Thanks for the Synopsys Hans, Jozsef, all - the meeting notes appeared rather Spartan. The additional information below is really very useful. No I2ND / CDI work then. From: Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de [mailto:Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de] Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 6:53 PM To: jozsef.varga at nsn.com; henk.heijnen at technicolor.com; Woods, Chris; pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it; fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: RE: [Fiware-i2nd] I: [Fiware-wpl] OUTSMART / FI-WARE synchronization virtual meeting (call and webex details) Dear all, In principle they are assuming that the backbone network will provide the QoS by default since currently there is nearly no bottlenecks in the network. This will change in the next future - I guess. The big problem is, that if they request from us QoS we have to provide the network infrastructure by us they will not set-up the network. Since we are not able to do so, we should be careful ... We can only provide GEs for projects which will set-up a local network for the trials. Summary: In relation to I2ND, they have some local network managed by them but this are special networks such as ad-hoc network. This kind of networks are not in our portfolio. The "edge" networks are connected through standard access networks without special requirements with the assumption of QoS, which is currently the case because: - The amount of data is not big and gets through the network easily. - The current network are mostly overprovisioned, so no bottleneck appears and a certain "QoS" can be assumed. - They are not focusing on advanced future network topologies and requirements. This means, they have no job for us :-( Cheers, Hans Message Classification: [ ] Public [ ] Private [X] Internal Use Only [ ] For your eyes only [ ] General Business Use [ ] DTAG Internal Use Only [ ] DTAG Confidential Proprietary From: fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Varga, Jozsef (NSN - HU/Budapest) Sent: Freitag, 7. September 2012 16:27 To: ext Heijnen Henk; Woods, Chris; Garino Pierangelo; fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-i2nd] I: [Fiware-wpl] OUTSMART / FI-WARE synchronization virtual meeting (call and webex details) Hi, The QoS discussion was funny (OK, rather sad): they want QoS end-to-end, but they don't need that in the network. It seems that they want QoS from IoT. In the "OUTSMART / FIWARE Synchronization Process Results" (see link<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MKyI1BYAhiTaXSmL0ZWTWQWWEThH-vDiu8NdDNf1lCs/edit?pli=1>) the NetIC is mentioned once (Other Net Adapter), but it has no useful info. Br, Jozsef This email message and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipients and may contain proprietary and/or confidential information which may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy the original message and any copies of the message as well as any attachments to the original message. From: fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of ext Heijnen Henk Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:16 PM To: Woods, Chris; Garino Pierangelo; fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: Re: [Fiware-i2nd] I: [Fiware-wpl] OUTSMART / FI-WARE synchronization virtual meeting (call and webex details) I attended (webex) and I heard almost nothing about I2ND (they spoke a lot about the infrastructure and its availability and also about IoT) Hans, what is your understanding about this call ??? Henk HEIJNEN Manager, Cooperative Projects [Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.jpg at 01CAA051.86578C00] [Description: Description: Description: cid:image003.png at 01CD8D14.046431F0] Technology & Research Funded & Cooperative Programs 1, Avenue de Belle Fontaine - CS 17616 35576 Cesson-Sévigné cedex - FRANCE Tél: +33 2 99 27 33 08 - GSM: +33 6 72 39 26 24 From: fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Woods, Chris Sent: vendredi 7 septembre 2012 15:48 To: Garino Pierangelo; fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu> Subject: Re: [Fiware-i2nd] I: [Fiware-wpl] OUTSMART / FI-WARE synchronization virtual meeting (call and webex details) I was unable to attend the meeting. Are there any notes or outcomes from this meeting? From: fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-i2nd-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Garino Pierangelo Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:51 PM To: fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-i2nd at lists.fi-ware.eu> Subject: [Fiware-i2nd] I: [Fiware-wpl] OUTSMART / FI-WARE synchronization virtual meeting (call and webex details) Hi All, please find in the mail below the information for those of you who will attend the OUTSMART/FI-WARE virtual meeting tomorrow. BR Pier Da: fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu> [mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu]<mailto:[mailto:fiware-wpl-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu]> Per conto di CARLOS RALLI UCENDO Inviato: mercoledì 5 settembre 2012 17:36 A: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>; fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu<mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> Oggetto: [Fiware-wpl] OUTSMART / FI-WARE synchronization virtual meeting (call and webex details) Dear Colleagues, Find enclosed below the details to connect tomorrow. Please do forward to those that will be involved. Looking to the googledoc I can see the Fi-WARE testbed attendee field is empty (perhaps got deleted accidentally by someone?) and there is no proposal for a Cloud chapter attendee. Thanks, -- Inicio del mensaje reenviado: De: <fano.ramparany at orange.com<mailto:fano.ramparany at orange.com>> Fecha: 31 de agosto de 2012 12:00:22 GMT+02:00 Para: Antonio Filograna <antonio.filograna at eng.it<mailto:antonio.filograna at eng.it>> Cc: "BARRELLA, PIERO (PIERO)" <piero.barrella at alcatel-lucent.com<mailto:piero.barrella at alcatel-lucent.com>>, "Mathieu Hutschemaekers" <mathieu.hutschemaekers at ericsson.com<mailto:mathieu.hutschemaekers at ericsson.com>>, Martien Huysmans <martien.huysmans at ericsson.com<mailto:martien.huysmans at ericsson.com>>, "torsten.leidig at sap.com<mailto:torsten.leidig at sap.com>" <torsten.leidig at sap.com<mailto:torsten.leidig at sap.com>>, "jsoriano at fi.upm.es<mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es>" <jsoriano at fi.upm.es<mailto:jsoriano at fi.upm.es>>, "rfernandez at fi.upm.es<mailto:rfernandez at fi.upm.es>" <rfernandez at fi.upm.es<mailto:rfernandez at fi.upm.es>>, "davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it<mailto:davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it>" <davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it<mailto:davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it>>, "uwe.riss at sap.com<mailto:uwe.riss at sap.com>" <uwe.riss at sap.com<mailto:uwe.riss at sap.com>>, "h.abangar at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:h.abangar at surrey.ac.uk>" <h.abangar at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:h.abangar at surrey.ac.uk>>, "Thomas.Riegel at siemens.com<mailto:Thomas.Riegel at siemens.com>" <Thomas.Riegel at siemens.com<mailto:Thomas.Riegel at siemens.com>>, "NAGELLEN Thierry RD-BIZZ" <thierry.nagellen at orange.com<mailto:thierry.nagellen at orange.com>>, ARTUSIO Laurent RD-BIZZ <laurent.artusio at orange.com<mailto:laurent.artusio at orange.com>>, "guysh at il.ibm.com<mailto:guysh at il.ibm.com>" <guysh at il.ibm.com<mailto:guysh at il.ibm.com>>, "tali at il.ibm.com<mailto:tali at il.ibm.com>" <tali at il.ibm.com<mailto:tali at il.ibm.com>>, "boris.moltchanov at telecomitalia.it<mailto:boris.moltchanov at telecomitalia.it>" <boris.moltchanov at telecomitalia.it<mailto:boris.moltchanov at telecomitalia.it>>, "pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it>" <pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it<mailto:pierangelo.garino at telecomitalia.it>>, "p.amon at siemens.com<mailto:p.amon at siemens.com>" <p.amon at siemens.com<mailto:p.amon at siemens.com>>, MADHUSUDAN Giyyarpuram RD-TECH <giyyarpuram.madhusudan at orange.com<mailto:giyyarpuram.madhusudan at orange.com>>, "levent.gurgen at cea.fr<mailto:levent.gurgen at cea.fr>" <levent.gurgen at cea.fr<mailto:levent.gurgen at cea.fr>>, "s.meissner at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:s.meissner at surrey.ac.uk>" <s.meissner at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:s.meissner at surrey.ac.uk>>, "boris.pokric at gmail.com<mailto:boris.pokric at gmail.com>" <boris.pokric at gmail.com<mailto:boris.pokric at gmail.com>>, "mdohler at worldsensing.com<mailto:mdohler at worldsensing.com>" <mdohler at worldsensing.com<mailto:mdohler at worldsensing.com>>, "lydie.desperben at coronis.com<mailto:lydie.desperben at coronis.com>" <lydie.desperben at coronis.com<mailto:lydie.desperben at coronis.com>>, "alexey.baraev at create-net.org<mailto:alexey.baraev at create-net.org>" <alexey.baraev at create-net.org<mailto:alexey.baraev at create-net.org>>, "jcuesta at tlmat.unican.es<mailto:jcuesta at tlmat.unican.es>" <jcuesta at tlmat.unican.es<mailto:jcuesta at tlmat.unican.es>>, "calin.curescu at Ericsson.com<mailto:calin.curescu at Ericsson.com>" <calin.curescu at ericsson.com<mailto:calin.curescu at ericsson.com>>, "d.ghataoura at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:d.ghataoura at surrey.ac.uk>" <d.ghataoura at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:d.ghataoura at surrey.ac.uk>>, "maarten.los at atosresearch.eu<mailto:maarten.los at atosresearch.eu>" <maarten.los at atosresearch.eu<mailto:maarten.los at atosresearch.eu>>, "andriy.panchenko at uni.lu<mailto:andriy.panchenko at uni.lu>" <andriy.panchenko at uni.lu<mailto:andriy.panchenko at uni.lu>>, "jerome.francois at uni.lu<mailto:jerome.francois at uni.lu>" <jerome.francois at uni.lu<mailto:jerome.francois at uni.lu>>, "pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com<mailto:pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com>" <pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com<mailto:pascal.bisson at thalesgroup.com>>, "daniel.gidoin at thalesgroup.com<mailto:daniel.gidoin at thalesgroup.com>" <daniel.gidoin at thalesgroup.com<mailto:daniel.gidoin at thalesgroup.com>>, "mirko.presser at alexandra.dk<mailto:mirko.presser at alexandra.dk>" <mirko.presser at alexandra.dk<mailto:mirko.presser at alexandra.dk>>, "alhj at tid.es<mailto:alhj at tid.es>" <alhj at tid.es<mailto:alhj at tid.es>>, stefano de panfilis <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it<mailto:stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>>, "GALLISSOT Mathieu 234683" <Mathieu.GALLISSOT at cea.fr<mailto:Mathieu.GALLISSOT at cea.fr>>, "Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de<mailto:Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de>" <Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de<mailto:Hans.Einsiedler at telekom.de>>, Roberto Di Bernardo <roberto.dibernardo at eng.it<mailto:roberto.dibernardo at eng.it>>, GRATTARD Gilles RD-BIZZ <gilles.grattard at orange.com<mailto:gilles.grattard at orange.com>>, "k.moessner at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:k.moessner at surrey.ac.uk>" <k.moessner at surrey.ac.uk<mailto:k.moessner at surrey.ac.uk>>, "ralli at tid.es<mailto:ralli at tid.es>" <ralli at tid.es<mailto:ralli at tid.es>>, "jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es>" <jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es>>, "Goldacker, Gabriele" <gabriele.goldacker at fokus.fraunhofer.de<mailto:gabriele.goldacker at fokus.fraunhofer.de>> Asunto: final call and webex details: RE: OUTSMART / FI-WARE synchronization - finding a date for the OUTSMART software architecture review Dear all, Could you please confirmed before today 4:00PM your participation to this meeting, by adding your name (with a mention webex, in case you'll participate remotely) on this shared document: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AobKeqMq4hM-dFJFdWtIWEJ0Vk95ckFLQkk5U28zLUE#gid=8 I'll book WiFi connection for those registered at that time. Juanjo, could you please forward my message to FIWARE chapter leaders and architects for them to register or appoint a representative of their chapter has you've agreed at our last FI-PPP Architecture Board meeting. Thank you very much. Here are the WebEx identifiers for connecting remotely ------------------------------------------------------- Meeting information ------------------------------------------------------- Topic: OUTSMART -FIWARE synchronisation Date: Thursday 6 September 2012 Time: 8:30, Europe Summer Time (Paris, GMT+02:00) Meeting Number: 709 850 195 Meeting Password: Outsmart123 ------------------------------------------------------- To start or join the online meeting ------------------------------------------------------- Go to https://cea.webex.com/cea-en/j.php?ED=222415942&UID=257057&PW=NMDNkMWFiNjdi&RT=NyMyMw%3D%3D ------------------------------------------------------- Audio conference information ------------------------------------------------------- To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code. France Numéro local: +33 17091 8646 Access code:709 850 195 ------------------------------------------------------- For assistance ------------------------------------------------------- 1. Go to https://cea.webex.com/cea-en/mc 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support". To check whether you have the appropriate players installed for UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media files, go to https://cea.webex.com/cea-en/systemdiagnosis.php. http://www.webex.com Thank you to Levent for setting up this WebEx session. Best regards, Fano ________________________________ Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. Puede consultar nuestra política de envío y recepción de correo electrónico en el enlace situado más abajo. This message is intended exclusively for its addressee. 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