Looking at the agenda -- I definitely think that such a workshop would be highly beneficial, to understand the bigger picture of how each of the UC projects plans to use our GEs. This might help a lot to improve collaboration between FI-WARE and UC projects. We need a common "language" -- and such a workshop can be very efficient to achieve this. I would recommend building the education sessions around such workshops. We have already booked two weeks for exactly this purpose, and I am sure we don't need more, if we plan it efficiently. For example, if we allocate 4 hours for each of the UC projects (following an agenda similar to the one proposed by IM), then we can cover all the UC projects in 4 work days (one week). Regards, Alex From: Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> To: "fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>, "fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu" <fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu>, Date: 25/04/2012 09:59 AM Subject: [Fiware-wpl] PLEASE, REMINDER: Fwd: RE: Instant Mobility & FI-Ware F2F Meeting Sent by: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu I definitively need more feedback from the rest. We need to send a response to the InstantMobility project by EOB today. One further question ... Who is going to attend the FI Week and FIA in Aalborg (maybe not just you but someone who may represent you from your chapter team) ? It is true that if many of you are going to be there, it makes sense to arrange the f2f meeting they proposed there ... Question is that I'm afraid there will not be so many ... Personally, I won't be there. I also attach the .pptx with the Agenda that the InstantMobility project proposed for that f2f meeting. Looking at it, I wonder whether participation of people from any chapter other that the IoT and Data/Context Management Chapter is really needed (this may help to find a place where we can meet f2f ...) May be just the team working on apps/services composition within the Apps chapter ... I would also say that it would be interesting that someone from Security attends, but I guess it is not absolutely a must since those attending may gather security requirements and then it would be a matter of setting up a dedicated virtual session on Security ... Definitively, I don't see presence of the rest of the Apps chapter, the Cloud Chapter of the I2ND chapter as an absolute must ... Looking forward your feedback, -- Juanjo -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: RE: Instant Mobility & FI-Ware F2F Meeting Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:04:59 +0200 From: Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu <fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>, fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu <fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> Hi all, I would like to hear other's opinion. Particularly Thierry, given the fact that he is involved in the InstantMobility project and he may add some more background. In a first approach, I feel reluctant to organize a f2f meeting prior to the planned f2f educational sessions because: This may open a "Pandora box" where we start continuously jumping from the request of one UC project to another During a FI-PPP SB meeting in January, it was already discussed that UC projects could slightly fine-tune their scheduling if that helps to achieve a better synchronization with FI-WARE. The EC should be willing to accept it (indeed, Peter Fatelnig and Andrian Zwegers were present at that meeting and didn't object to that). After all, it is not only FI-WARE who has to be the only one fighting for re-planning in order to achieve a better synchronization with UC projects. Besides, I don't understand why one virtual meeting (or even two if necessary) couldn't work if well prepared ... Last but not least, I believe that the presentation made on scenarios during the last Architecture Board should be considered just an introduction (BTW, I have to ask for a copy of the presentation). We would definitively need that the UC projects share more elaborated scenarios with us, where a detailed description about how they envision FI-WARE could be used, is provided. However, I would like to hear other's opinions. May be your chapter teams don't have problems attending the demanded f2f meeting. Cheers, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Instant Mobility & FI-Ware F2F Meeting Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:18:53 +0200 From: GATELLIER Patrick <patrick.gatellier at thalesgroup.com> To: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA <jhierro at tid.es> CC: JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO <jimenez at tid.es>, "thierry.nagellen at orange.com" <thierry.nagellen at orange.com>, MARGUERITE Julie <julie.marguerite at thalesgroup.com>, CRISTINA PEÑA ALCEGA <alcega at tid.es>, "Dirk.Beckmann at dlr.de" <Dirk.Beckmann at dlr.de>, "Maria-Concepcion.ANTON-GARCIA at ec.europa.eu" <Maria-Concepcion.ANTON-GARCIA at ec.europa.eu> Dear Juanjo, We do not want to elaborate a lot on our scenarios already shown during the last Architecture Board but to exchange in details on enablers? interfaces. This technical meeting requires more interactions that it is possible to manage with a virtual meeting, especially with the proposed agenda which target a five hours session. Of course the educational sessions are relevant to improve Instant Mobility consortium knowledge on FI-Ware architecture and enablers and this is fully complementary to the technical sessions we expect. In Instant Mobility work plan, we have to define in the following weeks what can be achieved for a relevant prototype and as you are fully aware, the first week you booked for the educational session is the same one than our review so Instant Mobility partners will attend the second session early in June. This is too late regarding our technical specifications deliverables deadline: the end of June. Based on these elements, we expect that you will take into account our proposal for a face to face technical meeting which will be highly profitable for both projects and for future trials. Overall, this is no more than a one day meeting. Best Regards Patrick GATELLIER/Julie MARGUERITE Instant Mobility Project Coordinators De : Juanjo Hierro [mailto:jhierro at tid.es] Envoyé : mercredi 18 avril 2012 20:01 À : GATELLIER Patrick Cc : JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO; thierry.nagellen at orange.com; MARGUERITE Julie; CRISTINA PEÑA ALCEGA; Dirk.Beckmann at dlr.de; Maria-Concepcion.ANTON-GARCIA at ec.europa.eu; jhierro >> "Juan J. Hierro" Objet : Re: Instant Mobility & FI-Ware F2F Meeting Dear Patrick, Sorry for the delay in my response. Unfortunately, the original email didn't reach me because apparently you used a wrong email address, so that I learned about its existence during the confcall with the rest of members of the FI-PPP AB that we had on Monday afternoon. It will be very difficult to arrange f2f meetings with each UC project apart from the ones we are currently planning, the weeks of May 21st and June 4th, as you are perfectly are aware of. However, the idea of having a meeting in advance was tackled during our last FI-PPP AB confcall and it was agreed to have them in the form of a virtual meeting per UC project. We can program it as long as it is needed so this should not be an obstacle. The dialogue around concrete scenarios that you would present to us during such a virtual meeting would help not only to solve some questions at that point in time, but to help preparing the f2f meetings we are planning. I remind you that during the f2f meetings, there will not only be sessions where FI-WARE will present chapters and answer questions/doubts, but also sessions where UC projects will present their envisioned architecture, around concrete and well-defined scenarios. Therefore, the proposed virtual meeting would help to prepare contents for the f2f meeting at both sides, helping to make it more effective. If you agree, we can setup a doodle with tentative dates at which these virtual meeting could take place. As you know, all this will work provided that the current proposal about replanning some milestones in FI-WARE gets accepted. Otherwise, we wouldn't be able to spend the necessary resources. We believe this is the right thing to do at this moment, and this will be able to answer some of the recommendations from the overall FI-PPP Program reviewers, and we would like to get your support in that respect. Best regards, -- Juanjo Hierro ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Chief Architect You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 On 18/04/12 15:53, GATELLIER Patrick wrote: Dear FI-Ware colleagues, We remind you of the last week mail below, still not answered. You were also informed of this request by Thierry Nagellen at the last AB meeting. To help you organizing this one day meeting, please find attached a tentative agenda. Could you please give us a feedback by return ? Many thanks Best Regards Patrick GATELLIER/Julie MARGUERITE Instant Mobility Project Coordinators De : GATELLIER Patrick Envoyé : vendredi 13 avril 2012 17:12 À : 'jimenez at tid.es'; ' jhierro at tid.es? Cc : 'thierry.nagellen at orange.com'; MARGUERITE Julie; CRISTINA PEÑA ALCEGA; 'Dirk.Beckmann at dlr.de'; DAUTELLE Jean-Marie; GUIMONT Arnaud Objet : Instant Mobility & FI-Ware F2F Meeting Dear FI-Ware Colleagues, During the last use case meeting, on the 26th of march, it was agreed between the UA representatives that direct F2F meetings between WP technical representatives and each UA project would be extremely beneficial for all of us. In the case of Instant Mobility, the purpose of this F2F meeting is to share with FI-Ware a common detailed understanding of the GE capabilities with respect to IM technical expectations as it was also explained during the last face to face Architecture Board in Zurich (March 29th). We are currently in the process of incorporating FI-Ware enablers in the global modeling of the Instant Mobility use cases and mobility services platform. This will of course result in the definition of a set of new and much more precise EPICS to be provided to FI-Ware. We in particular wish to have a free form dialog about these EPICS, the expected interfaces and the GE modules functional and non-functional characteristics. The FIA at Aalborg could be a good place to have such a meeting which in our view should go over most of the GE and therefore need two half days of work. We will be able to send you an architecture description of the Instant Mobility system within ten days (end of april) Can you please tell us where and when such a meeting will be possible within the next month ? Many thanks, best regards Patrick GATELLIER/Julie MARGUERITE Instant Mobility Project Coordinators Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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