Thank you all for your help! We have just submitted the proposal. The staff of FLOSSystems remains at your disposal for whatever further inquiries the Fi-Core consortium may have regarding our proposal. Best regards, --m On 09/11/15 17:52, Miguel Vidal wrote: > On 09/11/15 13:54, Federico Michele Facca wrote: >> Dear Miguel, >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Miguel Vidal <mvidal at flossystems.com >> <mailto:mvidal at flossystems.com>> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks, Fernando. >> >> In FLOSSystems, our normal practices are renting hardware and datacenter >> services (mainly colocation and network). >> >> According to Financial Guidelines, page 67: >> >> “Operational leasing (renting): in this case, there is no possibility to >> buy the equipment. >> >> There is no depreciation involved (as the item is still the property of >> the leasing firm) but the costs are eligible if this follows the >> beneficiary's normal practices and does not exceed the costs of purchase >> of the equipment.” >> >> >> How can we justify that renting does not exceed the costs of purchase of >> the equipment? We don’t know purchase of the equipment costs because >> they are hidden for us. >> >> >> why not? if rent a dell xxx model, you should be able to know also the >> purchase cost. >> i.e., you should be able to ask the company making you the offer (or >> alternative providers) to provide >> cost of purchase as comparison as well. >> > > Because in our case the renting service is a "package" (including > networking equipment, electrical supply, rack space, and hardware > itself) and the cost of each item is unknown and we don’t know if our > provider will disclose to us. Must we break down cost of each item or it > may be considered part of the equipment purchase? > > According to Financial Guide (page 31), it's not clear: > > “Sometimes the purchase of equipment or consumables is associated with > the provision of a service. Depending on the nature of the services > provided, they may be considered subcontracts or part of the equipment > purchase. If the service is part of the "package" of equipment purchase > then it will be considered to be part of the equipment purchase." > > We’re concerned about not be able to justify renting costs exceeding the > costs of purchase equipment due to our renting costs include more items > than hardware itself, like networking equipment, electrical supply, and > rack space (colocation). > > Thanks! > > --m > -- /*****************************************/ /* Miguel Vidal - Twitter: @mvidallopez */ /* FLOSSystems - http://flossystems.com */ /* Open Source Systems Engineering */ /*****************************************/
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