[Fiware-pois] Discussion on new POI format

[Benjamin Molina]

Hi Timo,

sorry for not attending the audio, but I had another important meeting 
this morning.
Regarding the answer you provide, it does not make sense to me:

My SE (Fusion Engine, FE) has POIs and is able to integrate within 
FIWARE exporting data to POI DP GE.
The FE is also able to provide a basic POI API interface as specified by 
FIWARE (discussed within FiContent2 WP3), but only for inquiry purposes. 
By exporting it to POI DP GE, one may add or manipulate POIs.

There is no link between the FE and the Orion CB.
If the 'fw_generic' component is just designed to be used for the Orion 
CB, then this is not what I'm looking for. Anyway, in the link you 
provide (
https://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Publish/Subscribe_Broker_-_Orion_Context_Broker_-_Quick_Start_for_Programmers) 
I cannot find any information regarding this 'fw_generic' component.

I'm interested in providing additional information regarding a 
particular POI. In our case (FiContent2) we used Fallas (as POIs) for a 
large experiment in Valencia. Each Falla had a president, an artist, a 
Major Fallera, etc. These are specific pieces of information particular 
for these POIs and useful for users, which should be mapped to an 
existing 'fw_*'component. Reading the POI API spec and looking in the 
FIWARE wiki about the POI DP GE I didn't find any useful component. 
There might be an option of creating new components, but:
- I think this is not the best approach because this would launch the 
generation of many other potential fw_components for other POIS. And it 
is better to have less components for several reasons. Moreover if this 
issue can be easily solved with a general container with key-value items
- I didn't find a tutorial on the FIWARE wiki about how to add a new 
component to POI DP GE. I also suspect this might not be easy.

So when I read about the 'fw_generic' it waked up my interest as I think 
this is probably the easiest approach not only for my case but for many 
other POIs (enablers)

In fact I wrote several weeks ago an e-mail about this issue to Ari but 
I didn't get any feedback.


Kind regards,
Benjamin




El 18/05/15 a las 10:55, Timo Mukari escribió:
>
> Just for the others as well, instructions for how to get keys for 
> Orion CB can be found here:
>
> https://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Publish/Subscribe_Broker_-_Orion_Context_Broker_-_Quick_Start_for_Programmers
>
> Timo
>
> *From:*fiware-pois-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org 
> [mailto:fiware-pois-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] *On Behalf Of *Stefan Lemme
> *Sent:* 18. toukokuuta 2015 11:45
> *To:* Benjamin Molina
> *Cc:* fiware-pois at lists.fi-ware.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Fiware-pois] Discussion on new POI format
>
>
> Hi Benjamin,
>
> I just removed the architects mailinglist to bother only 
> poi-interested people.
> I guess your questions can be addressed by Ari or Timo since they are 
> the maintainer of the POI-DP GE.
>
> Please feel free to join this special call on the POI topic, I'm 
> confident you are able to provide valuable input.
>
> Best,
> Stefan
>
>
> On 5/18/2015 10:35 AM, Benjamin Molina wrote:
>
>     Hi all,
>
>     we are a FiContent2 partner interested in the POI discussion.
>     It seems that the audioconference is dedicated to POI DP GE and
>     Orion CB integration.
>     After reading briefly the docs, I see in
>     http://dev.cie.fi/FI-WARE/poi_dp_dyn/poi_dp_dyn_spec.docx
>     that there is a "fw_generic" component that allows to introduce
>     key value pairs.
>
>     However, I don't find any information (wiki) about how to use it
>     or if it is supported in POI DP GE.
>     I'm able to export data from my enabler to POI DP GE, but I can
>     basically fill fw_core.
>     How should I proceed for the 'fw_generic' component if I have
>     additional information?
>
>
>     Regards,
>     Benjamin
>
>
>     El 13/05/15 a las 08:57, Juanjo Hierro escribió:
>
>         Dear all,
>
>           As you know, I consider this is a rather hot and crucial
>         topic, highly relevant when trying to promote FIWARE as a
>         holistic platform where pieces from all the chapters can be
>         all nicely integrated.
>
>           I wanted to devote an architects session on this matter as
>         already shared with many of you.
>
>           This would take place this coming Monday May 18th from 11 to
>         12:30.
>
>           Please be prepared for the discussion.
>
>           Thanks in advance,
>
>         -- Juanjo
>
>         On 04/05/15 08:50, Torsten Spieldenner wrote:
>
>             Good morning,
>
>             the goal of this POI group is to find an advanced concept
>             of Points of Interest, that supports integration with
>             other GE, as for example Context Broker, and also support
>             Dynamic POIs.
>
>             As a starting point for the discussion, we would like to
>             present the proposals for the new POI concepts which were
>             created within the WebUI chapter by CIE and DFKI.
>
>             for this, please find attached the proposals by CIE:
>
>             http://dev.cie.fi/FI-WARE/poi_dp_dyn/poi_dp_dyn_spec.docx
>
>             and DFKI respectively:
>
>             https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BKAiUNPo_3kScyQxOpETet6G2i4H0wuUYl49zJC6xvQ/edit#heading=h.n739jm7ey76a
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