Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one for starters and begin the discussion. Jarkko On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" <mach at zhaw.ch> wrote: > Hi Jarkko > > I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the concerns. > Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, which was handled bad > from my side and delayed way to much, by various reasons. > The availability, up to date status and quality of the documents (Guides, > OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed. > > I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and maybe find > solutions to handle this better. > Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting from 14:00 CET > I would be available for a hangout. > > Best regards > Christof > > Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila < > jarkko at cyberlightning.com>: > > Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit. > Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. > > The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and > reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the > meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we > are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair > that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up > to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate > so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been > myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the > past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not > visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be > the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else > matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago: > > "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries > of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for > review in the last month 30 review. Thus, the project officer could not > send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to > give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in > risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final > review and such rejection may include some definite rejections." > > Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said > that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable > result of poor reporting. > > Now, given that we *have made* the deliverables and actually I was > yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS > and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above > summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately > with no excuses. > > Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the > inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. > > *I seriously suggest* that we are going to have a google hangout > tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. > > Thank you, > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek < > Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with >> the quite interested visitors. >> >> best, >> >> Philipp >> >> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >> >> Hi >>> >>> Only three people at the meeting. >>> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting >>> to late. >>> >>> I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to >>> the respecting GE owner) >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> ---- >>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>> School of Engineering >>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 >>> Skype: christof-marti >>> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) <mach at zhaw.ch>: >>> >>> Hi everbody >>>> >>>> Link to agenda/minutes: >>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_ >>>> gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >>>> >>>> Hangout is already open: >>>> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Christof >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche Intelligenz (DFKI) GmbH >> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >> >> Geschäftsführung: >> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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