Hi Miguel, I am sure that people will land on FI-LAB independently of the FI-WARE web pages and thus my request to link the two. An About Page would be a good way to do this. I would still argue to have the main landing page go to that overview, so people get the context first. Prominently placing an overview video and links to the tutorials there would be my way of organizing the web page instead of showing a specific tutorial first (what is what I saw). But its your decision, of course. Regarding the place of the FI-LAB for UC projects: FI-LAB will be very important for us (FI-Content) as we are producing a platform that is to be used by external developers (such as game developers, artists, etc) to create their own applications. Since they will not be able to access the testbed, we have to deploy all relevant SEs and apps on FI-LAB, so they can actually be used by these external people. We have started with 3 SEs so far and the experience has been positive. As raised in the last AB, we may have to discuss this use of FI-LAB in a bit more detail. I actually would be surprised if other UCs would not have to use the same model as they progress (how else do they want to engage with external developers). Particularly, we may also need larger quotas for this work (so far we are just acting as independent FI-LAB users, which is fine for now). I am not sure what the best place is to have that discussion and to what degree this use has been taken into account in the design of FI-LAB. Best, Philipp Am 07.11.2013 12:19, schrieb Miguel Carrillo: > Dear Philipp, > > Thanks for taking the trouble to write to us and provide feedback. > > We have experienced a lot of trouble in the past with our multiple > websites. Even if you put all the info there, people complain that they > do not find it unless it is under their very nose! :) This is why this > time we put the tutorials in the foreground with no need to navigate to > reach them. This is something we need to keep unless we want to get > complaints and queries all the time. > > But you are right that this could be improved taking into consideration > these more than reasonable inputs. > > * We will consider adding a new tab with something like "what is > this about?" (and we will give the context and pointers to the > resources) > * I will try to get people to add a link to the catalogue - the > place with part of the info you are missing here (FI-WARE > Architecture, APIs, ...) > > I am not sure if you imply that FI-LAB is the default place to work for > the UCs. Just to clarify, FI-LAB is open to everyone, PPP member or not, > and the PPP members are primarily expected to use the Testbed. If there > is something PPP restricted be sure that you will have it on the testbed > but not on FI-LAB. If you are a FI-WARE member and a UC member and this > is not clear to you, it would be a signal that we need to clarify > something. As I guess that you attend the PPP Architecture Board > meetings, I'd appreciate if you could make a point of clarifying this in > the next meeting if necessary. > > The Testbed can be accessed as usual (http://cloud.testbed.fi-ware.eu/). > Before you ask, I can informally let you know you that we are taking the > portal that we have in FI-LAB and producing a twin environment on the > testbed - not publishable yet as there are still things to change (you > can have a peek here: http://testbed.fi-ware.eu/, please do not > disseminate it) > > All takes time... :-) > > Thanks again, much appreciated! > > Miguel > > > El 31/10/2013 10:15, Philipp Slusallek escribió: >> Hi, >> >> Great to see that the FI-LAB pages have been greatly improved. >> >> One suggestion: The landing page directly shows access to the videos >> that are about the details of the platform. May I suggest that the >> landing page first provides some high-level context about what FI-LAB >> is in the first place. This context is really important for people to >> make sense of it all. They might not know anything about FI-PPP, >> FI-WARE, and so on. >> >> This would also be a good place to provide links to all the other >> available info (FI-WARE Architecture, APIs, list of UCs building on >> top of FI-LAB, list of UC SEs deployed on FI-LABs). >> >> >> Best, >> >> Philipp >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fiware-lab-help mailing list >> Fiware-lab-help at lists.fi-ware.eu >> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-lab-help > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > _/ _/_/ Miguel Carrillo Pacheco > _/ _/ _/ _/ Telefónica Distrito Telefónica > _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ Investigación y Edifico Oeste 1, Planta 9 > _/ _/ _/ _/ Desarrollo Ronda de la Comunicación S/N > _/ _/_/ 28050 Madrid (Spain) > Tel: (+34) 91 483 26 77 > > e-mail:mcp at tid.es > > Follow FI-WARE on the net > > Website:http://www.fi-ware.eu > Facebook:http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 > Twitter:http://twitter.com/Fiware > LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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