[Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] proposal to change the moderation of fiware-wpl/wpa lists

[Sandfuchs, Thorsten]

Dear colleagues,
Concerning the "implementation" parts & questions:
For option 1:
This should technically possible with the ability to apply "non-member filters" on mailman level. Reference: http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman-admin/node22.html and further Documentation on https://calmail.berkeley.edu/docs/mailman/regexp.html
There is a second, process related thing which might be not "implementable". Identifying which company-regular expression applies to which FI-PPP partner. This could be supported by a wiki page, where partners enter their respective emailadresses or company-regular expressions

For option 2:
Technology wise this is mearly a "larger" list of people with full-qualified names on the non-member filters. Therefore this has as well nothing to do with "implementation":
I see only "process related" thing: once you have successfully "allowed" somebody to your forge-project you should take the mentioned emailaddress in the list of non-members filters.

SAP could support in compiling an initial list of subscribers to e.g. fiware-part of the forge (but most probably it's even easier for an admin to compile this list, as it is the aggregation of a table of the forge with all the email-addresses, which most probably is a single column in the forge DB)
Please let me know, iff needed.

Hope this helped,

                                                                /Thorsten


From: Miguel Carrillo [mailto:mcp at tid.es]
Sent: Mittwoch, 20. März 2013 10:01
To: Davide Dalle Carbonare
Cc: Sandfuchs, Thorsten; stefano de panfilis; fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu
Subject: Re: [Fiware-wpa] [Fiware-wpl] proposal to change the moderation of fiware-wpl/wpa lists

Dear all,

As I fully trust Thorsten, I take for granted that Option 1 can be implemented without developement (I should  contact our support and check once this is decided but I am optimistic)

I wonder if Option 2 available without coding effort. The support we have does not provide development. If Option 2 is chosen and we need some development, I guess that SAP can help doing this?

Best regards,

Miguel

El 20/03/2013 9:53, Davide Dalle Carbonare escribió:
Dear Thorsten and all,
    +1 for Stefano's proposal.

cheers,
Davide
On 20/03/2013 03:02, stefano de panfilis wrote:
Dear Thorsten and all,

Being the wpl/wpa more a governing body than a free forum for discussion i'd prefer option 2 for the wpl/wpa mail list, while i'd implement option 1 for all the wps mail list.

My two cents,
Stefano

2013/3/19 Sandfuchs, Thorsten <thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com<mailto:thorsten.sandfuchs at sap.com>>
Dear WPL/WPA
We would like come forward with a proposal to change the policy on how mails to the lists fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu> and fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> are currently moderated/filtered.

Please indicate if you support this approach or want to object to it and what option would be your favorite one. Please respond within the next two weeks (EOB 29.03.) to hopefully implement the changes starting with the second week of april (8th of april).

Current situation:

-          All emails of non-members get in a queue of a moderator

-          The moderator judges by the relevance for "general interest" and is denying or allowing the request (in most cases the request passes this filter and is posted to the list)

Rationale:

-          The rationale behind this is to have a tight control on who is able to post on the list and to filter spam

New approach:

Option 1: filter & automatically approve emails based on regular expressions on company level related to FI-PPP members (e.g. @tid.es<http://tid.es> @ibm.com<http://ibm.com>, ...)

Option 2: filter & automatically approve emails based on members subscribed to the forge (if members has an account-email address, take this emailaddress as valid poster to the list)

-          All non-pre-filtered (option 1 or 2) emails will still be routed to the moderator as is the current situation

-          New: the moderator should allow every "human" and obvious "non-spam" email to pass to the list

New Rational:

-          The sole purpose of the new filter mechanism is now to filter out spam emails by bots

-          Responsibility on who is posting to the list lies solely on the poster. The lists are not governed by a moderator from a content perspective.

-          We enable more timely emails to the lists by members and non-members

The new approach of both options is from a technology perspective quite easy to implement (given standard mailman functionality).

Our recommendation and preferred option: option 1 as it as well lowers the administrative overhead for the moderator and is the most "open communication" encouraging approach.

This initiative is not really related to a particular case, but the general notion of having emails delayed is to our opinion a potential risk for the project success. While the effort of filtering spam is highly appreciated, as it is lowering our burden to process more mails, we shouldn't constraint ourselves to much and allow every (human) voice to be heart on the lists and encourage and support the communication to be as open as possible.

Thanks for your support & best regards,


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