[Fiware-tools] VERY URGENT - Re: Fwd: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension of theproject duration

Davide Dalle Carbonare davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it
Fri Oct 25 10:09:38 CEST 2013


Thank you Pedro,

I have also received the agreement from Marcel (IBM) with regards this last
proposal.

BR
Davide

On 25/10/2013 10:04, Pedro Rodriguez wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Here at UPM, we agree with this last proposal (Davide’s). As far as 
> the Catalogue goes, we will definitely have to provide support until 
> all the deliverables (not only in this WP) are done so it makes sense 
> to delay the deliverable until M36 and keep working on it.
>
> Best Regards
> -- 
> Pedro Rodriguez
>
>
> On 24 Oct 2013 at 17:47:13, Davide Dalle Carbonare 
> (davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it <mailto://davide.dallecarbonare@eng.it>) 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear partner,
>>     taking into consideration Laura's mail and Daniel's comments, I 
>> invite you
>> to evaluate this proposal and provide your comments promptly ...
>>
>> D9.1 -> M36
>> D9.2 -> M36
>> D9.3 -> M33
>> D9.4 -> M33
>>
>> this allow us to have more time on D9.1 for development and support 
>> on Catalogue,
>> eLearning platform and myForge and close D9.3 and D9.4 as originally 
>> planned.
>> Extending the D9.2 may help us to have the time to incorporate the 
>> indications from
>> the letter we're going to send to the commission. Here I ask Osama 
>> (as responsible for
>> this deliverable) to express his opinion.
>>
>> _*I ASK YOUR COMMENTS BY TOMORROW NOON*_
>>
>> I remind you that the deadline for providing comments to Juanjo is 
>> tomorrow,
>> otherwise we will send this proposal.
>>
>> kind regards,
>> Davide
>>
>>
>> On 24/10/2013 09:34, laura pucci wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Davide, dear all,
>>>
>>> following the email coming by SAP, with respect to the extension 
>>> (and new deadline of WP9 deliverables), for sure within WP9 the 
>>> situation is  a bit different, and goes also in parallel with the 
>>> definition of possible new plans for each WP9 partner.
>>>
>>> In particular, I’d like to share with you my doubts in postponing 
>>> the deliverables deadlines to M36. I’ll try to explain why below, so 
>>> to have your precious feedbacks on that.
>>>
>>> As far as I understood from Juanjo, during the next Review (M30 
>>> Review) activities related to useless or not exploitable tools/GEs 
>>> will be almost certainly stopped by the reviewers, and this should 
>>> be true also for the Tools Chapter… BUT, given that the date of the 
>>> review will most probably be in January, i.e. M33 of the project, 
>>> there will be really few activities -  in WP9 - or deliverables that 
>>> the Reviewers could freeze at that moment, since all SW (P) 
>>> Deliverables will be submitted at M33.
>>>
>>> Thus, the question here is, is it worthwhile to move all WP9 
>>> deliverables from M33 to M36 so to foster the possible reviewers' 
>>> decision to stop them (thus cutting the remaining related effort)? 
>>> If we keep the delivery date of D9.x.x series at M33, I guess it 
>>> will be difficult for reviewers in January to stop an on-going work 
>>> to release deliverables due in January.
>>>
>>> Of course, these considerations could fit and make sense only if:
>>>
>>> 1)    Due deliverables at M33 will be released on-time
>>>
>>> 2)    New plans - on which each WP9 partner is arguing and thinking 
>>> in these days - do not require to postpone the deadlines of those 
>>> deliverables (delaying also activities). Thus, to understand these 
>>> plans now it’s crucial now, in order to understand the feasibility 
>>> of a (possible) extension also for the Tools Chapter.
>>>
>>> Please kindly let us know what is your thinking about my concerns.
>>>
>>> With many thanks in advance for your attention.
>>>
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>     *From:* Scheibli, Daniel <mailto:daniel.scheibli at sap.com>
>>>     *To:* Davide Dalle Carbonare <mailto:davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it>
>>>     *Cc:* fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu
>>>     <mailto:fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 3:12 PM
>>>     *Subject:* Re: [Fiware-tools] Fwd: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT:
>>>     Extension of theproject duration
>>>
>>>     Dear Davide,
>>>
>>>     actually SAP has concerns regarding the extension and they are
>>>     currently being addresses with the consortium management / Juanjo.
>>>
>>>     Regarding the move of M33 deliverables to M36, my question would
>>>     be what the motivation is? Do we feel that we really need that
>>>
>>>     extra elapsed time? One down side will be, that it will
>>>     definitively increase the expectations towards the outcome. Also
>>>     I see the
>>>
>>>     danger that it further exposes the tools to the situation
>>>     mentioned by Juanjo in the call we had with him last Thurday.
>>>
>>>     Best Regards,
>>>     Daniel
>>>
>>>     *From:* fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu
>>>     [mailto:fiware-tools-bounces at lists.fi-ware.eu] *On Behalf Of*
>>>     Davide Dalle Carbonare
>>>     *Sent:* Mittwoch, 23. Oktober 2013 09:25
>>>     *To:* fiware-tools at lists.fi-ware.eu
>>>     *Subject:* [Fiware-tools] Fwd: [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension
>>>     of the project duration
>>>
>>>     Dear Partners,
>>>         please find below a main from Juanjo on the project extension.
>>>     I also attach the list of deliverables with some updates I've done.
>>>
>>>     We already talked about the project extension during our lasts conf
>>>     calls with all the partners are in favor of that.
>>>     The shift of the dates for our deliverable is from M33 to M36 that
>>>     sounds acceptable from my side.
>>>     If you have some objection, please let me know in time to forward
>>>     them to Juanjo.
>>>
>>>     kind regards,
>>>     Davide
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     -------- Original Message --------
>>>
>>>     *Subject:*
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     [Fiware-wpl] IMPORTANT: Extension of the project duration
>>>
>>>     *Date:*
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     Wed, 23 Oct 2013 07:36:09 +0200
>>>
>>>     *From:*
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es> <mailto:jhierro at tid.es>
>>>
>>>     *To:*
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu <mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>>>     <fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>>>     <mailto:fiware-wpl at lists.fi-ware.eu>,
>>>     fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu <mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>>>     <fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu> <mailto:fiware-wpa at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>>>
>>>     *CC:*
>>>
>>>     	
>>>
>>>     fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu <mailto:fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>>>     <fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu> <mailto:fiware-pcc at lists.fi-ware.eu>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     Hi all,
>>>
>>>       As we have discussed a couple of times, the EC has suggested
>>>     an extension of the FI-WARE project duration for at least 4
>>>     additional months.   This was actually a recommendation given in
>>>     the last review report.
>>>
>>>       This was a topic that I have encouraged you to discuss with
>>>     the teams in your respective chapters.
>>>
>>>       During our meetings, it was also agreed that extension of the
>>>     project would mean a request to move the dates of those
>>>     deliverables linked to release of software and accompanying
>>>     documentation so that they change to be month 36 instead of
>>>     33.   Those deliverables linked to deployment of software on the
>>>     FI-PPP Testbed and FI-LAB which were planned for month 36 would
>>>     also be delayed until month 40.   We didn't discuss this but I
>>>     guess we would agree that some of the final reports to be
>>>     produced should also be delayed from month 36 until month 40.
>>>
>>>       So far, the only feedback I have got is that partners would be
>>>     ok for the proposed extension, provided the mentioned changes in
>>>     deliverable dates are incorporated.
>>>
>>>       With all these considerations in mind, I have produced the
>>>     attached updated version of the Deliverable List. Changes are
>>>     highlighted so that you can easily track them.   Of course, your
>>>     feedback is welcome.
>>>
>>>       Unless I hear about any objection from your side before this
>>>     Friday EOB, I will submit an official response to the EC
>>>     announcing our agreement to extend the project duration another
>>>     4 months (i.e., until end of August 2014), provided the changes
>>>     we propose in the deliverable dates are accepted.    I will use
>>>     the attached table as basis although I'm happy to incorporate
>>>     some additional changes you may consider necessary.
>>>
>>>       Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>     -- Juanjo
>>>
>>>        
>>>
>>>     -------------
>>>
>>>     Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital
>>>
>>>     website:www.tid.es  <http://www.tid.es>
>>>
>>>     email:jhierro at tid.es  <mailto:jhierro at tid.es>
>>>
>>>     twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro
>>>
>>>        
>>>
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>>>
>>>     and Chief Architect
>>>
>>>        
>>>
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>>>
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