Dear All, Here at UPM, we agree with this last proposal (Davide’s). As far as the Catalogue goes, we will definitely have to provide support until all the deliverables (not only in this WP) are done so it makes sense to delay the deliverable until M36 and keep working on it. Best Regards -- Pedro Rodriguez On 24 Oct 2013 at 17:47:13, Davide Dalle Carbonare (davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it) wrote: Dear partner, taking into consideration Laura's mail and Daniel's comments, I invite you to evaluate this proposal and provide your comments promptly ... D9.1 -> M36 D9.2 -> M36 D9.3 -> M33 D9.4 -> M33 this allow us to have more time on D9.1 for development and support on Catalogue, eLearning platform and myForge and close D9.3 and D9.4 as originally planned. Extending the D9.2 may help us to have the time to incorporate the indications from the letter we're going to send to the commission. Here I ask Osama (as responsible for this deliverable) to express his opinion. I ASK YOUR COMMENTS BY TOMORROW NOON I remind you that the deadline for providing comments to Juanjo is tomorrow, otherwise we will send this proposal. kind regards, Davide On 24/10/2013 09:34, laura pucci wrote: Dear Davide, dear all, following the email coming by SAP, with respect to the extension (and new deadline of WP9 deliverables), for sure within WP9 the situation is a bit different, and goes also in parallel with the definition of possible new plans for each WP9 partner. In particular, I’d like to share with you my doubts in postponing the deliverables deadlines to M36. I’ll try to explain why below, so to have your precious feedbacks on that. As far as I understood from Juanjo, during the next Review (M30 Review) activities related to useless or not exploitable tools/GEs will be almost certainly stopped by the reviewers, and this should be true also for the Tools Chapter… BUT, given that the date of the review will most probably be in January, i.e. M33 of the project, there will be really few activities - in WP9 - or deliverables that the Reviewers could freeze at that moment, since all SW (P) Deliverables will be submitted at M33. Thus, the question here is, is it worthwhile to move all WP9 deliverables from M33 to M36 so to foster the possible reviewers' decision to stop them (thus cutting the remaining related effort)? If we keep the delivery date of D9.x.x series at M33, I guess it will be difficult for reviewers in January to stop an on-going work to release deliverables due in January. Of course, these considerations could fit and make sense only if: 1) Due deliverables at M33 will be released on-time 2) New plans - on which each WP9 partner is arguing and thinking in these days - do not require to postpone the deadlines of those deliverables (delaying also activities). Thus, to understand these plans now it’s crucial now, in order to understand the feasibility of a (possible) extension also for the Tools Chapter. Please kindly let us know what is your thinking about my concerns. With many thanks in advance for your attention. Kind regards Laura ----- Original Message ----- From: Scheibli, Daniel To: Davide Dalle Carbonare Cc: fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 3:12 PM Subject: Re: [Fiware-tools] Fwd: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension of theproject duration Dear Davide, actually SAP has concerns regarding the extension and they are currently being addresses with the consortium management / Juanjo. Regarding the move of M33 deliverables to M36, my question would be what the motivation is? Do we feel that we really need that extra elapsed time? One down side will be, that it will definitively increase the expectations towards the outcome. Also I see the danger that it further exposes the tools to the situation mentioned by Juanjo in the call we had with him last Thurday. Best Regards, Daniel From: fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu [mailto:fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] On Behalf Of Davide Dalle Carbonare Sent: Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2013 09:25 To: fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu Subject: [Fiware-tools] Fwd: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension of the project duration Dear Partners, please find below a main from Juanjo on the project extension. I also attach the list of deliverables with some updates I've done. We already talked about the project extension during our lasts conf calls with all the partners are in favor of that. The shift of the dates for our deliverable is from M33 to M36 that sounds acceptable from my side. If you have some objection, please let me know in time to forward them to Juanjo. kind regards, Davide -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension of the project duration Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:36:09 +0200 From: Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> To: fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu <fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>, fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu <fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> CC: fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu <fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu> Hi all, As we have discussed a couple of times, the EC has suggested an extension of the FI-WARE project duration for at least 4 additional months. This was actually a recommendation given in the last review report. This was a topic that I have encouraged you to discuss with the teams in your respective chapters. During our meetings, it was also agreed that extension of the project would mean a request to move the dates of those deliverables linked to release of software and accompanying documentation so that they change to be month 36 instead of 33. Those deliverables linked to deployment of software on the FI-PPP Testbed and FI-LAB which were planned for month 36 would also be delayed until month 40. We didn't discuss this but I guess we would agree that some of the final reports to be produced should also be delayed from month 36 until month 40. So far, the only feedback I have got is that partners would be ok for the proposed extension, provided the mentioned changes in deliverable dates are incorporated. With all these considerations in mind, I have produced the attached updated version of the Deliverable List. Changes are highlighted so that you can easily track them. Of course, your feedback is welcome. Unless I hear about any objection from your side before this Friday EOB, I will submit an official response to the EC announcing our agreement to extend the project duration another 4 months (i.e., until end of August 2014), provided the changes we propose in the deliverable dates are accepted. I will use the attached table as basis although I'm happy to incorporate some additional changes you may consider necessary. Best regards, -- Juanjo ------------- Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital website: www.tid.es email: jhierro at tid.es twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator and Chief Architect FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman You can follow FI-WARE at: website: http://www.fi-ware.eu facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/FI-WARE/251366491587242 twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932 Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario. 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