Dear all, Thorsten is right in asking what to do. Resubmission is not needed but we either way there is a new issue for April where we should have it clear how to handle it. They actually do not ask to resubmit because they expect to find a suitable new version with something more convincing. Thorsten did a good job or at least this is what I think, at least taking into account the situation. But the reviewers basically complain that the document does not serve its purpose. It is strongly related to Task 10.5 in the DoW if I am right and it is clear that the process did not reach the heights that we expected. The document clearly reflects it and this is why they object. Now we need to think what to do (if we can do anything at all). We need to discuss this maybe in the weekly call at WPL/WPA level (next week it will happen on Tuesday, due to a holiday on Monday in Spain) Best regards, Miguel El 12/03/2013 15:48, BISSON Pascal escribió: Hi Thorsten, For me D10.5.1 even if rejected doesn't require resubmission simply because as stated in the review report: "the next iterative version is due in the next review period. See the way things are stated on page 5 of the Review 4 report. =============================================== The following deliverables are rejected: * D2.4.1b (being a re-submission) * D4.1.1b (being a re-submission) * D4.5.1 * D5.1.1b (being a re-submission) * D10.4.1 * D10.5.1 * D10.5.1 None of the above deliverables requires resubmission, as the next iterative version is due in the next review period. As this is an interim review, no cost assessments are given. ====================================================== Best Regards, Pascal De : fiware-testbed-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-testbed-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-testbed-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] De la part de Sandfuchs, Thorsten Envoyé : mardi 12 mars 2013 13:21 À : fiware-testbed at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-testbed at lists.fi-ware.eu> Objet : [Fiware-testbed] Deliverable 10.5.1 rejected (was: FW: [Fiware-wpa] Fwd: FI-WARE 4th Review meeting: Outcome Letter & Review report) Dear colleagues, Can you please help me to understand what the reject of the Deliverable 10.5.1 "means"? Reviewers do reject our deliverable, but do not want any resubmissions, without giving clear guidance on how to mitigate the situation (relevant text attached below). They clearly see the discrepancy between the DoW and the work carried out, but as this was agreed on the AB level, I do not think that we have a major clinch here - or do we? At least the reviewers leave it open :( So what do YOU think we should do? I would be happy if we can setup a dedicated call on this review-report for WP10 in due time. Best regards, /Thorsten D10.5.1 Report on Validation Process including Validation with Use Case projects This deliverable outlines the designed and recommended validation process for the use cases to follow. Additionally the initial feedback survey, which was initiate and send to the use case projects and the main findings are outlined. The validation process described in the document is generally well thought and detailed; however, it has been devised without sufficient consideration of the FI-WARE project and FI-WARE Releases. The validation approach is also considered insufficient, in view of what is envisaged in the DoW in supporting Use Case projects on deployment, execution and validation of the conceptual prototypes in respect of the available GEs. According to the deliverable, the design phase of FI-WARE incorporates requirements that have been successfully communicated from the Use Cases Projects to the FI-WARE chapters. As the link between Use Case requirements and the actual content of the individual chapters is not readily traceable, this has a significant impact on the validation, and the extent to which the Agile best practices have been embraced. As explained in the document, there is no tight linkage between the defined requirements and the features provided by the GE providers. Hence, the validation and requirements evaluation will not be based on a requirements matrix, but will follow an open questionnaire approach. The available questionnaire is presently basic, and is a long way off from providing the validation required to enrich the characterisation of Use Case scenarios (as a contribution towards Phase 2 trials) and generally boost GE uptake. Additionally, how testing and evaluation would be conducted in relation to the non-functional capabilities that are listed for the first releases in the Technical Roadmap is yet to be described. Deliverable D10.5.1 is rejected. No re-submission is required, From: fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-wpa-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro Sent: Dienstag, 12. März 2013 12:14 To: fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> Subject: [Fiware-wpa] Fwd: FI-WARE 4th Review meeting: Outcome Letter & Review report Dear partners, I forward to you without even reading it yet to avoid any delay. I'll come to this after I read it carefully. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es<http://www.tid.es> email: jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es> twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: FI-WARE 4th Review meeting: Outcome Letter & Review report Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 10:43:05 +0000 From: <Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Vanessa.VANHUMBEECK at ec.europa.eu> To: <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es> CC: <CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu><mailto:CNECT-ICT-285248 at ec.europa.eu>, <Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu><mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu>, <mcp at tid.es><mailto:mcp at tid.es>, <subsidies at tid.es><mailto:subsidies at tid.es>, <msli at icfocus.co.uk><mailto:msli at icfocus.co.uk>, <irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com><mailto:irena.pavlova at isoft-technology.com>, <dgr at whitestein.com><mailto:dgr at whitestein.com>, <rdifrancesco at ymail.com><mailto:rdifrancesco at ymail.com> Dear Mr Hierro, Please find attached a scanned copy of the outcome letter and review report of project 285248 FI-WARE. 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