[Fiware-technical-committee] Fwd: Your eligibility for the Docker Open Source Program

Federico Michele Facca federico.facca at martel-innovate.com
Thu Aug 19 18:10:14 CEST 2021


Dear Stefano,
indeed I also wrote to Ulrich.

About the PS, following your message, I imagined Aurelien running to
Docker's lawyers team saying "Paolo Alto, we have a problem"

In general, many of the devops platforms restricted their free version and
introduced "open source programmes" support,
but Docker one, is the most restrictive I have seen so far... for example,
CircleCI consider any public git repository with an open source license
eligible for the programme.

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On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:45, Stefano De Panfilis <
stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org> wrote:

> dear federico,
>
> i agree with you on the urgency of the matter and we shall certainly put
> this item at the next tsc agenda and thus the bod. i mean there is the need
> for a formal request from the tsc to decide on this matter which is somehow
> "technical". whatever we consider it anycase shall the topic shall be
> treated in good synch and agreement by the two bodies.
> honestly i do not see any particular issue.
>
> i was meaning your question in the ps part of your email, when you say in
> a kind of "devil advocate" manner, to say the least ;-): "PS: I would
> also argue that following your approach in a strict sense, you should not
> accept even projects from Apache or other OS foundations, if they are
> supported by commercial organizations (which is the case for 100% of
> them, basically)."
>
> ciao,
> stefano
>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:27, Federico Michele Facca <
> federico.facca at martel-innovate.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Stefano,
>> I am not sure what you mean by "last point", anyhow no reply so far by
>> Aurelien.
>>
>> I am sure that FIWARE Foundation is eligible for the Open Source
>> programme, and that may be a way to go (see option 1).
>>
>> In general, the limitations introduced may cause different problems, but
>> the one I think that is i see more impacting to FIWARE is that for GEs
>> hosted on single organisations (e.g. Martel, UPM, ect) docker hub
>> repository the following limitations apply:
>>
>> - 100 pulls for not registered users
>> - 200 pulls for registered users
>>
>> So beyond 100 daily pull from a repository (if unregistered as in most of
>> the cases when just using containers), people will get an error... Think
>> for example if we organize a hackathon: the treshould will be reached in
>> seconds :/
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>> +41 788075838
>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:06, Stefano De Panfilis <
>> stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org> wrote:
>>
>>> dear federico,
>>>
>>> did you get an answer from aurélien about your last point which is
>>> definitely quite tricky?
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>> stefano
>>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:21, Federico Michele Facca <
>>> federico.facca at martel-innovate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> recently terms and conditions of Docker Hub usage changed a lot, and
>>>> unless willing to pay, this is going to affect all organisations with free
>>>> accounts that
>>>> use Docker Hub to distribute docker images of their FIWARE GEs.
>>>>
>>>> Options I see:
>>>> - All official GEs are just hosted under FIWARE Docker Hub repo.
>>>>   -> Pro: FIWARE Foundation should be able to get the OS status
>>>> recognition, and so no limitation will apply.
>>>>   -> Cons: maintainers will lose visibility, and users will need to be
>>>> duly informed of changing the repo to use docker images.
>>>>
>>>> - Maintainers move to alternative solutions to Docker Hub.
>>>>   -> Pro: Maintainers will retain visibility.
>>>>   -> Cons: Users will need to be duly informed of changing the repo to
>>>> use docker images.
>>>>
>>>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>>>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>>>> +41 788075838
>>>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>>>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Federico Michele Facca <federico.facca at martel-innovate.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:14
>>>> Subject: Re: Your eligibility for the Docker Open Source Program
>>>> To: Aurelien Suarez <aurelien-suarez at docker.com>
>>>> Cc: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at fiware.org>, Ulrich Ahle <
>>>> ulrich.ahle at fiware.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Aurelien,
>>>> The components we deliver open source are part of the FIWARE Open
>>>> Source platform which is backed by a non profit organization: the FIWARE
>>>> Foundation.
>>>> Simply as a way of working FIWARE does not force to
>>>> transfer repositories under the control of the association, they just
>>>> mirror them.
>>>> You can check, for example, that quantumleap is listed here:
>>>> https://www.fiware.org/developers/catalogue/
>>>>
>>>> This is the case for the projects part of FIWARE (e.g. Context Broker,
>>>> maintained by Telefonica), unless maintained and developed by the FIWARE
>>>> Foundation itself.
>>>> Clearly, if contributors like us, cannot benefit, that's gonna affect
>>>> large part of the project of parf of FIWARE, unless the single organisation
>>>> are willing to pay Docker hub subscriptions. I assume, being a lot of
>>>> them SMEs, it's easier that they will give up on Docker hub.
>>>>
>>>> @Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at fiware.org> @Ulrich Ahle
>>>> <ulrich.ahle at fiware.org> I guess this is something we can put in the
>>>> Agenda of the next Board of Directors of the Foundation, to decide a common
>>>> strategy
>>>> to tackle the issue.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Federico
>>>>
>>>> PS: I would also argue that following your approach in a strict sense,
>>>> you should not accept even projects from Apache or other OS foundations, if
>>>> they are supported
>>>> by commercial organizations (which is the case for 100% of them,
>>>> basically).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>>>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>>>> +41 788075838
>>>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>>>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>>> Click *HERE* to download Martel reports and white papers!
>>>> <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/>
>>>> Follow us on *TWITTER* <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:00, Aurelien Suarez <
>>>> aurelien-suarez at docker.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Federico,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you once again for submitting your application to the Docker
>>>>> Open Source Program.  The Docker Open Source program is designed to help
>>>>> non-commercial members of the open-source continue driving the adoption of
>>>>> their software.  Among other benefits, for approved Open Source Program
>>>>> contributors, we whitelist their organizations’ namespaces so that pulls
>>>>> from their users are not subject to the policies for data pull rates.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have designed this program to help individual contributors,
>>>>> nonprofits and educational institutions. Because your project is backed by
>>>>> a commercial organization, we regret to inform you that your Docker
>>>>> namespace is not eligible. For the ISVs ineligible for our Open Source
>>>>> Program, we offer competitively priced services for low-friction
>>>>> distribution of ISVs’ software.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let us know if the Docker new policies for data pull rates are
>>>>> impacting your business operations, and we will connect you with the
>>>>> appropriate support.
>>>>>
>>>>> We appreciate all your support for the Docker open-source community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Aurélien Suarez
>>>>>
>>>>> Community Marketing Intern
>>>>>
>>>>> Docker.
>>>>>
>>>>
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