[Fiware-miwi] WP13 weekly meeting minutes & agenda

[Christof Marti]

Hi Jarkko

I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the concerns. Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, which was handled bad from my side and delayed way to much, by various reasons. 
The availability, up to date status and quality of the documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed.

I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and maybe find solutions to handle this better.
Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout.

Best regards
Christof
 
Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila <jarkko at cyberlightning.com>:

> Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier.
> 
> The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the deliverables and reviews of our project. However, I fail to see enough information in the meeting minutes about this, so I take this was not discussed. I think we are in quite alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair that we have made functional software releases, open specifications are up to date with no known issues to be fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far as we can influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been myself asking several times about the progress of the deliverables for the past months, I still see that how other parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I feel we have quite much failed here, and this should be the number one topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few days ago:
> 
> "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't submit any deliverable for review in the last month 30 review.   Thus, the project officer could not send any message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed to give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we would be incurring in risks since it may happen that their deliverables get rejected in the final review and such rejection may include some definite rejections."
> 
> Also after this there was the interim payment list, which clearly said that there will be no payments for the WP13 SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor reporting.
> 
> Now, given that we have made the deliverables and actually I was yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data collection, I find it very alarming how the above summarizes us in the view of others. This needs to be fixed immediately with no excuses.
> 
> Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them.
> 
> I seriously suggest that we are going to have a google hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> - jarkko
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek <Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, and chatting with the quite interested visitors.
> 
> best,
> 
>         Philipp
> 
> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach):
> 
> Hi
> 
> Only three people at the meeting.
> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did announce the meeting to late.
> 
> I will send out emails for the open points (to the list or directly to the respecting GE owner)
> 
> Best regards
> Christof
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> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) <mach at zhaw.ch>:
> 
> Hi everbody
> 
> Link to agenda/minutes:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit#
> 
> Hangout is already open:
> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de
> 
> Best regards
> Christof
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