Hi Sabrina,
I fully agree with the Martin's point of view. Basically, we have 2 interactions with I2ND:
1- How to reach 3GPP devices: here we expect a clear interface that T5.1 could use as for other devices (Zigbee, etc...) As I2ND has a dedicated GE for 3GPP devices maybe the first approach is to ask them what kind of API they will propose and what parameters of 3GPP devices would be available to send/receive data. If we have a SOAP interface we would be able to host in 3GPP devices part of the gateway, so some smart features from T5.2, T5.3 & T5.4 but we have to be able to manage the first step of connectivity to enable the SOAP session.
2- Cloud proxy: beyond Linux proxy, how could we host the gateway in this cloud proxy? What would be the capabilities (and performance) of this cloud proxy to host gateway services and smart things connectivity. This connectivity should include dedicated communication cards with different standards (wifi, zigbee, blutooth...) Are these cards available in the cloud proxy, how many? And do we have a VM per card as a VM for the gateway? Is it possible to host in this cloud proxy our database services (local database + synchronization with database in the cloud + discovery services)? One of the main concern, as I have understood the cloud proxy, is that there are at least 2 firewalls so how would it be possible to go through these firewalls for IoT services?
Best regards
Thierry
De : fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Martin Bauer
Envoyé : lundi 17 octobre 2011 17:49
À : Guerra Sabrina; 'Ricardo de las Heras'
Cc : 'fiware-iot at lists.fi-ware.eu'
Objet : Re: [Fiware-iot] R: R: weekly meeting minutes, 14 Oct 2011
Hi Sabrina,
I am not sure, if the interfaces being discussed are all on the same level. The OMA NGSI interface would rather
be between WP5 and WP6 (Data / context management services) , rather than I2ND. Regarding OGC and
especially ETSI M2M I'm not 100% sure, but we are more looking at the T5.4/5.2 related interfaces than T5.1.
I would see I2ND rather on the lower level communication-related interfaces, but maybe I'm mistaken there.
Best regards,
Martin
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From: fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Guerra Sabrina
Sent: Montag, 17. Oktober 2011 17:33
To: 'Ricardo de las Heras'
Cc: 'fiware-iot at lists.fi-ware.eu'
Subject: [Fiware-iot] R: R: weekly meeting minutes, 14 Oct 2011
Hi Ricardo,
Thank you for your answer but our doubt is that there are 2 running activities (cross-work between I2ND and IoT and task-force on standards) that have the same objective (defining the interfaces from IoT SE Platform and Cloud Proxy) and we wouldn't want to create an overlap.
Best regards,
Sabrina Guerra
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Da: Ricardo de las Heras [mailto:rheras at tid.es]
Inviato: Monday, October 17, 2011 5:06 PM
A: Guerra Sabrina
Cc: 'fiware-iot at lists.fi-ware.eu'; 'Martin Bauer'
Oggetto: Re: R: [Fiware-iot] weekly meeting minutes, 14 Oct 2011
HI Sabrina,
SensorAPI is the standard used between the concentrator/Gateway and the platform, this is the way used for example in IDAS,
so I understand NGSI could apply in the same scope, but out of the scope of the sensors' protocols at the low level (Zigbee, Bluetooth, etc.) layer within T5.1
OK?
br,
Ricardo.
Guerra Sabrina wrote:
Hi all,
currently it's starting a cross-work between I2ND and IoT to define the interfaces/protocols between IoT SE Platform and Cloud Proxies. In your opinion which are the interactions between this cross-work and task-force you are proposing?
Best regards,
Sabrina Guerra
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Cellulare +39 331 600 1349
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Da: fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] Per conto di Ricardo de las Heras
Inviato: Monday, October 17, 2011 11:49 AM
A: Martin Bauer
Cc: fiware-iot at lists.fi-ware.eu
Oggetto: Re: [Fiware-iot] weekly meeting minutes, 14 Oct 2011
Dear Martin,
just for clarifying this issue,
what I proposed was to create a 'Task force' for defining in the short term how we can make compatible the OGC SensorAPI and OMA NGSI standards, in the same way we followed to present (Dénes) NGSI vs ETSI M2M last Friday on the call.
Indeed I proposed this work can be led by NEC and TID at least, so I understand you welcome this proposal;)
thanks,
br,
Ricardo.
Martin Bauer wrote:
Dear Dénes, all,
I slightly updated the minutes from last week's telco. Apparently my voice was not recognized in a few places and some
comments were attributed to me that I did not make (maybe they were made by Maarten Los, please check).
Sorry for not introducing myself when making a comment.
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/11/492/IoT-Minutes-Telco-10142011.docx
Another question: regarding the different standards - it seems that a task force has been established, but this does
not become clear from the minutes. We think that NEC, as co-author of the OMA NGSI context management interface,
should participate - we also have some knowledge on ETSI M2M and to a lesser degree on the OGC standards.
Best regards,
Martin
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NEC Europe Ltd.
NEC Laboratories Europe
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D-69115 Heidelberg
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From: fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-iot-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Bisztray, Denes (NSN - HU/Budapest)
Sent: Freitag, 14. Oktober 2011 14:11
To: fiware-iot at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-iot] weekly meeting minutes, 14 Oct 2011
Dear All,
Please find the meeting minutes under the following link:
https://forge.fi-ware.eu/docman/view.php/11/492/IoT-Minutes-Telco-10142011.docx
Best,
Dénes
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