[Fiware-pois] Discussion on new POI format

[Toni Alatalo]

By default the POI DP GE does not have any relation to the Orion CB currently.

So AFAIK 'fw_generic' or any other data component you can just in the
default current release version. It just gives you json where you can
have one of the pre-defined or whatever else json data you wish.

For the basic data such as place coordinate & name, there's the
'fw_core' component:

"pois": {
     "6be4752b-fe6f-4c3a-98c1-13e5ccf01721": {
       "fw_core": {
         "category": "cafe",
         "location": {<location of Aula cafe>},
         "name": {
           "": "Aula cafe"
         },

.. copy-paste from
http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/POI_Data_Provider_-_User_and_Programmers_Guide#Interface_reference

There are emails on this list now about Context Broker & POI things as
it is an on-going discussion with some early experiments implemented
at this phase -- is not typically / necessarily related to how you'd
just the POI GE now with the current release.

Hoping this clarified something as a little first-aid,
~Toni

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Benjamin Molina <benmomo at upvnet.upv.es> wrote:
> Hi Timo,
>
> sorry for not attending the audio, but I had another important meeting this
> morning.
> Regarding the answer you provide, it does not make sense to me:
>
> My SE (Fusion Engine, FE) has POIs and is able to integrate within FIWARE
> exporting data to POI DP GE.
> The FE is also able to provide a basic POI API interface as specified by
> FIWARE (discussed within FiContent2 WP3), but only for inquiry purposes. By
> exporting it to POI DP GE, one may add or manipulate POIs.
>
> There is no link between the FE and the Orion CB.
> If the 'fw_generic' component is just designed to be used for the Orion CB,
> then this is not what I'm looking for. Anyway, in the link you provide (
> https://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Publish/Subscribe_Broker_-_Orion_Context_Broker_-_Quick_Start_for_Programmers)
> I cannot find any information regarding this 'fw_generic' component.
>
> I'm interested in providing additional information regarding a particular
> POI. In our case (FiContent2) we used Fallas (as POIs) for a large
> experiment in Valencia. Each Falla had a president, an artist, a Major
> Fallera, etc. These are specific pieces of information particular for these
> POIs and useful for users, which should be mapped to an existing
> 'fw_*'component. Reading the POI API spec and looking in the FIWARE wiki
> about the POI DP GE I didn't find any useful component. There might be an
> option of creating new components, but:
> - I think this is not the best approach because this would launch the
> generation of many other potential fw_components for other POIS. And it is
> better to have less components for several reasons. Moreover if this issue
> can be easily solved with a general container with key-value items
> - I didn't find a tutorial on the FIWARE wiki about how to add a new
> component to POI DP GE. I also suspect this might not be easy.
>
> So when I read about the 'fw_generic' it waked up my interest as I think
> this is probably the easiest approach not only for my case but for many
> other POIs (enablers)
>
> In fact I wrote several weeks ago an e-mail about this issue to Ari but I
> didn't get any feedback.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Benjamin
>
>
>
>
> El 18/05/15 a las 10:55, Timo Mukari escribió:
>
>
>
> Just for the others as well, instructions for how to get keys for Orion CB
> can be found here:
>
> https://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Publish/Subscribe_Broker_-_Orion_Context_Broker_-_Quick_Start_for_Programmers
>
>
>
> Timo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: fiware-pois-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org
> [mailto:fiware-pois-bounces at lists.fi-ware.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Lemme
> Sent: 18. toukokuuta 2015 11:45
> To: Benjamin Molina
> Cc: fiware-pois at lists.fi-ware.org
> Subject: Re: [Fiware-pois] Discussion on new POI format
>
>
>
>
> Hi Benjamin,
>
> I just removed the architects mailinglist to bother only poi-interested
> people.
> I guess your questions can be addressed by Ari or Timo since they are the
> maintainer of the POI-DP GE.
>
> Please feel free to join this special call on the POI topic, I'm confident
> you are able to provide valuable input.
>
> Best,
> Stefan
>
>
> On 5/18/2015 10:35 AM, Benjamin Molina wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> we are a FiContent2 partner interested in the POI discussion.
> It seems that the audioconference is dedicated to POI DP GE and Orion CB
> integration.
> After reading briefly the docs, I see in
> http://dev.cie.fi/FI-WARE/poi_dp_dyn/poi_dp_dyn_spec.docx
> that there is a "fw_generic" component that allows to introduce key value
> pairs.
>
> However, I don't find any information (wiki) about how to use it or if it is
> supported in POI DP GE.
> I'm able to export data from my enabler to POI DP GE, but I can basically
> fill fw_core.
> How should I proceed for the 'fw_generic' component if I have additional
> information?
>
>
> Regards,
> Benjamin
>
>
> El 13/05/15 a las 08:57, Juanjo Hierro escribió:
>
> Dear all,
>
>   As you know, I consider this is a rather hot and crucial topic, highly
> relevant when trying to promote FIWARE as a holistic platform where pieces
> from all the chapters can be all nicely integrated.
>
>   I wanted to devote an architects session on this matter as already shared
> with many of you.
>
>   This would take place this coming Monday May 18th from 11 to 12:30.
>
>   Please be prepared for the discussion.
>
>   Thanks in advance,
>
> -- Juanjo
>
> On 04/05/15 08:50, Torsten Spieldenner wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> the goal of this POI group is to find an advanced concept of Points of
> Interest, that supports integration with other GE, as for example Context
> Broker, and also support Dynamic POIs.
>
> As a starting point for the discussion, we would like to present the
> proposals for the new POI concepts which were created within the WebUI
> chapter by CIE and DFKI.
>
> for this, please find attached the proposals by CIE:
>
> http://dev.cie.fi/FI-WARE/poi_dp_dyn/poi_dp_dyn_spec.docx
>
> and DFKI respectively:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BKAiUNPo_3kScyQxOpETet6G2i4H0wuUYl49zJC6xvQ/edit#heading=h.n739jm7ey76a
>
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> Torsten
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