[Fiware-tools] VERY URGENT - Re: Fwd: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension of theproject duration

Sammodi, Osama osama.sammodi at paluno.uni-due.de
Fri Oct 25 12:36:43 CEST 2013


Hi Davide,

Also fine with us.

Kind regards,
Osama

> -----Original Message-----
> From: fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-tools-
> bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Scheibli, Daniel
> Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2013 11:29
> To: Davide Dalle Carbonare
> Cc: fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu
> Subject: Re: [Fiware-tools] VERY URGENT - Re: Fwd: [Fiware-wpl]
> IMPORTANT: Extension of theproject duration
> 
> Hi Davide,
> 
> 
> 
> fine with us.
> 
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-tools-
> bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Davide Dalle Carbonare
> Sent: Freitag, 25. Oktober 2013 10:10
> To: Pedro Rodriguez
> Cc: JuanQuemada; fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu
> Subject: Re: [Fiware-tools] VERY URGENT - Re: Fwd: [Fiware-wpl]
> IMPORTANT: Extension of theproject duration
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you Pedro,
> 
> I have also received the agreement from Marcel (IBM) with regards this last
> proposal.
> 
> BR
> Davide
> 
> On 25/10/2013 10:04, Pedro Rodriguez wrote:
> 
> 	Dear All,
> 
> 
> 
> 	Here at UPM, we agree with this last proposal (Davide’s). As far as
> the Catalogue goes, we will definitely have to provide support until all the
> deliverables (not only in this WP) are done so it makes sense to delay the
> deliverable until M36 and keep working on it.
> 
> 
> 
> 	Best Regards
> 
> 	--
> 	Pedro Rodriguez
> 
> 
> 
> 	On 24 Oct 2013 at 17:47:13, Davide Dalle Carbonare
> (davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it) wrote:
> 
> 		Dear partner,
> 		    taking into consideration Laura's mail and Daniel's
> comments, I invite you
> 		to evaluate this proposal and provide your comments
> promptly ...
> 
> 		D9.1 -> M36
> 		D9.2 -> M36
> 		D9.3 -> M33
> 		D9.4 -> M33
> 
> 		this allow us to have more time on D9.1 for development and
> support on Catalogue,
> 		eLearning platform and myForge and close D9.3 and D9.4 as
> originally planned.
> 		Extending the D9.2 may help us to have the time to
> incorporate the indications from
> 		the letter we're going to send to the commission. Here I ask
> Osama (as responsible for
> 		this deliverable) to express his opinion.
> 
> 		I ASK YOUR COMMENTS BY TOMORROW NOON
> 
> 		I remind you that the deadline for providing comments to
> Juanjo is tomorrow,
> 		otherwise we will send this proposal.
> 
> 		kind regards,
> 		Davide
> 
> 
> 
> 		On 24/10/2013 09:34, laura pucci wrote:
> 
> 			Dear Davide, dear all,
> 
> 			following the email coming by SAP, with respect to
> the extension (and new deadline of WP9 deliverables), for sure within WP9
> the situation is  a bit different, and goes also in parallel with the definition of
> possible new plans for each WP9 partner.
> 
> 			In particular, I’d like to share with you my doubts in
> postponing the deliverables deadlines to M36. I’ll try to explain why below,
> so to have your precious feedbacks on that.
> 
> 			As far as I understood from Juanjo, during the next
> Review (M30 Review) activities related to useless or not exploitable
> tools/GEs will be almost certainly stopped by the reviewers, and this should
> be true also for the Tools Chapter… BUT, given that the date of the review
> will most probably be in January, i.e. M33 of the project, there will be really
> few activities -  in WP9 - or deliverables that the Reviewers could freeze at
> that moment, since all SW (P) Deliverables will be submitted at M33.
> 
> 			Thus, the question here is, is it worthwhile to move
> all WP9 deliverables from M33 to M36 so to foster the possible reviewers'
> decision to stop them (thus cutting the remaining related effort)? If we keep
> the delivery date of D9.x.x series at M33, I guess it will be difficult for
> reviewers in January to stop an on-going work to release deliverables due in
> January.
> 
> 			Of course, these considerations could fit and make
> sense only if:
> 
> 			1)    Due deliverables at M33 will be released on-time
> 
> 			2)    New plans - on which each WP9 partner is arguing
> and thinking in these days - do not require to postpone the deadlines of
> those deliverables (delaying also activities). Thus, to understand these plans
> now it’s crucial  now, in order to understand the feasibility of a (possible)
> extension also for the Tools Chapter.
> 
> 
> 
> 			Please kindly let us know what is your thinking about
> my concerns.
> 
> 
> 
> 			With many thanks in advance for your attention.
> 
> 
> 
> 			Kind regards
> 
> 			Laura
> 
> 				----- Original Message -----
> 
> 				From: Scheibli, Daniel
> <mailto:daniel.scheibli at sap.com>
> 
> 				To: Davide Dalle Carbonare
> <mailto:davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it>
> 
> 				Cc: fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu
> <mailto:fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu>
> 
> 				Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 3:12 PM
> 
> 				Subject: Re: [Fiware-tools] Fwd: [Fiware-wpl]
> IMPORTANT: Extension of theproject duration
> 
> 
> 
> 				Dear Davide,
> 
> 
> 
> 				actually SAP has concerns regarding the
> extension and they are currently being addresses with the consortium
> management / Juanjo.
> 
> 
> 
> 				Regarding the move of M33 deliverables to
> M36, my question would be what the motivation is? Do we feel that we
> really need that
> 
> 				extra elapsed time? One down side will be,
> that it will definitively increase the expectations towards the outcome. Also I
> see the
> 
> 				danger that it further exposes the tools to
> the situation mentioned by Juanjo in the call we had with him last Thurday.
> 
> 
> 
> 				Best Regards,
> 				Daniel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 				From: fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu
> [mailto:fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Davide Dalle
> Carbonare
> 				Sent: Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2013 09:25
> 				To: fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu
> 				Subject: [Fiware-tools] Fwd: [Fiware-wpl]
> IMPORTANT: Extension of the project duration
> 
> 
> 
> 				Dear Partners,
> 				    please find below a main from Juanjo on
> the project extension.
> 				I also attach the list of deliverables with some
> updates I've done.
> 
> 				We already talked about the project
> extension during our lasts conf
> 				calls with all the partners are in favor of that.
> 				The shift of the dates for our deliverable is
> from M33 to M36 that
> 				sounds acceptable from my side.
> 				If you have some objection, please let me
> know in time to forward
> 				them to Juanjo.
> 
> 				kind regards,
> 				Davide
> 
> 
> 
> 				-------- Original Message --------
> 
> Subject:
> 
> [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension of the project duration
> 
> Date:
> 
> Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:36:09 +0200
> 
> From:
> 
> Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> <mailto:jhierro at tid.es>
> 
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> 
> 
> 				Hi all,
> 
> 				  As we have discussed a couple of times, the
> EC has suggested an extension of the FI-WARE project duration for at least 4
> additional months.   This was actually a recommendation given in the last
> review report.
> 
> 				  This was a topic that I have encouraged you
> to discuss with the teams in your respective chapters.
> 
> 				  During our meetings, it was also agreed that
> extension of the project would mean a request to move the dates of those
> deliverables linked to release of software and accompanying documentation
> so that they change to be month 36 instead of 33.   Those deliverables linked
> to deployment of software on the FI-PPP Testbed and FI-LAB which were
> planned for month 36 would also be delayed until month 40.   We didn't
> discuss this but I guess we would agree that some of the final reports to be
> produced should also be delayed from month 36 until month 40.
> 
> 				  So far, the only feedback I have got is that
> partners would be ok for the proposed extension, provided the mentioned
> changes in deliverable dates are incorporated.
> 
> 				  With all these considerations in mind, I have
> produced the attached updated version of the Deliverable List.   Changes are
> highlighted so that you can easily track them.   Of course, your feedback is
> welcome.
> 
> 				  Unless I hear about any objection from your
> side before this Friday EOB, I will submit an official  response to the EC
> announcing our agreement to extend the project duration another 4 months
> (i.e., until end of August 2014), provided the changes we propose in the
> deliverable dates are accepted.    I will use the attached table as basis
> although I'm happy to incorporate some additional changes you may consider
> necessary.
> 
> 				  Best regards,
> 
> 
> 
> 				-- Juanjo
> 
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