[Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda

Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila jarkko at cyberlightning.com
Fri Mar 14 13:46:57 CET 2014


For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe someone
else manages do this?
On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" <jarkko at cyberlightning.com>
wrote:

> Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one for
> starters and begin the discussion.
>
> Jarkko
> On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" <mach at zhaw.ch> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jarkko
>>
>> I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the concerns.
>> Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, which was handled bad
>> from my side and delayed way to much, by various reasons.
>> The availability, up to date status and quality of the documents (Guides,
>> OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed.
>>
>> I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and maybe find
>> solutions to handle this better.
>> Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting from 14:00 CET
>> I would be available for a hangout.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Christof
>>
>> Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila <
>> jarkko at cyberlightning.com>:
>>
>>    Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit.
>> Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier.
>>
>>  The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and
>> reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the
>> meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we
>> are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair
>> that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up
>> to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate
>> so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been
>> myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the
>> past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not
>> visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be
>> the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else
>> matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago:
>>
>> "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries
>> of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for
>> review in the last month 30 review.   Thus, the project officer could not
>> send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to
>> give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in
>> risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final
>> review and such rejection may include some definite rejections."
>>
>>  Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said
>> that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable
>> result of poor reporting.
>>
>>  Now, given that we *have made* the deliverables and actually I was
>> yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS
>> and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above
>> summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately
>> with no excuses.
>>
>>  Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the
>> inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them.
>>
>>  *I seriously suggest* that we are going to have a google hangout
>> tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that.
>>
>>  Thank you,
>>
>> - jarkko
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek <
>> Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with
>>> the quite interested visitors.
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>>         Philipp
>>>
>>> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach):
>>>
>>>  Hi
>>>>
>>>> Only three people at the meeting.
>>>> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting
>>>> to late.
>>>>
>>>> I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to
>>>> the respecting GE owner)
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Christof
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>>>> School of Engineering
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>>>> Skype: christof-marti
>>>> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) <mach at zhaw.ch>:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi everbody
>>>>>
>>>>> Link to agenda/minutes:
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_
>>>>> gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit#
>>>>>
>>>>> Hangout is already open:
>>>>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> Christof
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