Hi Davide, I have created this Google doc with an working version of the time plan that integrates all the GEs, so that we could discuss it this afternoon. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Ac_TLoYJWGf0LMGRmxyU7gWmBaNncQeg3sZYQJ3fs8/edit?usp=sharing Best regards, Javier 2015-03-26 10:43 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es>: > Hi Davide, all, > > Yes, I think that it is quite important to have a (GoTo)meeting this > afternoon and take a definitive decision. We are available from 14:30 to > 17:00. > > Best regards, > Javier > > 2015-03-26 10:02 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es>: > >> Hi Davide, >> >> I kindly suggest that you explain your definitive position during the >> confcall we have right now. For the moment, what you are saying is >> completely incompatible with your current time plan proposal. Even more, >> the last bullet is contradictory with the previous ones (leaves everything >> uncertain). Are you saying that you will change your time plan proposal to >> accommodate it to my requests (i.e. moving stage 3 to stage 1)? >> >> Best regards, >> Javier >> >> 2015-03-26 9:53 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>: >> >>> Hi Javier >>> I'm sorry, but join.me today doesn't allow to connect me by voice. >>> Maybe we can schedule a gotomeeting session this afternoon? >>> In the meanwhile, I want to clarify that: >>> - we want to grant you full access to the demo environment (for this >>> reason I will enforce the idea of using FIWARE Lab) >>> - we want to have you involved from the very beginning >>> - we want to have all your GEs in place according to your time schedule >>> - regarding the Premium datasets and Wirecloud integration, we can >>> definitely discuss about that. >>> Thanks and best regards >>> Davide >>> >>> >>> >>> Il 26/03/2015 09:43, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto: >>> >>> Hi Javier >>> can we have a quick call? here is the link >>> https://join.me/818-581-954 >>> Thanks and best regards >>> Davide >>> >>> >>> Il 26/03/2015 01:16, Javier Soriano ha scritto: >>> >>> Hi Davide, >>> >>> Perhaps I am wrong and it is only a misunderstanding, but I can not >>> understand your plan for the Live Demo as it is described in the time plan >>> you have shared with us and I think that it is better to clarify it now (at >>> the risk of being too rough, I have to say). After reading it, I have the >>> feeling (it is explicitly said in your plan) that you do not intend to >>> create from the 1st stage a "real" demo that integrates the use of ours GEs >>> but a "separate" demo focused on your own GE, despite demonstrating the >>> integrated use of different GEs is the main objective of these demos. Are >>> you aware that all the features described for the scenario in the >>> deliverable are posponed until Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the >>> project). What are we supposed to show before that? What am I supposed to >>> plan for the first stages? >>> >>> Then, it is not a question of adding our own planning but, instead, a >>> question of thinking what can we do with Finesce on our side alone, >>> "without any connection with your GE" (excerpt from your own text when read >>> from our perspective). What do you think we can do with an existing demo we >>> do not know (we have never seen its code, we have never seen it running >>> before, nobody has made a demo for us, we are aware that the current data >>> has to be anonymized)? And, again, bearing in mind that all the >>> features described for the scenario in the deliverable are posponed until >>> Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the project), what are we supposed to show >>> before that? what am I supposed to plan for the first stages? >>> >>> Being that your plan, the only thing we can do is wait until Stage 3 >>> (the last month of the project!!!) to have a real integrated demo and focus >>> on the rest of demos for the first stages. But, do you really intend to >>> show SpagoBI alone (in the context of the apps chapter, the only chapter >>> involved in the demo) in the demo until the very last minute? >>> >>> IMHO what we have to do is to prioritize the integrated use of the >>> GEs, i.e. moving the content of Stage 3 to Stage 1. We can try to create a >>> time plan jointly with you, but this will require a couple of coordination >>> meeting (can it be tomorrow at 9:30 with me and this Friday at 9:30 with >>> the rest of my team?), but in the meantime, and bearing in mind the way of >>> thinking that you have provoked on me saying that you do not intend to >>> integrate our GEs until the last stage of the demo (for the last month of >>> the project!!!), we need an explicit commitment from your side, without >>> which we can not agree on participating in this demo: >>> >>> *- You (Engineering) agree on moving the content of Stage 3 to Stage 1 >>> so that we can be sure that we will be part of the demo from the very >>> beginning (it makes no sense to think about demos inside the demo). This >>> implies that you will work from the very beginning on the creation of new >>> premium datasets from the existing datasets (so that we can create and >>> operate new data APIs and their related offerings from those premium >>> datasets), and on that you will work (probably starting on stage 2) on >>> performing analytics on the data we will provide about the use of APIs >>> being offered through the store (accounting, payments-per-use, revenue >>> sharings, etc. regarding the use of those premium data APIs).* >>> >>> (Please do not misinterpret the following bullets, they do not intend >>> to sow suspicion, but to anticipate possible problems that could eventually >>> arise as a consequence of a current lack of awareness) >>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the source code and >>> all the related documentation available for the demo on top of which you >>> have described the scenario for the Business demo. You also agree on >>> granting us access to a working installation of that demo, with full >>> privileges. >>> - You (Engineering) agree on sharing with us all the videos available >>> that can help us to understand the current demo, and a couple of demo >>> sessions to show us the demo and to explain the necessary details to allow >>> us to know where is the information, which datasets are available, >>> implemented functionality, etc. >>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the current datasets >>> available in the demo, and agree on releasing on time (i.e. during the 1st >>> stage) all the "anonymizing" code necessary for those datasets that require >>> such anonymization (this can be considered as a subtask of the generation >>> of premium datasets). Otherwise we could not use that data, nor have access >>> to any data indeed. >>> >>> And, last but not least, we also have to discuss an additional point: >>> during the kickoff meeting we agreed on the need to integrate Wirecloud >>> with SpagoBI so that we could use Wirecloud as a tool to create web >>> dashboards from SpagoBI visualizations (and then ease their publication in >>> external web portals, etc.). This feature is very interesting for the demo >>> and it is my intention to plan it, but afaik you still have not created any >>> epic/feature in this regard. What are you planning in this regard? We will >>> be happy to help. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Javier >>> >>> 2015-03-20 16:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>: >>> >>>> Hi Javier >>>> I wrote a time plan for the Live Demo for what concerns SpagoBI: >>>> >>>> *Stage 1 (M13): the live demo will show Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) >>>> analytical capabilities as a stand-alone GE (i.e. without any connection >>>> with the other GEs), plus some usage scenarios involving other GEs, i.e. >>>> analyses built on top of the Data Portal GE (CKAN) and the Context Broker >>>> GE (Orion).* >>>> *Stage 2 (M18): we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) to be able to >>>> perform analyses on the Big Data Analysis GE (COSMOS).* >>>> *Stage 3 (M25): **we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI)** for >>>> performing data analytics on the use of the data being offered by the Store >>>> GE (WStore), plus the creation of "Premium" datasets.* >>>> >>>> I didn't put it on the final document yet. >>>> Could you please send me some information for the planning of your >>>> contributions? Are you going to put all your GEs in place for the first >>>> release, and then add additional functionalities? >>>> >>>> Thanks and best regards >>>> Davide >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Il 20/03/2015 10:05, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto: >>>> >>>> Hi all >>>> Ilknur asked me to define a time plan for the Business demo, and >>>> therefore I have to mix contributions from our colleagues working on >>>> FINESCE project, SpagoBI team contributions, and contribution from UPM. >>>> What do you foresee for live demos? do you foresee more releases? do >>>> you have any time plan in mind? >>>> Thanks and best regards >>>> Davide >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> *Davide Zerbetto* >>>> SpagoBI Consultant >>>> >>>> *SpagoBI Labs Engineering Group* >>>> Corso Stati Uniti, 23/C - 35127 Padua - Italy >>>> Phone: +39 049 8283411 >>>> Fax: +39-049.8700272 >>>> www.spagobi.org - www.eng.it <http://www.eng.it/web/eng_en/home> >>>> Respect the environment. 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