[Fiware-technical-committee] Fwd: Your eligibility for the Docker Open Source Program

Stefano De Panfilis stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org
Thu Aug 19 17:45:43 CEST 2021


dear federico,

i agree with you on the urgency of the matter and we shall certainly put
this item at the next tsc agenda and thus the bod. i mean there is the need
for a formal request from the tsc to decide on this matter which is somehow
"technical". whatever we consider it anycase shall the topic shall be
treated in good synch and agreement by the two bodies.
honestly i do not see any particular issue.

i was meaning your question in the ps part of your email, when you say in a
kind of "devil advocate" manner, to say the least ;-): "PS: I would also
argue that following your approach in a strict sense, you should not accept
even projects from Apache or other OS foundations, if they are supported by
commercial organizations (which is the case for 100% of them, basically)."

ciao,
stefano

On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:27, Federico Michele Facca <
federico.facca at martel-innovate.com> wrote:

> Dear Stefano,
> I am not sure what you mean by "last point", anyhow no reply so far by
> Aurelien.
>
> I am sure that FIWARE Foundation is eligible for the Open Source
> programme, and that may be a way to go (see option 1).
>
> In general, the limitations introduced may cause different problems, but
> the one I think that is i see more impacting to FIWARE is that for GEs
> hosted on single organisations (e.g. Martel, UPM, ect) docker hub
> repository the following limitations apply:
>
> - 100 pulls for not registered users
> - 200 pulls for registered users
>
> So beyond 100 daily pull from a repository (if unregistered as in most of
> the cases when just using containers), people will get an error... Think
> for example if we organize a hackathon: the treshould will be reached in
> seconds :/
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
> +41 788075838
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> MAKE IT HAPPEN
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>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:06, Stefano De Panfilis <
> stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org> wrote:
>
>> dear federico,
>>
>> did you get an answer from aurélien about your last point which is
>> definitely quite tricky?
>>
>> ciao,
>> stefano
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:21, Federico Michele Facca <
>> federico.facca at martel-innovate.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> recently terms and conditions of Docker Hub usage changed a lot, and
>>> unless willing to pay, this is going to affect all organisations with free
>>> accounts that
>>> use Docker Hub to distribute docker images of their FIWARE GEs.
>>>
>>> Options I see:
>>> - All official GEs are just hosted under FIWARE Docker Hub repo.
>>>   -> Pro: FIWARE Foundation should be able to get the OS status
>>> recognition, and so no limitation will apply.
>>>   -> Cons: maintainers will lose visibility, and users will need to be
>>> duly informed of changing the repo to use docker images.
>>>
>>> - Maintainers move to alternative solutions to Docker Hub.
>>>   -> Pro: Maintainers will retain visibility.
>>>   -> Cons: Users will need to be duly informed of changing the repo to
>>> use docker images.
>>>
>>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>>> +41 788075838
>>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
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>>> <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Federico Michele Facca <federico.facca at martel-innovate.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:14
>>> Subject: Re: Your eligibility for the Docker Open Source Program
>>> To: Aurelien Suarez <aurelien-suarez at docker.com>
>>> Cc: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at fiware.org>, Ulrich Ahle <
>>> ulrich.ahle at fiware.org>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Aurelien,
>>> The components we deliver open source are part of the FIWARE Open Source
>>> platform which is backed by a non profit organization: the FIWARE
>>> Foundation.
>>> Simply as a way of working FIWARE does not force to
>>> transfer repositories under the control of the association, they just
>>> mirror them.
>>> You can check, for example, that quantumleap is listed here:
>>> https://www.fiware.org/developers/catalogue/
>>>
>>> This is the case for the projects part of FIWARE (e.g. Context Broker,
>>> maintained by Telefonica), unless maintained and developed by the FIWARE
>>> Foundation itself.
>>> Clearly, if contributors like us, cannot benefit, that's gonna affect
>>> large part of the project of parf of FIWARE, unless the single organisation
>>> are willing to pay Docker hub subscriptions. I assume, being a lot of
>>> them SMEs, it's easier that they will give up on Docker hub.
>>>
>>> @Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at fiware.org> @Ulrich Ahle
>>> <ulrich.ahle at fiware.org> I guess this is something we can put in the
>>> Agenda of the next Board of Directors of the Foundation, to decide a common
>>> strategy
>>> to tackle the issue.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Federico
>>>
>>> PS: I would also argue that following your approach in a strict sense,
>>> you should not accept even projects from Apache or other OS foundations, if
>>> they are supported
>>> by commercial organizations (which is the case for 100% of them,
>>> basically).
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>>> +41 788075838
>>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>> Click *HERE* to download Martel reports and white papers!
>>> <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/>
>>> Follow us on *TWITTER* <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:00, Aurelien Suarez <
>>> aurelien-suarez at docker.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Federico,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you once again for submitting your application to the Docker Open
>>>> Source Program.  The Docker Open Source program is designed to help
>>>> non-commercial members of the open-source continue driving the adoption of
>>>> their software.  Among other benefits, for approved Open Source Program
>>>> contributors, we whitelist their organizations’ namespaces so that pulls
>>>> from their users are not subject to the policies for data pull rates.
>>>>
>>>> We have designed this program to help individual contributors,
>>>> nonprofits and educational institutions. Because your project is backed by
>>>> a commercial organization, we regret to inform you that your Docker
>>>> namespace is not eligible. For the ISVs ineligible for our Open Source
>>>> Program, we offer competitively priced services for low-friction
>>>> distribution of ISVs’ software.
>>>>
>>>> Please let us know if the Docker new policies for data pull rates are
>>>> impacting your business operations, and we will connect you with the
>>>> appropriate support.
>>>>
>>>> We appreciate all your support for the Docker open-source community.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Aurélien Suarez
>>>>
>>>> Community Marketing Intern
>>>>
>>>> Docker.
>>>>
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