[Fiware-apps] Live demo: time plan

Álvaro Arranz aarranz at conwet.com
Thu Mar 26 14:39:40 CET 2015


Hi Davide,

we cannot start until 15:00, is it possible to have it at 15 o'clock or we
need to reschedule it?

Best regards,
Álvaro

On 26 March 2015 at 14:33, Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it> wrote:

>  hi all
> here is the link of the meeting. Can we start in 5 minutes?
> https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/892751005
>
>    -   Italy: +39 0 553 98 95 67
>     Spain: +34 931 81 6669
>     *Access cose:* 892-751-005
>
>  Thanks and best regards
> Davide
>
> Il 26/03/2015 12:06, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>
> Hi Davide,
>
>  I have created this Google doc with an working version of the time plan
> that integrates all the GEs, so that we could discuss it this afternoon.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-Ac_TLoYJWGf0LMGRmxyU7gWmBaNncQeg3sZYQJ3fs8/edit?usp=sharing
>
>  Best regards,
> Javier
>
> 2015-03-26 10:43 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es>:
>
>> Hi Davide, all,
>>
>>  Yes, I think that it is quite important to have a (GoTo)meeting this
>> afternoon and take a definitive decision. We are available from 14:30 to
>> 17:00.
>>
>>  Best regards,
>> Javier
>>
>> 2015-03-26 10:02 GMT+01:00 Javier Soriano <jsoriano at fi.upm.es>:
>>
>>> Hi Davide,
>>>
>>>  I kindly suggest that you explain your definitive position during the
>>> confcall we have right now. For the moment, what you are saying is
>>> completely incompatible with your current time plan proposal. Even more,
>>> the last bullet is contradictory with the previous ones (leaves everything
>>> uncertain). Are you saying that you will change your time plan proposal to
>>> accommodate it to my requests (i.e. moving stage 3 to stage 1)?
>>>
>>>  Best regards,
>>> Javier
>>>
>>> 2015-03-26 9:53 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>:
>>>
>>>>  Hi Javier
>>>> I'm sorry, but join.me today doesn't allow to connect me by voice.
>>>> Maybe we can schedule a gotomeeting session this afternoon?
>>>> In the meanwhile, I want to clarify that:
>>>> - we want to grant you full access to the demo environment (for this
>>>> reason I will enforce the idea of using FIWARE Lab)
>>>> - we want to have you involved from the very beginning
>>>> - we want to have all your GEs in place according to your time schedule
>>>> - regarding the Premium datasets and Wirecloud integration, we can
>>>> definitely discuss about that.
>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>> Davide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Il 26/03/2015 09:43, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Javier
>>>> can we have a quick call? here is the link
>>>> https://join.me/818-581-954
>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>> Davide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il 26/03/2015 01:16, Javier Soriano ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Davide,
>>>>
>>>>  Perhaps I am wrong and it is only a misunderstanding, but I can not
>>>> understand your plan for the Live Demo as it is described in the time plan
>>>> you have shared with us and I think that it is better to clarify it now (at
>>>> the risk of being too rough, I have to say). After reading it, I have the
>>>> feeling (it is explicitly said in your plan) that you do not intend to
>>>> create from the 1st stage a "real" demo that integrates the use of ours GEs
>>>> but a "separate" demo focused on your own GE,  despite demonstrating the
>>>> integrated use of different GEs is the main objective of these demos. Are
>>>> you aware that all the features described for the scenario in the
>>>> deliverable are posponed until Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the
>>>> project). What are we supposed to show before that? What am I supposed to
>>>> plan for the first stages?
>>>>
>>>>  Then, it is not a question of adding our own planning but, instead, a
>>>> question of thinking what can we do with Finesce on our side alone,
>>>> "without any connection with your GE" (excerpt from your own text when read
>>>> from our perspective). What do you think we can do with an existing demo we
>>>> do not know (we have never seen its code, we have never seen it running
>>>> before, nobody has made a demo for us, we are aware that the current data
>>>> has to be anonymized)? And, again, bearing in mind that all the
>>>> features described for the scenario in the deliverable are posponed until
>>>> Stage 3 (i.e. the last month of the project), what are we supposed to show
>>>> before that? what am I supposed to plan for the first stages?
>>>>
>>>>  Being that your plan, the only thing we can do is wait until Stage 3
>>>> (the last month of the project!!!) to have a real integrated demo and focus
>>>> on the rest of demos for the first stages. But, do you really intend to
>>>> show SpagoBI alone (in the context of the apps chapter, the only chapter
>>>> involved in the demo) in the demo until the very last minute?
>>>>
>>>>  IMHO what we have to do is to prioritize the integrated use of the
>>>> GEs, i.e. moving the content of Stage 3 to Stage 1. We can try to create a
>>>> time plan jointly with you, but this will require a couple of coordination
>>>> meeting (can it be tomorrow at 9:30 with me and this Friday at 9:30 with
>>>> the rest of my team?), but in the meantime, and bearing in mind the way of
>>>> thinking that you have provoked on me saying that you do not intend to
>>>> integrate our GEs until the last stage of the demo (for the last month of
>>>> the project!!!), we need an explicit commitment from your side, without
>>>> which we can not agree on participating in this demo:
>>>>
>>>>  *- You (Engineering) agree on moving the content of Stage 3 to Stage
>>>> 1 so that we can be sure that we will be part of the demo from the very
>>>> beginning (it makes no sense to think about demos inside the demo). This
>>>> implies that you will work from the very beginning on the creation of new
>>>> premium datasets from the existing datasets (so that we can create and
>>>> operate new data APIs and their related offerings from those premium
>>>> datasets), and on that you will work (probably starting on stage 2) on
>>>> performing analytics on the data we will provide about the use of APIs
>>>> being offered through the store (accounting, payments-per-use, revenue
>>>> sharings, etc. regarding the use of those premium data APIs).*
>>>>
>>>>  (Please do not misinterpret the following bullets, they do not intend
>>>> to sow suspicion, but to anticipate possible problems that could eventually
>>>> arise as a consequence of a current lack of awareness)
>>>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the source code and
>>>> all the related documentation available for the demo on top of which you
>>>> have described the scenario for the Business demo. You also agree on
>>>> granting us access to a working installation of that demo, with full
>>>> privileges.
>>>> - You (Engineering) agree on sharing with us all the videos available
>>>> that can help us to understand the current demo, and a couple of demo
>>>> sessions to show us the demo and to explain the necessary details to allow
>>>> us to know where is the information, which datasets are available,
>>>> implemented functionality, etc.
>>>> - You (Engineering) agree on granting us access to the current datasets
>>>> available in the demo, and agree on releasing on time (i.e. during the 1st
>>>> stage) all the "anonymizing" code necessary for those datasets that require
>>>> such anonymization (this can be considered as a subtask of the generation
>>>> of premium datasets). Otherwise we could not use that data, nor have access
>>>> to any data indeed.
>>>>
>>>>  And, last but not least, we also have to discuss an additional point:
>>>> during the kickoff meeting we agreed on the need to integrate Wirecloud
>>>> with SpagoBI so that we could use Wirecloud as a tool to create web
>>>> dashboards from SpagoBI visualizations (and then ease their publication in
>>>> external web portals, etc.). This feature is very interesting for the demo
>>>> and it is my intention to plan it, but afaik you still have not created any
>>>> epic/feature in this regard. What are you planning in this regard? We will
>>>> be happy to help.
>>>>
>>>>  Best regards,
>>>> Javier
>>>>
>>>> 2015-03-20 16:52 GMT+01:00 Davide Zerbetto <davide.zerbetto at eng.it>:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Javier
>>>>> I wrote a time plan for the Live Demo for what concerns SpagoBI:
>>>>>
>>>>> *Stage 1 (M13): the live demo will show Data Viz GE (SpagoBI)
>>>>> analytical capabilities as a stand-alone GE (i.e. without any connection
>>>>> with the other GEs), plus some usage scenarios involving other GEs, i.e.
>>>>> analyses built on top of the Data Portal GE (CKAN) and the Context Broker
>>>>> GE (Orion).*
>>>>> *Stage 2 (M18): we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI) to be able to
>>>>> perform analyses on the Big Data Analysis GE (COSMOS).*
>>>>> *Stage 3 (M25): **we'll enrich **Data Viz GE (SpagoBI)** for
>>>>> performing data analytics on the use of the data being offered by the Store
>>>>> GE (WStore), plus the creation of "Premium" datasets.*
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't put it on the final document yet.
>>>>> Could you please send me some information for the planning of your
>>>>> contributions? Are you going to put all your GEs in place for the first
>>>>> release, and then add additional functionalities?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>> Davide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Il 20/03/2015 10:05, Davide Zerbetto ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi all
>>>>> Ilknur asked me to define a time plan for the Business demo, and
>>>>> therefore I have to mix contributions from our colleagues working on
>>>>> FINESCE project, SpagoBI team contributions, and contribution from UPM.
>>>>> What do you foresee for live demos? do you foresee more releases? do
>>>>> you have any time plan in mind?
>>>>> Thanks and best regards
>>>>> Davide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> *Davide Zerbetto*
>>>>> SpagoBI Consultant
>>>>>
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>>>>> *Davide Zerbetto*
>>>>> SpagoBI Consultant
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> Phone: +39 049 8283411 <%2B39%20049%208283411>
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> *Davide Zerbetto*
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>
> *SpagoBI Labs Engineering Group*
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