Hi Pier, For sure, I have also seen this part of the mail... But again: you can see from this that FI-WARE lacks continuous and sustainable management and tool support: 1. this is an important piece of info, this should be part of an info page with good visibility (to be observed, this should be linked from the tracker pages); to distribute it like this is, simply spoken, non-professional... 2. the list ends in June, so (from this mail) nobody is able to plan for the rest of year. Does this mean: let's wait for the review, whether we have still to plan for a further period of time? (I hope this is not the case...). Either there is a sustainable numbering scheme, than this should be clearly described, or this mail indicates that numbering is given only on sight distance (would match with TID managament style). Best regards, Thomas ________________________________ Von: Garino Pierangelo [mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2012 14:32 An: Banniza, Thomas-Rolf (Thomas-Rolf) Cc: FiWare WP7 (fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu) Betreff: R: [Fiware] Wrong numeration schema in the trackers Dear Thomas, I agree with you (and Thierry) on the fact the naming convention was not adequately 'advertised', so we need to improve the coordination actions. For what concerns the numbering, the explanation in the mail by F. Aguilar below should dissipate any doubt: FIWARE.Release.x.y FIWARE.Sprint.x.y.z <- Note the x.y digits equal to previous line. z digit restarts at each change of x.y Dic Ene Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dic Release 1.1 1.1 1.1 1.2 1.2 1.2 1.3 Sprint 1.1.1 1.1.2 1.1.3 1.2.1 1.2.2 1.2.3 1.3.1 Hope it clarifies the issue. BR Pier Da: Banniza, Thomas-Rolf (Thomas-Rolf) [mailto:thomas-rolf.banniza at alcatel-lucent.com] Inviato: giovedì 14 giugno 2012 10:56 A: Garino Pierangelo Cc: FiWare WP7 (fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu) Oggetto: WG: [Fiware] Wrong numeration schema in the trackers Dear Pier, do you know of any Wiki page or other doc which definitvely describes the correct naming/numbering/whatever of the various periods (sprints, releases, sub release, ...). If there is no such page, please urgently request such a page from project managament! We discussed this item early this year (with no result...), and now it comes up again... Knowing the correct naming doesn't solve the problem of having obviously only 3 user stories for release 1.3 (in whole Fiware I assume, following mail of Thierry Nagellen this morning), but if the managament does not do the basic jobs, it can't expect correct filling of the management tables.... Best regards, Thomas ________________________________ Von: fiware-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Im Auftrag von Miguel Carrillo Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2012 17:14 An: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu Cc: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu Betreff: [Fiware] Wrong numeration schema in the trackers Dear all, The information sent by Fernando at the end of this message is of high importance and it has to be understood. We have to use a consistent terminology for Releases and Sprints in the project. We have checked it in the backlog and unfortunately it is not always the case. I attach the excel file we used to deliver the backlog to the EC, based on a snapshot of the backlog trackers of the chapters taken last Friday. To understand what we mean, you can check the modifications we made to the sprint and release fields by hand on the spreadsheet. Those chapters who do not have User Stories in Release 1.3 (more precisely, Sprint 1.3.1), are sending the message that they are doing nothing now (hopefully not the case!). Please amend it. This convention of Releases and Sprints is something general, this means that a given chapter cannot decide autonomously to follow a different schedule/numbering. We need to show a coherent face to the outside world. I send you this directly as this is of general interest and the WPAs/WPLs are focusing on the upcoming review, it must get to everyone. Best regards, Miguel -------- Mensaje original -------- Asunto: [FIWARE] Wrong numeration schema in the tracker... Fecha: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:03:23 +0200 De: FERNANDO LOPEZ AGUILAR <fla at tid.es><mailto:fla at tid.es> A: Irena Trajkovska <irenatr at gmail.com><mailto:irenatr at gmail.com>, Javier Cerviño <jcervino at dit.upm.es><mailto:jcervino at dit.upm.es>, Joaquin Salvachua <joaquin.salvachua at upm.es><mailto:joaquin.salvachua at upm.es> CC: MIGUEL CARRILLO PACHECO <mcp at tid.es><mailto:mcp at tid.es>, JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es>, "fiware-cloud at lists.fi-ware.eu"<mailto:fiware-cloud at lists.fi-ware.eu> <fiware-cloud at lists.fi-ware.eu><mailto:fiware-cloud at lists.fi-ware.eu> Dear Javier and Irena, I was checking the tracker and I could see some inconsistencies in the tracker numeration. Please check it taking into account the following indication. 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