Hi Davide, all, Yes, I think that it is quite important to have a (GoTo)meeting this afternoon and take a definitive decision. We are available from 14:30 to 17:00. Best regards, Javier 2015-03-26 10:02 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es>: > Hi Davide, > > I kindly suggest that you explain your definitive position during the > confcall we have right now. For the moment, what you are saying is > completely incompatible with your current time plan proposal. Even more, > the last bullet is contradictory with the previous ones (leaves everything > uncertain). Are you saying that you will change your time plan proposal to > accommodate it to my requests (i.e. moving stage 3 to stage 1)? > > Best regards, > Javier > > 2015-03-26 9:53 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>: > >> Hi Javier >> I'm sorry, but join.me today doesn't allow to connect me by voice. >> Maybe we can schedule a gotomeeting session this afternoon? >> In the meanwhile, I want to clarify that: >> - we want to grant you full access to the demo environment (for this >> reason I will enforce the idea of using FIWARE Lab) >> - we want to have you involved from the very beginning >> - we want to have all your GEs in place according to your time schedule >> - regarding the Premium datasets and Wirecloud integration, we can >> definitely discuss about that. >> Thanks and best regards >> Davide >> >> >> >> Il 26/03/2015 09:43, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto: >> >> Hi Javier >> can we have a quick call? here is the link >> https://join.me/818-581-954 >> Thanks and best regards >> Davide >> >> >> Il 26/03/2015 01:16, Javier Soriano ha scritto: >> >> Hi Davide, >> >> Perhaps I am wrong and it is only a misunderstanding, but I can not >> understand your plan for the Live Demo as it is described in the time plan >> you have shared with us and I think that it is better to clarify it now (at >> the risk of being too rough, I have to say). After reading it, I have the >> feeling (it is explicitly said in your plan) that you do not intend to >> create from the 1st stage a "real" demo that integrates the use of ours GEs >> but a "separate" demo focused on your own GE, despite demonstrating the >> integrated use of different GEs is the main objective of these demos. Are >> you aware that all the features described for the scenario in the >> deliverable are posponed until Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the >> project). What are we supposed to show before that? What am I supposed to >> plan for the first stages? >> >> Then, it is not a question of adding our own planning but, instead, a >> question of thinking what can we do with Finesce on our side alone, >> "without any connection with your GE" (excerpt from your own text when read >> from our perspective). What do you think we can do with an existing demo we >> do not know (we have never seen its code, we have never seen it running >> before, nobody has made a demo for us, we are aware that the current data >> has to be anonymized)? And, again, bearing in mind that all the features >> described for the scenario in the deliverable are posponed until Stage 3 >> (i.e. the last month of the project), what are we supposed to show before >> that? what am I supposed to plan for the first stages? >> >> Being that your plan, the only thing we can do is wait until Stage 3 >> (the last month of the project!!!) to have a real integrated demo and focus >> on the rest of demos for the first stages. But, do you really intend to >> show SpagoBI alone (in the context of the apps chapter, the only chapter >> involved in the demo) in the demo until the very last minute? >> >> IMHO what we have to do is to prioritize the integrated use of the GEs, >> i.e. moving the content of Stage 3 to Stage 1. We can try to create a time >> plan jointly with you, but this will require a couple of coordination >> meeting (can it be tomorrow at 9:30 with me and this Friday at 9:30 with >> the rest of my team?), but in the meantime, and bearing in mind the way of >> thinking that you have provoked on me saying that you do not intend to >> integrate our GEs until the last stage of the demo (for the last month of >> the project!!!), we need an explicit commitment from your side, without >> which we can not agree on participating in this demo: >> >> *- You (Engineering) agree on moving the content of Stage 3 to Stage 1 >> so that we can be sure that we will be part of the demo from the very >> beginning (it makes no sense to think about demos inside the demo). This >> implies that you will work from the very beginning on the creation of new >> premium datasets from the existing datasets (so that we can create and >> operate new data APIs and their related offerings from those premium >> datasets), and on that you will work (probably starting on stage 2) on >> performing analytics on the data we will provide about the use of APIs >> being offered through the store (accounting, payments-per-use, revenue >> sharings, etc. regarding the use of those premium data APIs).* >> >> (Please do not misinterpret the following bullets, they do not intend >> to sow suspicion, but to anticipate possible problems that could eventually >> arise as a consequence of a current lack of awareness) >> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the source code and >> all the related documentation available for the demo on top of which you >> have described the scenario for the Business demo. You also agree on >> granting us access to a working installation of that demo, with full >> privileges. >> - You (Engineering) agree on sharing with us all the videos available >> that can help us to understand the current demo, and a couple of demo >> sessions to show us the demo and to explain the necessary details to allow >> us to know where is the information, which datasets are available, >> implemented functionality, etc. >> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the current datasets >> available in the demo, and agree on releasing on time (i.e. during the 1st >> stage) all the "anonymizing" code necessary for those datasets that require >> such anonymization (this can be considered as a subtask of the generation >> of premium datasets). Otherwise we could not use that data, nor have access >> to any data indeed. >> >> And, last but not least, we also have to discuss an additional point: >> during the kickoff meeting we agreed on the need to integrate Wirecloud >> with SpagoBI so that we could use Wirecloud as a tool to create web >> dashboards from SpagoBI visualizations (and then ease their publication in >> external web portals, etc.). This feature is very interesting for the demo >> and it is my intention to plan it, but afaik you still have not created any >> epic/feature in this regard. What are you planning in this regard? We will >> be happy to help. >> >> Best regards, >> Javier >> >> 2015-03-20 16:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>: >> >>> Hi Javier >>> I wrote a time plan for the Live Demo for what concerns SpagoBI: >>> >>> *Stage 1 (M13): the live demo will show Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) analytical >>> capabilities as a stand-alone GE (i.e. without any connection with the >>> other GEs), plus some usage scenarios involving other GEs, i.e. analyses >>> built on top of the Data Portal GE (CKAN) and the Context Broker GE >>> (Orion).* >>> *Stage 2 (M18): we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) to be able to >>> perform analyses on the Big Data Analysis GE (COSMOS).* >>> *Stage 3 (M25): **we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI)** for performing >>> data analytics on the use of the data being offered by the Store GE >>> (WStore), plus the creation of "Premium" datasets.* >>> >>> I didn't put it on the final document yet. >>> Could you please send me some information for the planning of your >>> contributions? Are you going to put all your GEs in place for the first >>> release, and then add additional functionalities? >>> >>> Thanks and best regards >>> Davide >>> >>> >>> >>> Il 20/03/2015 10:05, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto: >>> >>> Hi all >>> Ilknur asked me to define a time plan for the Business demo, and >>> therefore I have to mix contributions from our colleagues working on >>> FINESCE project, SpagoBI team contributions, and contribution from UPM. >>> What do you foresee for live demos? do you foresee more releases? do you >>> have any time plan in mind? >>> Thanks and best regards >>> Davide >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> *Davide Zerbetto* >>> SpagoBI Consultant >>> >>> *SpagoBI Labs Engineering Group* >>> Corso Stati Uniti, 23/C - 35127 Padua - Italy >>> Phone: +39 049 8283411 >>> Fax: +39-049.8700272 >>> www.spagobi.org - www.eng.it <http://www.eng.it/web/eng_en/home> >>> Respect the environment. 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