hi all
here is the link of the meeting. Can we start in 5 minutes?
https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/892751005
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Thanks and best regards
Davide
Il 26/03/2015 12:06, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
> Hi Davide,
>
> I have created this Google doc with an working version of the time
> plan that integrates all the GEs, so that we could discuss it this
> afternoon.
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Ac_TLoYJWGf0LMGRmxyU7gWmBaNncQeg3sZYQJ3fs8/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Best regards,
> Javier
>
> 2015-03-26 10:43 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es
> <mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es>>:
>
> Hi Davide, all,
>
> Yes, I think that it is quite important to have a (GoTo)meeting
> this afternoon and take a definitive decision. We are available
> from 14:30 to 17:00.
>
> Best regards,
> Javier
>
> 2015-03-26 10:02 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es
> <mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es>>:
>
> Hi Davide,
>
> I kindly suggest that you explain your definitive position
> during the confcall we have right now. For the moment, what
> you are saying is completely incompatible with your current
> time plan proposal. Even more, the last bullet is
> contradictory with the previous ones (leaves everything
> uncertain). Are you saying that you will change your time plan
> proposal to accommodate it to my requests (i.e. moving stage 3
> to stage 1)?
>
> Best regards,
> Javier
>
> 2015-03-26 9:53 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto
> <davide.zerbetto at eng.it <mailto:davide.zerbetto at eng.it>>:
>
> Hi Javier
> I'm sorry, but join.me <http://join.me> today doesn't
> allow to connect me by voice.
> Maybe we can schedule a gotomeeting session this afternoon?
> In the meanwhile, I want to clarify that:
> - we want to grant you full access to the demo environment
> (for this reason I will enforce the idea of using FIWARE Lab)
> - we want to have you involved from the very beginning
> - we want to have all your GEs in place according to your
> time schedule
> - regarding the Premium datasets and Wirecloud
> integration, we can definitely discuss about that.
> Thanks and best regards
> Davide
>
>
>
> Il 26/03/2015 09:43, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto:
>> Hi Javier
>> can we have a quick call? here is the link
>> https://join.me/818-581-954
>> Thanks and best regards
>> Davide
>>
>>
>> Il 26/03/2015 01:16, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>>> Hi Davide,
>>>
>>> Perhaps I am wrong and it is only a misunderstanding,
>>> but I can not understand your plan for the Live Demo as
>>> it is described in the time plan you have shared with us
>>> and I think that it is better to clarify it now (at the
>>> risk of being too rough, I have to say). After reading
>>> it, I have the feeling (it is explicitly said in your
>>> plan) that you do not intend to create from the 1st
>>> stage a "real" demo that integrates the use of ours GEs
>>> but a "separate" demo focused on your own GE, despite
>>> demonstrating the integrated use of different GEs is the
>>> main objective of these demos. Are you aware that all
>>> the features described for the scenario in the
>>> deliverable are posponed until Stage 3 (i.e. the last
>>> month of the project). What are we supposed to show
>>> before that? What am I supposed to plan for the first
>>> stages?
>>>
>>> Then, it is not a question of adding our own planning
>>> but, instead, a question of thinking what can we do with
>>> Finesce on our side alone, "without any connection with
>>> your GE" (excerpt from your own text when read from our
>>> perspective). What do you think we can do with an
>>> existing demo we do not know (we have never seen its
>>> code, we have never seen it running before, nobody has
>>> made a demo for us, we are aware that the current data
>>> has to be anonymized)? And, again, bearing in mind
>>> that all the features described for the scenario in the
>>> deliverable are posponed until Stage 3 (i.e. the last
>>> month of the project), what are we supposed to show
>>> before that? what am I supposed to plan for the first
>>> stages?
>>>
>>> Being that your plan, the only thing we can do is wait
>>> until Stage 3 (the last month of the project!!!) to have
>>> a real integrated demo and focus on the rest of demos
>>> for the first stages. But, do you really intend to show
>>> SpagoBI alone (in the context of the apps chapter, the
>>> only chapter involved in the demo) in the demo until the
>>> very last minute?
>>>
>>> IMHO what we have to do is to prioritize the integrated
>>> use of the GEs, i.e. moving the content of Stage 3 to
>>> Stage 1. We can try to create a time plan jointly with
>>> you, but this will require a couple of coordination
>>> meeting (can it be tomorrow at 9:30 with me and this
>>> Friday at 9:30 with the rest of my team?), but in the
>>> meantime, and bearing in mind the way of thinking that
>>> you have provoked on me saying that you do not intend to
>>> integrate our GEs until the last stage of the demo (for
>>> the last month of the project!!!), we need an explicit
>>> commitment from your side, without which we can not
>>> agree on participating in this demo:
>>>
>>> *- You (Engineering) agree on moving the content of
>>> Stage 3 to Stage 1 so that we can be sure that we will
>>> be part of the demo from the very beginning (it makes no
>>> sense to think about demos inside the demo). This
>>> implies that you will work from the very beginning on
>>> the creation of new premium datasets from the existing
>>> datasets (so that we can create and operate new data
>>> APIs and their related offerings from those premium
>>> datasets), and on that you will work (probably starting
>>> on stage 2) on performing analytics on the data we will
>>> provide about the use of APIs being offered through the
>>> store (accounting, payments-per-use, revenue sharings,
>>> etc. regarding the use of those premium data APIs).*
>>>
>>> (Please do not misinterpret the following bullets, they
>>> do not intend to sow suspicion, but to anticipate
>>> possible problems that could eventually arise as a
>>> consequence of a current lack of awareness)
>>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the
>>> source code and all the related documentation available
>>> for the demo on top of which you have described the
>>> scenario for the Business demo. You also agree on
>>> granting us access to a working installation of that
>>> demo, with full privileges.
>>> - You (Engineering) agree on sharing with us all the
>>> videos available that can help us to understand the
>>> current demo, and a couple of demo sessions to show us
>>> the demo and to explain the necessary details to allow
>>> us to know where is the information, which datasets are
>>> available, implemented functionality, etc.
>>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the
>>> current datasets available in the demo, and agree on
>>> releasing on time (i.e. during the 1st stage) all the
>>> "anonymizing" code necessary for those datasets that
>>> require such anonymization (this can be considered as a
>>> subtask of the generation of premium datasets).
>>> Otherwise we could not use that data, nor have access to
>>> any data indeed.
>>>
>>> And, last but not least, we also have to discuss an
>>> additional point: during the kickoff meeting we agreed
>>> on the need to integrate Wirecloud with SpagoBI so that
>>> we could use Wirecloud as a tool to create web
>>> dashboards from SpagoBI visualizations (and then ease
>>> their publication in external web portals, etc.). This
>>> feature is very interesting for the demo and it is my
>>> intention to plan it, but afaik you still have not
>>> created any epic/feature in this regard. What are you
>>> planning in this regard? We will be happy to help.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Javier
>>>
>>> 2015-03-20 16:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto
>>> <davide.zerbetto at eng.it <mailto:davide.zerbetto at eng.it>>:
>>>
>>> Hi Javier
>>> I wrote a time plan for the Live Demo for what
>>> concerns SpagoBI:
>>> /
>>> //Stage 1 (M13): the live demo will show Data Viz GE
>>> (SpagoBI) analytical capabilities as a stand-alone
>>> GE (i.e. without any connection with the other GEs),
>>> plus some usage scenarios involving other GEs, i.e.
>>> analyses built on top of the Data Portal GE (CKAN)
>>> and the Context Broker GE (Orion).//
>>> //Stage 2 (M18): we'll enrich ///Data Viz GE
>>> (SpagoBI) /to be able to perform analyses on the Big
>>> Data Analysis GE (COSMOS).//
>>> //Stage 3 (M25): //we'll enrich ///Data Viz GE
>>> (SpagoBI)/////for performing data analytics on the
>>> use of the data being offered by the Store GE
>>> (WStore), plus the creation of "Premium" datasets./
>>>
>>> I didn't put it on the final document yet.
>>> Could you please send me some information for the
>>> planning of your contributions? Are you going to put
>>> all your GEs in place for the first release, and
>>> then add additional functionalities?
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards
>>> Davide
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Il 20/03/2015 10:05, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto:
>>>> Hi all
>>>> Ilknur asked me to define a time plan for the
>>>> Business demo, and therefore I have to mix
>>>> contributions from our colleagues working on
>>>> FINESCE project, SpagoBI team contributions, and
>>>> contribution from UPM.
>>>> What do you foresee for live demos? do you foresee
>>>> more releases? do you have any time plan in mind?
>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>> Davide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>> SpagoBI Consultant
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