[Fiware-security] TR: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT UPDATE: Requests for joining the chapter projects by UC projects

[BISSON Pascal]

FYI

-----Message d'origine-----
De : BISSON Pascal 
Envoyé : vendredi 30 septembre 2011 13:35
À : Juanjo Hierro
Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; GIDOIN Daniel; BISSON Pascal
Objet : RE: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT UPDATE: Requests for joining the chapter projects by UC projects

Dear Juanjo,


Ok it clarifies somehow what you intend to do for what concerns Use Case Projects. In the meantime will wait for your email for final decision proposed according to analysis you will have performed from your side.

One more clarification I'd like to have from your side on this would visibility of our document to the outside world (i.e. anyone who has registered to the Fusion Forge - This especially for what concerns Wiki Content and so features backlog - I have no problem to have it shared with UC projects but for what concerns outside world I think we should proceed with caution and make informed decision on a shared and agreed basis - not only at the level of each AT but also at the level of the Project itself). This is was more or less the sense of my previous email. Sorry if you didn't get it right first. Hope this would have clarified the issue seen and help you to provide me/us with your answer.

Last but not least I can only regret the fact that our WPL/WPA has been cancelled as it would have been an opportunity to clarify on this topic and others (see previous email from Daniel as WP8 Architect on EPICS vs user stories to figure out what to do after having look at what says Agile Methodology. To be on the safer side I would suggest to agree on the fact we are using a methodology inspired from Agile ...). So waiting for next WPL/WPA audio to further discuss this and others.

Hearing from you.

Regards,

Pascal




-----Message d'origine-----
De : Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] 
Envoyé : vendredi 30 septembre 2011 11:15
À : BISSON Pascal
Cc : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu; GIDOIN Daniel; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro"
Objet : Re: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT UPDATE: Requests for joining the chapter projects by UC projects

Pascal,

   Calm down.

   First, let me clarify that what we agreed was that they will be able
to "read" our backlogs (at least to the Feature level).   But their
access would be "read-only" (that is, not able to issue tickets nor
manage them, of course)

   Indeed, they have this "read" access already just by logging into the
Wiki linked to the FI-WARE project in FusionForge.

   This is pragmatic but I would even say that "a must".   Actually, UC
projects have mentioned that they need to get access to the "official
FI-WARE backlog" because they want to avoid repeating work and, for
example, submit a request on a feature they realize we are taking care
of already.   That's a pretty reasonable request.

   We are members of a program targeted to achieve a clear goal .
Creating unnecessary barriers to cooperation between FI-PPP projects
doesn't have any sense.

   What we are right now analyzing whether we can play with member roles
(you can assign roles to members of a FusionForge project) and create a
"User" role with "read-only" privileges on tracker.   I wanted to keep
"on hold" any request for joining a project until we finish that
analysis (today).   That's all.   If we find that it's not feasible, we
will announce that we will reject them all (I would send an email to the
FI-PPP AB list) and will execute that action.

   Best regards,

Juanjo Hierro
Chief Technologist on Software Technologies
Telefonica R&D Labs

email: jhierro at tid.es
phone: +34 91 48 32932
www.tid.es
twitter.com/JuanjoHierro

Oeste 1, Planta 5. Distrito C
Ronda de la Comunicacion s/n
Madrid 28050
Spain


On 30/09/11 09:13, BISSON Pascal wrote:
> Dear Juanjo,
>
> At last GA we were told not to hold them, yesterday as well and now you told us to hold them and are even in favor to allow them to join.
>
> For me this is an important topic we should discuss at our next WPL/WPA audio.
>
> This to discuss the pros and cons and decide accordingly and collectively. End up with shared agreement on the topic.
>
> I don't want us to go too fast on this. ...We should go for a well structured and organized process both internally (with FI-WARE) and with Use Case projects. If not we will go into chaos and this is something we should absolutely avoid.
>
> This even more that in my view we have important things to discuss and collectively review before having them exposed (this is especially true as I said at GA for what concerns the Fi-WARE features backlog where there is  still a number of concerns at least from my side (also the one of Daniel as WPA or WP8) but also from Alex and maybe some others ...).
>
> This just to say we need next WPL/WPA audio to discuss and align on all these important topics.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pascal
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Juanjo Hierro
> Envoyé : vendredi 30 septembre 2011 08:08
> À : fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
> Objet : [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT UPDATE: Requests for joining the chapter projects by UC projects
>
> Hi,
>
>     You may be receiving requests for joining the chapter projects by
> people from UC projects.
>
>     Despite I told you yesterday you should reject them, please hold
> them.   In checking this now, but maybe the best approach will be that
> of allowing them to join but with a very restricted role.   This will be
> explained in the tutorials.
>
>     Regards,
>
> --
> Juanjo Hierro
> Chief Technologist on Software Technologies
> Telefonica R&D Labs
>
> email: jhierro at tid.es
> phone: +34 91 48 32932
> www.tid.es
> twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
>
> Oeste 1, Planta 5. Distrito C
> Ronda de la Comunicacion s/n
> Madrid 28050
> Spain
>
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