Dear Esther,
sorry to push again on this ... it's important for me to know if
challenges have
been officially launched and relative details as far as I may have the
possibility
to present them at an event in few weeks from now.
thank you and
kind regards,
Davide
On 25/10/2013 15:32, Davide Dalle Carbonare wrote:
> Dear Esther,
> first of all, thank you for the work you're doing.
>
> I would like to know if Smart Challenges have been officially launched
> in Santander and,
> if yes, if is it possible to update the page of FI-WARE web site
> reporting the details
> of these challenges.
>
> thak you,
> BR
> Davide
>
> On 14/10/2013 20:40, Esther Paniagua wrote:
>> Dear partners:
>>
>> Thanks to all of you for sharing your views about the challenges. I
>> understand them and I'd like to clarify the issue that Philipp is
>> mentioning regarding the amount of time that involves to create a
>> prototype "only" to participate in a challenge. As it is not
>> something that is going to happen in the first phase -that consists
>> on a call for ideas- only the 20 candidates of each challenge that
>> pass to this next phase will have to develop such prototype. Then,
>> this 20 candidates will have real possibilities to win the prize to
>> finance their idea.
>>
>> We have no more time to spend because we need to take the final
>> decision. I attach a draft post with the information that would be
>> published to launch the first two prizes (Smart Cities an Smart
>> Business) that will be deeply defined in the registration page with
>> the instructions and the legal basis. Maybe the post is useful for
>> you to understand the idea better. Juanjo is working on the technical
>> specifications of each challenge too, so it will be for help too.
>>
>> Attending to your worries, I suggest to include in the description of
>> eath challenge, as well as in the post, a mention about our aim
>> regarding the start-ups creation, in order to clarify our objective
>> and to define better the kind of projects that we look for (that is,
>> proposals that may have a real impact while being feasible).
>>
>> Please, send us additional comments before tomorrow evening. We'd
>> like to take the opportunity to launch the challenges during the
>> FI-WARE event in Santander this week, so we have to be very agile.
>>
>> Thanks for all in advance :)
>>
>> --
>> Esther Paniagua
>> Coordinadora de Campus Labs
>> Futura Networks
>>
>>
>> 2013/10/6 stefano de panfilis <stefano.depanfilis at eng.it
>> <mailto:stefano.depanfilis at eng.it>>
>>
>> dear juanjo,
>>
>> i perfectly agree with your answer, and exactly becouse of that, the
>> approach you explained should be better emphasised in the call
>> for the
>> context.
>>
>> i think also the idea of funnelling the proposals with an
>> intermediatery step is important and gives to the context the
>> level of
>> attractiveness for smes that philipp is aiming at. again also this
>> should be well formalised and explained in the call for the context.
>>
>> ciao,
>> stefano
>>
>> 2013/10/6 Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es <mailto:jhierro at tid.es>>:
>> > Dear Philipp,
>> >
>> > What you say maybe true for the kind of hackathons you run at
>> a Campus
>> > Party event, i.e., hackathons that start and end at the event.
>> We all
>> > agree that we shouldn't go for too high prizes at those
>> hackathons and we
>> > won't.
>> >
>> > However, what it will be launched this time is different.
>> It pretends to
>> > be something that implies funding a more complete development,
>> that's why it
>> > lasts several months. A different matter is that we define an
>> intermediate
>> > milestone that will help to perform a first selection of
>> contestants who
>> > will be paid to travel to Campus Party Brasil to run the final
>> (they are
>> > expected to evolve whatever proof of concept they have
>> developed at that
>> > time but this will give them a signal that it's worth investing
>> and continue
>> > the development because at least they will be able to showcase
>> their
>> > application in the Campus Party Brasil event which may help
>> them to gain
>> > some visibility for their application).
>> >
>> > Startups or SMEs who have an application already in mind (or have
>> > developed some early versions of it) and believe incorporation
>> of FI-WARE
>> > technologies could fit in their architecture evolution plan are
>> welcome to
>> > participate in these challenges and they are indeed our target
>> audience.
>> >
>> > To some extend, these challenges will follow a formula very
>> similar to
>> > what are going to be the Open Calls targeted to SMEs in Call 3
>> (Use Case
>> > Expansion projects) and indeed I believe we will extract very
>> interesting
>> > lessons during the process.
>> >
>> > Last but not least, despite you may have the impression that the
>> > contestants to the FI-WARE prizes in Campus Party Europe in
>> London where
>> > simply students or people who just wanted to play and see
>> whether they could
>> > win some prize at the event, it was interesting to learn that
>> some of them
>> > are already planning (or in the process) of running a startup
>> ... and they
>> > expressed their interest to learn whether usage of FI-WARE
>> technologies
>> > could help them to catch some funding.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > -- Juanjo
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital
>> > website: www.tid.es <http://www.tid.es>
>> > email: jhierro at tid.es <mailto:jhierro at tid.es>
>> > twitter: twitter.com/JuanjoHierro <http://twitter.com/JuanjoHierro>
>> >
>> > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator
>> > and Chief Architect
>> >
>> > FI-PPP Architecture Board chairman
>> >
>> > You can follow FI-WARE at:
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>> > twitter: http://twitter.com/FIware
>> > linkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/groups/FIWARE-4239932
>> >
>> > On 06/10/13 11:14, Philipp Slusallek wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Sorry for being (too?) late with my response but we had a big
>> review
>> > last week as well as a long weekend due to a national holiday.
>> >
>> > This is the first time I hear about these plans of attracting
>> developers
>> > and I am not too convinced about this concept at all. So here
>> are my 2
>> > cents worth.
>> >
>> > Competitions are only attractive to really small groups
>> developers who
>> > can work on this in their spare time, such as students or
>> hobbyists. Its
>> > not too interesting for serious SMEs or Web entrepreneurs that
>> struggle
>> > to keep their income and cannot spend weeks of time building a
>> prototype
>> > for a competition where its is a big gamble whether to get any
>> return on
>> > the investment. Anyone with a serious business plan and idea,
>> better
>> > stays focused on getting this to work. Google, facebook, etc.
>> were not
>> > founded through a competition. The goal for FI-WARE should
>> therefore not
>> > be to target people that "gamble" but helping people with a solid
>> > business idea to more successfully execute it in the context
>> and with
>> > the support of the FI-PPP.
>> >
>> > A special exception may be open source developers that work for the
>> > "greater good". But if this is the target (which might actually
>> be a
>> > good idea, similar to the Google Summer of Code) than the whole
>> thing
>> > should be structured differently. Google, for example, does not
>> hand out
>> > price money but funds the execution of the best and brightest
>> ideas.
>> > This actually helps getting the good ideas implemented and does
>> not just
>> > hand over big sums of money.
>> >
>> > When we are targeting small developers through the competitions
>> then a
>> > price money of several tens of kEUR seems way too high. This
>> are likely
>> > not the people that necessarily will create a start-up or other
>> business
>> > idea around their project with this money. It takes way more than a
>> > quick good idea to be economically successful and I would even
>> say that
>> > we should not even encourage such a development.
>> >
>> > Maybe I am too harsh about the campuseros and missing the point
>> here (I
>> > was not at the event). But it is consistent with what I have
>> heard and
>> > is also the clear opinion in FI-Content after quite long
>> discussions
>> > about exactly this topic. There we also have competitions but
>> the price
>> > money is way smaller. Also our competitions are only a small
>> addition to
>> > our other activities targeting a very different audience
>> (students etc.,
>> > see above) than we do with the OpenCall or Phase-III, where we
>> > specifically target different groups of serious developers with
>> very
>> > different means and therefore necessarily more money per proposal.
>> >
>> > I realize it is late and there is not a lot of time to still change
>> > anything. Anyway, I believe its worth considering and maybe
>> taking into
>> > account to the degree still possible.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Philipp
>> >
>> >
>> > Am 02.10.2013 00:06, schrieb Esther Paniagua:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I'm Esther Paniagua, coordinator of Campus Labs at Futura Networks.
>> >
>> > I'm attaching a post that we've prepared for the launching of
>> the two
>> > first challenges, that may be of help to understand the process.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/10/1 Davide Dalle Carbonare <davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it
>> <mailto:davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it>
>> > <mailto:davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it
>> <mailto:davide.dallecarbonare at eng.it>>>
>> >
>> > Dear Juanjo,
>> > the format sounds good to me, I think the first two
>> challenges,
>> > for the first round are fine.
>> > I wait for additional details especially regarding the
>> final phase
>> > at Campus Party.
>> >
>> > kind regards,
>> > Davide
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 01/10/2013 17:53, Juanjo Hierro wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Futura Networks will send an email with further details,
>> but let
>> > me briefly describe what they have proposed and we need to
>> approve
>> > this week.
>> >
>> > As you know, there were aprox. 870 KEUR in prizes to be
>> consumed
>> > until end of the proyect. Of these 870 KEUR, 17.500EUR
>> were consumed
>> > in Campus Party Europe in London (2.500 EUR of one of the
>> special
>> > awards were not given away).
>> >
>> > The idea is now to launch a number of challenges which
>> will be
>> > run along a number of months. We would start launching two
>> > thematic challenges, one focused on Smart Cities and
>> another one
>> > focused on Smart Businesses.
>> >
>> > The two challenges would be launched this week and we would
>> > define a deadline (mid November) to collect proposals.
>> Proposers
>> > who accompany their ideas with proof of concepts developed on
>> > FI-LAB, etc will be given preference. In December we would
>> > select 20 proposals for each of the challenges and we will
>> invite
>> > two people of each of the selected teams to travel to the
>> Campus
>> > Party Brasil, early February 2014.
>> >
>> > The selected teams attending the Campus Party Brasil
>> event will
>> > run a final there so that the final prizes are given away:
>> >
>> > * 1st prize: 75 KEUR
>> > * 2nd prize: 40 KEUR
>> > * third prize: 20 KEUR
>> > * two additional special awards (e.g., "Young
>> developer"): 5.000
>> > EUR each
>> >
>> >
>> > During the Campus Party Brasil event we would launch the
>> second
>> > round of challenges, targeted to be given away at the
>> Campus Party
>> > Europe (most likely to take place in Spain during July
>> 2014). A
>> > similar schema would be followed. We would define an interim
>> > milestone to select the 40 best proposals and pay them the
>> travel
>> > expenses to Campus Party Europe where a final would take place.
>> >
>> > There are several options for this second round of
>> challenges,
>> > we may go for thematic challenges (we didn't have too appealing
>> > themes) or we may go for a big contest to be referred as
>> "FI-WARE
>> > Excellence Awards" (with total 290KEUR in prizes) where
>> there would
>> > not be restriction about the theme to be addressed and
>> focus would
>> > be given on finding the applications that make best usage of
>> > FI-WARE technologies. Another possibility is to find
>> another two
>> > thematic challenges, or do a mix: run one thematic
>> challenge and
>> > one "FI-WARE Excellenge Awards" (in this case, each with
>> 145 KEUR in
>> > prizes).
>> >
>> > Personally, I would go fo a single challenge on "FI-WARE
>> > Excellence Awards" with total 290 KEUR in prizes, but your
>> feedback
>> > is welcome.
>> >
>> > The launch of the first two challenges on Smart Cities
>> and Smart
>> > Businesses (with 145 KEUR in prizes each) look more clear
>> to me and,
>> > since we are running a bit out of time, I would go for
>> advertising
>> > them at the Campusero Community this Thursday 17:00 unless
>> anyone
>> > has an objection.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > -- Juanjo
>> >
>> > -------------
>> > Product Development and Innovation (PDI) - Telefonica Digital
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>> > email: jhierro at tid.es <mailto:jhierro at tid.es>
>> <mailto:jhierro at tid.es <mailto:jhierro at tid.es>>
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>> <http://twitter.com/JuanjoHierro> <http://twitter.com/JuanjoHierro>
>> >
>> > FI-WARE (European Future Internet Core Platform) Coordinator
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>> >
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