[Fiware-technical-committee] Fwd: Your eligibility for the Docker Open Source Program

Marius Snyman marius at teclab.co.za
Thu Aug 19 20:10:34 CEST 2021


Hello Federico

Is self-hosting an option for the foundation? If so, consider looking
closer at https://goharbor.io/

Here is a video explaining the features, which are quite impressive:
https://youtu.be/4zZiBcvZmgQ


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On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 18:10, Federico Michele Facca <
federico.facca at martel-innovate.com> wrote:

> Dear Stefano,
> indeed I also wrote to Ulrich.
>
> About the PS, following your message, I imagined Aurelien running to
> Docker's lawyers team saying "Paolo Alto, we have a problem"
>
> In general, many of the devops platforms restricted their free version and
> introduced "open source programmes" support,
> but Docker one, is the most restrictive I have seen so far... for example,
> CircleCI consider any public git repository with an open source license
> eligible for the programme.
>
> Cheers,
>
> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
> +41 788075838
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>
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:45, Stefano De Panfilis <
> stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org> wrote:
>
>> dear federico,
>>
>> i agree with you on the urgency of the matter and we shall certainly put
>> this item at the next tsc agenda and thus the bod. i mean there is the need
>> for a formal request from the tsc to decide on this matter which is somehow
>> "technical". whatever we consider it anycase shall the topic shall be
>> treated in good synch and agreement by the two bodies.
>> honestly i do not see any particular issue.
>>
>> i was meaning your question in the ps part of your email, when you say in
>> a kind of "devil advocate" manner, to say the least ;-): "PS: I would
>> also argue that following your approach in a strict sense, you should not
>> accept even projects from Apache or other OS foundations, if they are
>> supported by commercial organizations (which is the case for 100% of
>> them, basically)."
>>
>> ciao,
>> stefano
>>
>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:27, Federico Michele Facca <
>> federico.facca at martel-innovate.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Stefano,
>>> I am not sure what you mean by "last point", anyhow no reply so far by
>>> Aurelien.
>>>
>>> I am sure that FIWARE Foundation is eligible for the Open Source
>>> programme, and that may be a way to go (see option 1).
>>>
>>> In general, the limitations introduced may cause different problems, but
>>> the one I think that is i see more impacting to FIWARE is that for GEs
>>> hosted on single organisations (e.g. Martel, UPM, ect) docker hub
>>> repository the following limitations apply:
>>>
>>> - 100 pulls for not registered users
>>> - 200 pulls for registered users
>>>
>>> So beyond 100 daily pull from a repository (if unregistered as in most
>>> of the cases when just using containers), people will get an error... Think
>>> for example if we organize a hackathon: the treshould will be reached in
>>> seconds :/
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>>> +41 788075838
>>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>> Click *HERE* to download Martel reports and white papers!
>>> <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/>
>>> Follow us on *TWITTER* <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 17:06, Stefano De Panfilis <
>>> stefano.depanfilis at fiware.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> dear federico,
>>>>
>>>> did you get an answer from aurélien about your last point which is
>>>> definitely quite tricky?
>>>>
>>>> ciao,
>>>> stefano
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:21, Federico Michele Facca <
>>>> federico.facca at martel-innovate.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> recently terms and conditions of Docker Hub usage changed a lot, and
>>>>> unless willing to pay, this is going to affect all organisations with free
>>>>> accounts that
>>>>> use Docker Hub to distribute docker images of their FIWARE GEs.
>>>>>
>>>>> Options I see:
>>>>> - All official GEs are just hosted under FIWARE Docker Hub repo.
>>>>>   -> Pro: FIWARE Foundation should be able to get the OS status
>>>>> recognition, and so no limitation will apply.
>>>>>   -> Cons: maintainers will lose visibility, and users will need to be
>>>>> duly informed of changing the repo to use docker images.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Maintainers move to alternative solutions to Docker Hub.
>>>>>   -> Pro: Maintainers will retain visibility.
>>>>>   -> Cons: Users will need to be duly informed of changing the repo to
>>>>> use docker images.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>>>>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>>>>> +41 788075838
>>>>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>>>>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>>>> Click *HERE* to download Martel reports and white papers!
>>>>> <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/>
>>>>> Follow us on *TWITTER* <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>> From: Federico Michele Facca <federico.facca at martel-innovate.com>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:14
>>>>> Subject: Re: Your eligibility for the Docker Open Source Program
>>>>> To: Aurelien Suarez <aurelien-suarez at docker.com>
>>>>> Cc: Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at fiware.org>, Ulrich Ahle <
>>>>> ulrich.ahle at fiware.org>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Aurelien,
>>>>> The components we deliver open source are part of the FIWARE Open
>>>>> Source platform which is backed by a non profit organization: the FIWARE
>>>>> Foundation.
>>>>> Simply as a way of working FIWARE does not force to
>>>>> transfer repositories under the control of the association, they just
>>>>> mirror them.
>>>>> You can check, for example, that quantumleap is listed here:
>>>>> https://www.fiware.org/developers/catalogue/
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the case for the projects part of FIWARE (e.g. Context Broker,
>>>>> maintained by Telefonica), unless maintained and developed by the FIWARE
>>>>> Foundation itself.
>>>>> Clearly, if contributors like us, cannot benefit, that's gonna affect
>>>>> large part of the project of parf of FIWARE, unless the single organisation
>>>>> are willing to pay Docker hub subscriptions. I assume, being a lot of
>>>>> them SMEs, it's easier that they will give up on Docker hub.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Juanjo Hierro <juanjose.hierro at fiware.org> @Ulrich Ahle
>>>>> <ulrich.ahle at fiware.org> I guess this is something we can put in the
>>>>> Agenda of the next Board of Directors of the Foundation, to decide a common
>>>>> strategy
>>>>> to tackle the issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Federico
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: I would also argue that following your approach in a strict sense,
>>>>> you should not accept even projects from Apache or other OS foundations, if
>>>>> they are supported
>>>>> by commercial organizations (which is the case for 100% of them,
>>>>> basically).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Dr. FEDERICO MICHELE FACCA*
>>>>> *CTO, Head of Martel Lab*
>>>>> +41 788075838
>>>>> *MARTEL INNOVATE* <https://www.martel-innovate.com/> - INNOVATION, WE
>>>>> MAKE IT HAPPEN
>>>>> Click *HERE* to download Martel reports and white papers!
>>>>> <https://www.martel-innovate.com/premium-content/>
>>>>> Follow us on *TWITTER* <https://twitter.com/Martel_Innovate>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 19 Aug 2021 at 10:00, Aurelien Suarez <
>>>>> aurelien-suarez at docker.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello Federico,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you once again for submitting your application to the Docker
>>>>>> Open Source Program.  The Docker Open Source program is designed to help
>>>>>> non-commercial members of the open-source continue driving the adoption of
>>>>>> their software.  Among other benefits, for approved Open Source Program
>>>>>> contributors, we whitelist their organizations’ namespaces so that pulls
>>>>>> from their users are not subject to the policies for data pull rates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have designed this program to help individual contributors,
>>>>>> nonprofits and educational institutions. Because your project is backed by
>>>>>> a commercial organization, we regret to inform you that your Docker
>>>>>> namespace is not eligible. For the ISVs ineligible for our Open Source
>>>>>> Program, we offer competitively priced services for low-friction
>>>>>> distribution of ISVs’ software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let us know if the Docker new policies for data pull rates are
>>>>>> impacting your business operations, and we will connect you with the
>>>>>> appropriate support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We appreciate all your support for the Docker open-source community.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aurélien Suarez
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Community Marketing Intern
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Docker.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> Stefano De Panfilis
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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