Thanks a lot! Philipp Am 16.03.2014 17:32, schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila: > Philipp, all, > > The summary of Friday's discussion was pretty much summarized with > Christof's email Friday afternoon. It tells where to do the short term > updates in order for us to push the documentation release outwards. One > version of that was released to Miquel already, but as have issue with > the tracker status and open spec update status in general. So, to pull > together the short term topic (i.e. need to be completed by tomorrow) > > 1) Create materializing page for all GE's. This is mainly collecting > about links all around to the one page. > 2) Make sure any remaining changes are done to open specs by tomorrow. > We have received two rounds of review comments so far from outside, > those need to be incorporated accordingly. > 3) Make minor (link) updates to road map wiki page > 4) Correct all remaining tracker issues, once the materializing page is > crystal clear > > Now, all the links to the above tasks are in Christof's email and/or our > wp13 dashboard. > > To me it sound that the delivery must be made as a whole, hence if > someone refuses to update the docs and wiki, we cannot make it. I urge > all parties to make the required changes. > > Now that we settle this by Monday, I at least expect a larger review > from Telefonica, hence I expect bigger comments that we've seen so far. > Also, once the release proceeds the guys/gals at test bed and they start > testing our deliverables, no doubt we will encounter issues there. These > anticipated bigger changes need to be in place by the end of April. > > To squeeze still a little bit: 1) all those (minor) things by the end of > monday, and 2) larger things by the end of April. Maybe this summarizes > it properly? > > - jarkko > > > On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Philipp Slusallek > <Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de <mailto:Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de>> wrote: > > Hi, > > Sorry, I was traveling Friday afternoon. I very much see the issues > Jarkko has raised. Can someone summarize the discussions? > > Best, > > Philipp > > Am 14.03.2014 14:00, schrieb Marti Christof (mach): > > I created a hangout: > https://plus.google.com/__hangouts/_/__72cpifnavv7i8f1gj72o0uo0s8?hl=__de > <https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/72cpifnavv7i8f1gj72o0uo0s8?hl=de> > > Christof > > Am 14.03.2014 um 13:46 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > <jarkko at cyberlightning.com <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com> > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.__com > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com>>>: > > For some reason the creation of hangout link fails for me. Maybe > someone else manages do this? > > On Mar 14, 2014 9:37 AM, "Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila" > <jarkko at cyberlightning.com > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com> > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.__com > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com>>> wrote: > > Hello. The timing of 14cet works for me. Lets schedule > that one > for starters and begin the discussion. > > Jarkko > > On Mar 14, 2014 9:04 AM, "Christof Marti" <mach at zhaw.ch > <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch> > <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch>>> wrote: > > Hi Jarkko > > I can very well follow your arguments and share > some of the > concerns. Especially with the first release of the > OpenSpec, > which was handled bad from my side and delayed way > to much, by > various reasons. > The availability, up to date status and quality of the > documents (Guides, OpenSpec and APIs) was and is > still very mixed. > > I am very willing to discuss the issues and make > sure and > maybe find solutions to handle this better. > Morning is packed already with with meetings, but > starting > from 14:00 CET I would be available for a hangout. > > Best regards > Christof > Am 13.03.2014 um 17:10 schrieb Jarkko Vatjus-Anttila > <jarkko at cyberlightning.com > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com> > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.__com > <mailto:jarkko at cyberlightning.com>>>: > > Indeed we are pretty much all travelling, and > most of us in > Cebit. Sorry for not reminding about the > situation earlier. > > The most important topic for the meeting agenda > was the > deliverables and reviews of our project. > However, I fail to > see enough information in the meeting minutes > about this, so > I take this was not discussed. I think we are > in quite > alarming state at the moment. To me it seems a > little unfair > that we have made functional software releases, > open > specifications are up to date with no known > issues to be > fixed and the tracker is also uptodate so far > as we can > influence it. Given all this, and given that I > have been > myself asking several times about the progress > of the > deliverables for the past months, I still see > that how other > parties are seeing us is not visible enough. I > feel we have > quite much failed here, and this should be the > number one > topic for the project to fix. In the end, > nothing else > matters. Let me quote Juanjo about the interim > payments a few > days ago: > > "Please note that we cannot follow a similar > approach with > beneficiaries of Open Call 2 due to the fact > that they didn't > submit any deliverable for review in the last > month 30 > review. Thus, the project officer could not > send any > message confirming acceptance of deliverables. > If we proceed > to give a second payment to these other > beneficiaries we > would be incurring in risks since it may happen > that their > deliverables get rejected in the final review > and such > rejection may include some definite rejections." > > Also after this there was the interim payment > list, which > clearly said that there will be no payments for > the WP13 > SMEs. This is unacceptable result of poor > reporting. > > Now, given that we _have made_ the deliverables > and actually > > I was yesterday demonstrating a full working > end-to-end > solution with 3D-UI, GIS and sensor data > collection, I find > it very alarming how the above summarizes us in > the view of > others. This needs to be fixed immediately with > no excuses. > > Christof, I want to start clarifying what > exactly is causing > the inconsistencies here and how do we pursue > to fix them. > > _I seriously suggest_ that we are going to have > a google > > hangout tomorrow. Feel free to suggest a time > for that. > > Thank you, > > - jarkko > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Philipp Slusallek > <Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de > <mailto:Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de> > <mailto:Philipp.Slusallek at __dfki.de > <mailto:Philipp.Slusallek at dfki.de>>> wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, lots of people here at CeBIT giving > demos, talks, > and chatting with the quite interested > visitors. > > best, > > Philipp > > Am 12.03.2014 09:01, schrieb Marti Christof > (mach): > > Hi > > Only three people at the meeting. > I guess most folks are at CeBIT today > and/or I did > announce the meeting to late. > > I will send out emails for the open > points (to the > list or directly to the respecting GE > owner) > > Best regards > Christof > ---- > InIT Cloud Computing Lab - ICCLab > Institut of Applied Information > Technology - InIT > Zurich University of Applied Sciences - > ZHAW > School of Engineering > Phone: +41 58 934 70 63 > <tel:%2B41%2058%20934%2070%2063> > <tel:%2B41%2058%20934%2070%__2063> > > Skype: christof-marti > Am 12.03.2014 um 08:34 schrieb Marti > Christof (mach) > <mach at zhaw.ch <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch> > <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch <mailto:mach at zhaw.ch>>>: > > > Hi everbody > > Link to agenda/minutes: > https://docs.google.com/____document/d/1v3Nbpl_____mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_____gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# > <https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1v3Nbpl___mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ___gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit#> > > > <https://docs.google.com/__document/d/1v3Nbpl___mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ___gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit# > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v3Nbpl_mXUdU3WmFsS6JLJJ_gw9eY6RFqMDurJBpByE/edit#>> > > Hangout is already open: > https://plus.google.com/____hangouts/_/____7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=____de > <https://plus.google.com/__hangouts/_/__7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=__de> > > > <https://plus.google.com/__hangouts/_/__7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=__de > <https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi652iottmel10sejg0e37c?hl=de>> > > Best regards > Christof > > ___________________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu> > > <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-__ware.eu > <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu>> > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/____listinfo/fiware-miwi > <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi> > > <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi > <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi>> > > > > ___________________________________________________ > Fiware-miwi mailing list > Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu > <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu> > <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-__ware.eu > <mailto:Fiware-miwi at lists.fi-ware.eu>> > https://lists.fi-ware.eu/____listinfo/fiware-miwi > <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi> > > <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/__listinfo/fiware-miwi > <https://lists.fi-ware.eu/listinfo/fiware-miwi>> > > > > -- > > > ------------------------------____----------------------------__--__------------- > > Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche > Intelligenz > (DFKI) GmbH > Trippstadter Strasse 122, D-67663 > Kaiserslautern > > Geschäftsführung: > Prof. Dr. Dr. h.c. mult. 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