3-4 slides maximum). Perhaps 5 if we include the individual exploitation plans. 2. We present the three deliverables 11.1, 2 and 3. Here I would like to underline the methodology. We want to show we have a method for the study that lead us to the conclusion that FI-WARE is a good product, and that we have developed a sound strategy. This presentation should be 17 slides long maximum 3. Then we have a list of coming actions. This list can be included in the second presentation. We still need to work on this, but I have a possible working version of the slides -based on Juan's and taking most Axel comments I would suggest we work on those slides - which I am sending in this mail (which, of course, does not mean we cannot modify, add, delete them) BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 8:21 Para: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena (juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu) CC: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Asunto: Exploitation Dear Juan, maybe we can have a F2F Meeting in Brussels to finalize the slides. I would suggest to invite Nuria and Jose - and other interested peoples - to participate. Best regards, Axel --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. 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From: "ext JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO" Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Exploitation Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:58:26 +0200 Size: 27147 URL: From juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu Fri Nov 23 14:00:18 2012 From: juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Juan_Bare=F1o_Guerenabarrena?=) Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:00:18 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Exploitation In-Reply-To: References: <2C6296E1876B5C49962495FDACDC7A636176B911C2@DEWDFECCR01.wdf.sap.corp> A Message-ID: Dear Jozsef I thought that this presentation, about individual plans, was not included in the Intro, but I change it as you indicated Br Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: Varga, Jozsef (NSN - HU/Budapest) [mailto:jozsef.varga at nsn.com] Sent: viernes, 23 de noviembre de 2012 13:49 To: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Fasse, Axel; Nemeth, Lorant (NSN - HU/Budapest) Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Exploitation Hi, I have already indicated twice that NSN is not involved in IoT any more. Also I have updated the "official" google document after I received the mail from Jose (see the mail attached). Your sldes still has IoT as main asset for NSN. Third time, please change that to "Network services". Br, Jozsef This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain proprietary and/or confidential information which may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy the original message and any copies of the message as well as any attachments to the original message. From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Sent: Friday, November 23, 2012 1:29 PM To: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; Fasse, Axel Cc: fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Exploitation Dear All The last version of the presentation with just two additional comments introduced in the Intro and including the Business Canvas in the other one Br Juan Juan Bare?o Group Innovation, Business Development & Strategy Research & Innovation +34 912148859 Calle Albarrac?n 25, 28037 Madrid juan.bareno at atos.net www.atos.net From: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO [mailto:jimenez at tid.es] Sent: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 9:57 To: Fasse, Axel; Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: Exploitation Dear all, Juan As you know, we are supposed to use 2 days (Monday and Tuesday) in Brussels to review the slides and the overall presentation of the project. The meeting is going to take place at Telefonica's premises together with the working group Regarding the slides, I think the current version is good but we need some fine tuning. In my opinion, we need to leave the following messages clear 1. We are listening to the reviewers' suggestions and questions and give some answers. This is the purpose of the first presentation (3-4 slides maximum). Perhaps 5 if we include the individual exploitation plans. 2. We present the three deliverables 11.1, 2 and 3. Here I would like to underline the methodology. We want to show we have a method for the study that lead us to the conclusion that FI-WARE is a good product, and that we have developed a sound strategy. This presentation should be 17 slides long maximum 3. Then we have a list of coming actions. This list can be included in the second presentation. We still need to work on this, but I have a possible working version of the slides -based on Juan's and taking most Axel comments I would suggest we work on those slides - which I am sending in this mail (which, of course, does not mean we cannot modify, add, delete them) BR De: Fasse, Axel [mailto:axel.fasse at sap.com] Enviado el: jueves, 22 de noviembre de 2012 8:21 Para: Juan Bare?o Guerenabarrena (juan.bareno at atosresearch.eu) CC: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO Asunto: Exploitation Dear Juan, maybe we can have a F2F Meeting in Brussels to finalize the slides. I would suggest to invite Nuria and Jose - and other interested peoples - to participate. Best regards, Axel --------------------------- Axel Fasse Senior Researcher SAP Research Karlsruhe SAP AG Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 76131 Karlsruhe, Germany T +49 6227 7-52528 F +49 6227 78-55237 M +4915153858917 E axel.fasse at sap.com www.sap.com Pflichtangaben/Mandatory Disclosure Statements: http://www.sap.com/company/legal/impressum.epx Diese E-Mail kann Betriebs- oder Gesch?ftsgeheimnisse oder sonstige vertrauliche Informationen enthalten. Sollten Sie diese E-Mail irrt?mlich erhalten haben, ist Ihnen eine Kenntnisnahme des Inhalts, eine Vervielf?ltigung oder Weitergabe der E-Mail ausdr?cklich untersagt. Bitte benachrichtigen Sie uns und vernichten Sie die empfangene E-Mail. Vielen Dank. This e-mail may contain trade secrets or privileged, undisclosed, or otherwise confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error, you are hereby notified that any review, copying, or distribution of it is strictly prohibited. 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Name: FI-WARE Review M18- Introduction.ppt Type: application/vnd.ms-powerpoint Size: 533504 bytes Desc: FI-WARE Review M18- Introduction.ppt URL: From john.m.kennedy at intel.com Tue Nov 27 08:25:12 2012 From: john.m.kennedy at intel.com (Kennedy, John M) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:25:12 +0000 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs In-Reply-To: <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED7573@Hydra.office.hd> References: <26558_1353489086_50AC9ABD_26558_524_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C083DC7@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED721C@Hydra.office.hd> <2563_1353583779_50AE0CA3_2563_2568_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C084214@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE53D4@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> <7929_1353590987_50AE28CB_7929_346_1_976A65C5A08ADF49B9A8523F7F81925C08436C@PEXCVZYM13.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <189C15C1ADF61544BD5A11DCE7D5C500027EEE54DE@MOPESMBX01.eu.thmulti.com> <8755F290097BD941865DC4245B335D2D38ED7573@Hydra.office.hd> Message-ID: <70851B256BA35449A5ADF81F0FADF88115D63164@IRSMSX101.ger.corp.intel.com> Dear all, Just to share Intel's perspective, I confirm it would be very challenging to get internal business and legal approval and resources to support a shareware model for at least the Intel GE implementations. As you may know, our current intentions are to release our Intel GE implementations open source. Open sourcing procedures and implications are comprehended across our internal business processes and relevant business groups. I hope whatever solution we come up with - if for example it is shareware as a minimum - will not affect GE implementations that are being open-sourced. Kind regards, - John. From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Tobias Jacobs Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 3:20 PM To: Heijnen Henk; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Thanks for discussing the topic. Not sure if I fully understand the discussion, but would it be possible to make the shareware model something like the minimum? In the sense that all GE implementations can be used at least until the that deadline? Allowing an extended usage period, implementing/not implementing the deadline in the code, open sourcing, etc., would still be a matter of the GE implementation? In that case projects using the GEs can be sure that at least until this and that time they can use whatever GE they are interested in. Best regards Tobias From: Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 22. November 2012 14:39 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Having large companies managing a shareware model will not be an easy task (I agree, it is simple for "simple developers" but do you know how to implement that inside Orange for example ???) On the tech side: what about small HW that do not have a local knowledge of time/date or on which, time/date can be user-modified??? Anyway, adding a duration limitation inside a GE you are giving the source code for is worthless (same for any protection scheme of course) and not giving 100% of the GE source code will be a violation of the GPL (or equivalent) licenses (I assume everybody is using open source inside its GE ???). Maybe a centralized license manage could help ? (assuming we can obfuscate the protection code in some way) Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00] [cid:image002.png at 01CDCBF6.7A2F83A0] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 14:30 To: Heijnen Henk; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hi Henk, Regarding your concern the right approach in a first step could be just to put a deadline in the code to avoid managing licenses. People will have to download a new version when the first one ends up. Regarding the large number of instances you expect typically before the 2nd release, and then before the 3rd release? For the last 2 years of the program I think it could be completely different, of course. But anyway, I think that if some simple developers succeed to manage sharewares in this way, it should not be impossible for Fi-Ware and the companies involved to do it also. BR Thierry De : Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Envoy? : jeudi 22 novembre 2012 13:45 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hello Thierry, all, I have some remarks indeed. The shareware model could be ok BUT it is not easily applicable to some of the GEs. Mainly for GEs that will be on the "terminal side" (IoT GEs, I2ND GEs ...). These GEs are expected to be instantiated in large volumes (they are parts of terminals) and having to manage licenses for such items will be a nightmare. Having to "control" that these items have been legitimately licensed will even be worse, we might have to develop code dedicated to checking that an item is properly licensed, this verification code would have to be developed using technologies found in content management (for example, video game copy protection) that might be so complex they actually will be more expensive to implement than the piece of code they will protect. Maybe this "shareware licensing scheme" might become a new GE by itself ?? (if the "terminal-side" SW is easy to port / implement) ... On top of that, we (partners) will have to commercially manage these licenses. This means we must have a dedicated team granting licenses numbers to others and collecting money out of that. Who amongst the partners have such a group in its company??? Kind regards H Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00] [cid:image002.png at 01CDCBF6.7A2F83A0] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 12:30 To: Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners... Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC's license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) >From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. 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Name: image002.png Type: image/png Size: 2226 bytes Desc: image002.png URL: From Tanguy.Bourgault at thalesaleniaspace.com Wed Nov 28 18:04:35 2012 From: Tanguy.Bourgault at thalesaleniaspace.com (Tanguy.Bourgault at thalesaleniaspace.com) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:04:35 +0100 Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] =?iso-8859-1?q?R=E9f=2E_=3A_Re=3A__Sharewar?= =?iso-8859-1?q?e_approach_ofr_3rd=09parties=09to=09use=09Fi-Ware_GEs?= In-Reply-To: <70851B256BA35449A5ADF81F0FADF88115D63164@IRSMSX101.ger.corp.intel.com> Message-ID: <13517_1354122264_50B64418_13517_9627_1_OF7A374831.171F3081-ONC1257AC4.005D00BA-C1257AC4.005DCDBD@thalesaleniaspace.com> Dear all, As Location GE owner (data chapter), I have to say that the shareware model will not work for us, since our plans for exploitation are either (as found in catalogue): - sell software licences for each platform being deployed or - establish bilateral agreements with companies interested to develop applications/services based on our asset. I understand that a global licensing model would be ideal, but I hope that there will be a place for other models like ours. Best regards, Tanguy Bourgault Location GE, Thales Alenia Space |---------+--------------------------------------------> | | "Kennedy, John M" | | | | | | Envoy? par : | | | fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists| | | .fi-ware.eu | | | | | | | | | 27/11/2012 08:25 | |---------+--------------------------------------------> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | Pour : Tobias Jacobs | | Heijnen Henk | | "thierry.nagellen at orange.com" | | "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" | | "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" | | "fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu" | | cc : | | Objet : Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs | >------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Dear all, Just to share Intel?s perspective, I confirm it would be very challenging to get internal business and legal approval and resources to support a shareware model for at least the Intel GE implementations. As you may know, our current intentions are to release our Intel GE implementations open source. Open sourcing procedures and implications are comprehended across our internal business processes and relevant business groups. I hope whatever solution we come up with ? if for example it is shareware as a minimum - will not affect GE implementations that are being open-sourced. Kind regards, - John. From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Tobias Jacobs Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 3:20 PM To: Heijnen Henk; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Thanks for discussing the topic. Not sure if I fully understand the discussion, but would it be possible to make the shareware model something like the minimum? In the sense that all GE implementations can be used at least until the that deadline? Allowing an extended usage period, implementing/not implementing the deadline in the code, open sourcing, etc., would still be a matter of the GE implementation? In that case projects using the GEs can be sure that at least until this and that time they can use whatever GE they are interested in. Best regards Tobias From: Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 22. November 2012 14:39 To: thierry.nagellen at orange.com; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu ; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Having large companies managing a shareware model will not be an easy task (I agree, it is simple for ?simple developers? but do you know how to implement that inside Orange for example ???) On the tech side: what about small HW that do not have a local knowledge of time/date or on which, time/date can be user-modified??? Anyway, adding a duration limitation inside a GE you are giving the source code for is worthless (same for any protection scheme of course) and not giving 100% of the GE source code will be a violation of the GPL (or equivalent) licenses (I assume everybody is using open source inside its GE ???). Maybe a centralized license manage could help ? (assuming we can obfuscate the protection code in some way) Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00 Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: thierry.nagellen at orange.com [mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com] Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 14:30 To: Heijnen Henk; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hi Henk, Regarding your concern the right approach in a first step could be just to put a deadline in the code to avoid managing licenses. People will have to download a new version when the first one ends up. Regarding the large number of instances you expect typically before the 2nd release, and then before the 3rd release? For the last 2 years of the program I think it could be completely different, of course. But anyway, I think that if some simple developers succeed to manage sharewares in this way, it should not be impossible for Fi-Ware and the companies involved to do it also. BR Thierry De : Heijnen Henk [mailto:henk.heijnen at technicolor.com] Envoy? : jeudi 22 novembre 2012 13:45 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Hello Thierry, all, I have some remarks indeed. The shareware model could be ok BUT it is not easily applicable to some of the GEs. Mainly for GEs that will be on the ?terminal side? (IoT GEs, I2ND GEs ?). These GEs are expected to be instantiated in large volumes (they are parts of terminals) and having to manage licenses for such items will be a nightmare. Having to ?control? that these items have been legitimately licensed will even be worse, we might have to develop code dedicated to checking that an item is properly licensed, this verification code would have to be developed using technologies found in content management (for example, video game copy protection) that might be so complex they actually will be more expensive to implement than the piece of code they will protect. Maybe this ?shareware licensing scheme? might become a new GE by itself ?? (if the ?terminal-side? SW is easy to port / implement) ? On top of that, we (partners) will have to commercially manage these licenses. This means we must have a dedicated team granting licenses numbers to others and collecting money out of that. Who amongst the partners have such a group in its company??? Kind regards H Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00 Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 975 avenue des champs blancs - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-S?vign? cedex - FRANCE T?l: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [ mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: jeudi 22 novembre 2012 12:30 To: Tobias Jacobs; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu ; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, Except NEC answer, there is no other contribution. I could interpret that as it is not a crucial point or nobody would really try to implement a fi-ware instance for 3rd parties which are not involved in the FI PPP. Or maybe some of you prefer also spend lots of time with lawyers to solve the FRAND issues with all GE owners? Maybe I should an email requesting for an free open source from all GE owners to have more feedback. BR Thierry De : Tobias Jacobs [mailto:Tobias.Jacobs at neclab.eu] Envoy? : mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:40 ? : NAGELLEN Thierry OLNC/OLPS; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Objet : RE: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear Thierry, Although we have to check with NEC?s license policy before making a final statement on this, I like to say already now that the shareware model sounds very attractive so us in comparison with both open sourcing and commercialization. The benefit for the GE users is indeed a strong argument for taking that road. As a statement on the license is due before the review next week, it would be good if a decision on this issue could be made as soon as possible. How was the resonance in Seville? Best regards Tobias From: fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [ mailto:fiware-exploitation-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of thierry.nagellen at orange.com Sent: Mittwoch, 21. November 2012 10:11 To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-exploitation at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-exploitation] Shareware approach ofr 3rd parties to use Fi-Ware GEs Dear all, As I explained in Seville, but of course not all partners were there, to put in place a Fi-Ware instance should be a nightmare if a partner has to deal with all GE owners to know under which conditions it could use the GEs for 3rd parties involvement and to launch an ecosystem. This type of negotiation would first take lots of time and second does not support a business model approach for a Fi-Ware instance because you cannot define your price before to close all negotiations with each GE owner. The other approach is first to avoid any legal trouble trying to change FI PPP approach and opening GE use to 3rd parties which will not sign the Collaboration Agreement. I fully understand that our legal process are not the same in each company but I expect that what I propose could have the lower legal impact. What is a shareware approach? Two specific issues with a software: first you can limit the set of features till user who downloads your software pay for it, second you can put a deadline after which the software will not be available on your computer (another way is to ask for a license number, so as a registered member you can install the software and the licence give you a deadline) From a technical point of view, and because we propose innovative service for Future Internet (at least I expect so for all GEs ;-) ) it is not relevant to limit the features you can use when you download and use a GE. But it is very easy to put a deadline inside the code to be sure for example that an user will have to update the GE with a new release (typically release 2 end of April and then 3rd release). We can also follow how many times a GE Reference Instance is really downloaded and if it is successful. This approach could support for all GE owner a business model approach analyzing what is the concrete value users will be able to identify using the GE. In this approach we do not have to ask for money also, from my point of view, to avoid any financial process. In this approach, we do not have also to provide a commercial support from our companies for GE RI because we all know that it is very difficult to put in place and we have to demonstrate the ROI for each of them before. This shareware approach should not have a strong legal impact because each of us has not to provide some source code and will not decide any commercial support which could involve the company in legal matters. Your feedback is welcome and expected and at least Orange expects to deliver its own GE RI in this way to support a strong launch new ecosystems. Best regards Thierry Nagellen Program Manager Future Internet Orange Labs Networks & Carriers 905 rue Albert Einstein 06921 Sophia Antipolis Cedex +33 492 94 52 84 +33 679 85 08 44 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. As emails may be altered, France Telecom - Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. Thank you. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, France Telecom - Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. 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