Hi Juanjo On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Juanjo Hierro < juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> wrote: > Federico, > > The issue is not so much the fact that assigning Community User accounts > to Spain-2 we will alleviate the problem (although this is also relevant) > but the fact that I can anticipate many of the nodes will not comply with > the requirements that the EC have asked us to incorporate in the Open Call > for nodes to be added to the FIWARE Lab. > then, we should first discuss this with the nodes (some of the will run anyhow because of accelerators or because they are in FI-CORE already) and then take a decision. > > This means that if we accept a Community User account to be hosted, say > it in Berlin now, it may be well the case that in September we are going to > ask that user to move all his environment to another node ... > > This could be acceptable if we will arrive in September with very easy > and proved procedures to move all the setting of a given user from one node > to another. Otherwise, you will be many users blaming on you in September > if you ask them to migrate manually (overall is migration is hard). Can > you grant this ? > We can work on this surely, also I don't expect nodes to stop abrutely, so the transition - if planned in advance - can be smooth. > > I would suggest that we start the confcall at 15:30 involving those of > us who need to agree on this discussion. Therefore leave the confcall > starting at 16:30 for the revision of recovery tasks ... this would help to > overcome the issue you mention regarding your required presence in the info > day in Trento. > > Thanks appreaciate! Federico > Best regards, > > -- Juanjo > > > On 12/05/15 09:26, Federico Michele Facca wrote: > > hi, > sorry to answer so late, but the email was in my spam inbox. > > i think we should evaluate which nodes have the problem resolved and > consider them as well besides Spain-2. while for sure, we should not - > unless users really insist - assign them to a node while it has not yet > recovered (in which case they need to be patient - which is anyhow now the > case, also in Spain-2). but this should be only a temporary thing till > issues get resolved, not a permnanent one. > > i would take into consideration that what happened on thursday is not > surely responsability of the nodes. so excluding them at this stage would > sound like it's their fault, which I cannot support: it's not fair. some of > them may be crap, as we identified and, should get excluded without any > rethinking, others are not, and many of the issues they experienced are > beyond their responsability. > > said so, today at 17, me and silvio have an info day here in trento (i > am one of ther first speakers, so our presence in the afternoon call cannot > last very long). > > cheers, > federico > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Juanjo Hierro < > juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> wrote: > >> >> Obviously, we will have to handle requests one by one and only accept >> those who ask for a number of resources that sound reasonable. >> >> I understand that, given said this, Fernando you agreed on the proposal >> (it was a little bit unclear with your wording, I have to say) >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- Juanjo >> >> On 12/05/15 09:02, FERNANDO LOPEZ AGUILAR wrote: >> >> Juanjo, >> >> Agree with consider the revision of the assigning Community and Trial >> Users accounts, this should means what is the decision that we have to take >> related to the amount of resources that everyone ask from Spain2. I mean, >> it is important to know what is the policy that we want to follow in order >> to assign resources to the Community Users if everyone will be moved to >> Spain2. We will make this decision conditional on the efforts and place in >> which we have to apply them if we want to give support to all the new users >> that probably will come to Spain2. >> >> De: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at telefonica.com> >> Fecha: Tuesday 12 May 2015 06:37 >> Para: "fiware-lab-recovery-tf at lists.fiware.org" < >> fiware-lab-recovery-tf at lists.fiware.org> >> Asunto: [Fiware-lab-recovery-tf] URGENT remediation action >> >> *IMHO, we should seriously consider to revise the "algorithm" for >> assigning Community and Trial User accounts* so that Community User >> accounts linked to FIWARE accelerator projects get assigned to the Spain-2 >> node (unless serious requirements about hosting data in a given country) >> and Trial User accounts or Community User accounts not linked to the FIWARE >> accelerator projects are assigned to the rest of nodes (maybe some space to >> be allocated in Spain if space remains). Trial Users are renewed every >> two weeks, so the fact that in September may be other different nodes will >> not be an issue with respect to them. Once the new nodes are federated, >> they may host some Community Users. *I would like to seriously discuss >> this matter in our daily confcall today. 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