Hi, Sorry, I was traveling Friday afternoon. I very much see the issues Jarkko has raised. Can someone summarize the discussions? Best, Philipp Am 14.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > I created a hangout: > https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpifnavv7i8f1gj72o0uo0s8?hl=de > > Christof > > Am 14.03.2014 um 13:46 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > <jarkko at cyberlightning.com <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com>>: > >> For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe >> someone else manages do this? >> >> On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" >> <jarkko at cyberlightning.com <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com>> wrote: >> >> Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule that one >> for starters and begin the discussion. >> >> Jarkko >> >> On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" <mach at zhaw.ch >> <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch>> wrote: >> >> Hi Jarkko >> >> I can very well follow your arguments and share some of the >> concerns. Especially with the first release of the OpenSpec, >> which was handled bad from my side and delayed way to much, by >> various reasons. >> The availability, up to date status and quality of the >> documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is still very mixed. >> >> I am very willing to discuss the issues and make sure and >> maybe find solutions to handle this better. >> Morning is packed already with with meetings, but starting >> from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout. >> >> Best regards >> Christof >> Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila >> <jarkko at cyberlightning.com <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com>>: >> >>> Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and most of us in >>> Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the situation earlier. >>> >>> The most important topic for the meeting agenda was the >>> deliverables and reviews of our project. However, I fail to >>> see enough information in the meeting minutes about this, so >>> I take this was not discussed. I think we are in quite >>> alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a little unfair >>> that we have made functional software releases, open >>> specifications are up to date with no known issues to be >>> fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far as we can >>> influence it. Given all this, and given that I have been >>> myself asking several times about the progress of the >>> deliverables for the past months, I still see that how other >>> parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I feel we have >>> quite much failed here, and this should be the number one >>> topic for the project to fix. In the end, nothing else >>> matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim payments a few >>> days ago: >>> >>> "Please note that we cannot follow a similar approach with >>> beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact that they didn't >>> submit any deliverable for review in the last month 30 >>> review. Thus, the project officer could not send any >>> message confirming acceptance of deliverables. If we proceed >>> to give a second payment to these other beneficiaries we >>> would be incurring in risks since it may happen that their >>> deliverables get rejected in the final review and such >>> rejection may include some definite rejections." >>> >>> Also after this there was the interim payment list, which >>> clearly said that there will be no payments for the WP13 >>> SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor reporting. >>> >>> Now, given that we _have made_ the deliverables and actually >>> I was yesterday demonstrating a full working end-to-end >>> solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data collection, I find >>> it very alarming how the above summarizes us in the view of >>> others. This needs to be fixed immediately with no excuses. >>> >>> Christof, I want to start clarifying what exactly is causing >>> the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue to fix them. >>> >>> _I seriously suggest_ that we are going to have a google >>> hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time for that. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> - jarkko >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek >>> <Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de >>> <mailto:Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving demos, talks, >>> and chatting with the quite interested visitors. >>> >>> best, >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Only three people at the meeting. >>> I guess most folks are at CeBIT today and/or I did >>> announce the meeting to late. >>> >>> I will send out emails for the open points (to the >>> list or directly to the respecting GE owner) >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> ---- >>> InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab >>> Institut of Applied Information Technology - InIT >>> Zurich University of Applied Sciences - ZHAW >>> School of Engineering >>> Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 <tel:%2B41%2058%20934%2070%2063> >>> Skype: christof-marti >>> Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti Christof (mach) >>> <mach at zhaw.ch <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch>>: >>> >>> Hi everbody >>> >>> Link to agenda/minutes: >>> https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1v3Nbpl___mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ___gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# >>> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit#> >>> >>> Hangout is already open: >>> https://plus.google.com/__hangouts/_/__7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=__de >>> <https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de> >>> >>> Best regards >>> Christof >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu> >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi> >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Fiware-miwi mailing list >>> Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu >>> <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu> >>> https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi >>> <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> ------------------------------__------------------------------__------------- >>> Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche Intelligenz >>> (DFKI) GmbH >>> Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 Kaiserslautern >>> >>> Geschäftsführung: >>> Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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