[Fiware-pcc] Minutes and very final URGENT checks prior sending email to the EC (specially for SAP, THALES and IBM)

Yaron Wolfsthal WOLFSTAL at il.ibm.com
Wed Feb 27 16:14:15 CET 2013


IBM is OK with this formulation proposed by SAP (and the later suggestion 
to replace "Consortium Agreement" by "Internal Project Procedures".



From:   "Neidecker-Lutz, Burkhard" <burkhard.neidecker-lutz at sap.com>
To:     Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es>, "fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu" 
<fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu>, 
Date:   27/02/2013 02:42 PM
Subject:        Re: [Fiware-pcc] Minutes and very final URGENT checks 
prior sending email to the EC (specially for SAP, THALES and IBM)
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Hello everybody, here is the proposed text from SAP legal regarding the 
steering board mandates:
 
?Project Coordinators should discuss the proposals for the SB decisions in 
their project according to the processes laid down in the Collaboration 
Agreement and the individual projects Consortium Agreement with all 
project partners and get the necessary mandate together with the second 
representative of the sending FII project consortium to discuss, negotiate 
and decide about the content of the respective recommendation of the SB.?
 
 
As to the EIB:
  SAP also needs to double-check whether we can live with that part. 
Concerns largely are around the process for selecting members (both 
inclusion and exclusion criteria in the current text) and how to balance 
what the EIB is supposed to do between irrelevancy on one side and 
anti-trust regulations at the other end of the spectrum.
 
 
Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz
 
Burkhard Neidecker-Lutz
Fellow | Next Business and Technology AR. Mgmt AG
SAP AG | Vincenz-Priessnitz-Strasse 1 | 76131 Karlsruhe | Germany
T +49 6227 7-52533 | M +49 160-8896858 | E burkhard.neidecker-lutz at sap.com
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From: fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [
mailto:fiware-pcc-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Juanjo Hierro
Sent: Mittwoch, 27. Februar 2013 12:38
To: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: [Fiware-pcc] Minutes and very final URGENT checks prior sending 
email to the EC (specially for SAP, THALES and IBM)
 
Hi all,

  Please take a look at the minutes which I have finalized in the shared 
Google doc.

  Telefonica will prepare an email to be sent to the EC where we will 
explain that there is general consensus among the partners about the 
incorporation of comments 1-6 discussed in the call (as per agreement 
captured in these minutes) but there is still disagreement on the 
following points:
Mandate of Project Coordinators at the SB: we will explain which was the 
paragraph where the conflict is located and we will explain we are working 
in alternative text 
Prevalence of the DoW over the Collaboration Agreement and Consortium 
Agreement:   Here, SAP and IBM object using the DoW as mechanism for 
fast-tracking changes in the governance model.  We will ask the EC about 
clarification on their position about prevalence of the DoW, Consortium 
Agreement and Collaboration Agreement. 
Inclusion of the EIB.   Here, Thales and SAP seem to disagree with their 
inclusion.   IBM will double-check whether they can live with that part. 

  I would kindly ask Thales, SAP and IBM to explicitly confirm, in 
response to this mail whether it is right that they object to the 
inclusion of the EIB and/or the wording associated to that inclusion. This 
part was discussed while SAP was not at the meeting so I want to make a 
final double-check.   IBM took the AP to come to us with a response.
  Cheers,
-- Juanjo
 
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