Dear Jacques, Adding people to the mailing list is an easy task knowing how mailman works, that's the reason why we offer to help. Angeles can perfectly assist to you in this if necessary. Any person or organization who is member of the FIWARE Foundation has the right to join any FIWARE Foundation Mission Support Committee (we have to update the charter to also include people/organizations whose membership application is in process as it occurs in other bodies like ETSI, etc ... it is simply that organizations won't be able to vote until their membership process is finalized). So indeed we should not block this that long. I don't see the rationale behind waiting until end of the week. As a formal step, the FIWARE Foundation can communicate that the FIWARE Mundus MSC has been established to members of the Community using the existing channels (mailing lists, mobilize.io although is going to be replaced soon, etc). This will be done today or tomorrow. In such communication, we will explain them how they can apply for being included (this could be simply an email to the mailing list or use the mechanism for subscription to lists that the own mailman tool provides). We have to move fast. I don't see why discussions that belong to the FIWARE Mundus Committee have to be discussed first in FI-Global and then later in this Committee. This is a fundamental issue to bear in mind. FI-Global is a project which is instrumental for funding certain FIWARE Mundus activities. That's true at this very moment. But it is not that things have to be first discussed in FI-Global and then later in this Committee. Is it a topic of interest to several people in the FIWARE Community and not just the FI-Global partners? Then, it is a topic that should be discussed in this Committee, no matter whether part of the activities concerning that topic are funded through FI-Global or not. We have to bear in mind a long-term and more global perspective in which a) activities may persist beyond the duration and number of projects funding those activities, b) people involved in such activities may have different ways of funding their participation. This will make activities more sustainable over time. Besides, leadership of those activities will not be decided on success to get a project funded at a given time but meritocracy and the history of engagement of people contributing over time. I don't see why someone who has been a chairman of certain Committee has to stop being the chairman of a Committee because some large project has got funded where his/her organization is not involved. If he/she can still devote his/her time to play the role and he/she has the support of the Community, why not. Angeles is fully empowered to represent the FIWARE Foundation Press Office and make progress on the discussion of listed topics either by email or face to face so, please, don't delay then further. It's fine if you want to wait until the face to face meeting that you will have tomorrow, to which Angeles and Stefano will be attending. However, it is important that agreements and actions derived for these points at the meeting are shared through this mailing list right after the meeting, so that those members who are not able to attend the face to face meeting tomorrow can catch up and follow up the discussion afterwards. Cheers, Juanjo On 27/03/2017 09:57, Jacques Magen (InterInnov) wrote: > Dear Juanjo and all, > > Again to clarify (done in another thread of emails): > >> @Jacques: shouldn't we add in the list at least those FIWARE >> Foundation members involved in the FIWARE Mexico project? You have >> privileges to add them directly in the mailing list and give them >> access to the GDrive folder, but happy to help it and do it for >> you. Unless you see any objections, I will add them tomorrow noon. > We need to put in place a formal process for adding people to the list > and giving them access to the folder. This shall be discussed at the > FI-GLOBAL meeting this week and then done before the end of this week. > >> @Jacques, @Angeles: there are some initial action points in the >> charter on which the FIWARE Press Office could start to work. I >> suggest that you run any discussions on this topic within this >> mailing list and this way start to have activities running. At >> least, I identify the following: >> >> * coordination of participation in events >> * coordination of presence in social networks and press media >> * development of the FIWARE Mundus web page on the FIWARE website >> * design of specific FIWARE Mundus marketing material and joint >> revision of marketing material where FIWARE Mundus perspective is >> relevant >> > We need first to clarify the issue within FI-GLOBAL before expanding > to the Mundus Committee. Again this shall be discussed at the project > meeting and then we can expand the discussion into the Committee. > > Best regards, > > Jacques > > -- > > Jacques Magen > > *jmagen at interinnov.eu* > > Tel.: +33 9 81 03 98 49 / +33 7 60 46 50 23 > > www.interinnov.eu <http://www.interinnov.eu> > > Twitter: @interinnov_eu <http://twitter.com/interinnov_eu> > > Skype: jacques.magen > > Le 26/03/2017 à 06:47, Juanjo Hierro a écrit : >> >> Dear all, >> >> Please read this mail carefully. Sorry because it is a long mail >> but includes some important info and also identifies some initial >> action points. >> >> This mail intends to serve for kicking-off the activities of the >> FIWARE Mundus Committee. Formally speaking, the FIWARE Mundus >> Committee will initially work in interim mode until it is formally >> approved by the FIWARE Foundation Board of Directors (but we don't >> expect major issues). >> >> Besides this mailing list, the following shared GDrive folder is >> available for members of the Committee: >> >> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4G2SvO4TLuLN1NSUUF3SEhQUDA?usp=sharing >> >> The charter proposed for this Committee is now available as shared >> google docs in that folder, but also through this link: >> >> https://docs.google.com/a/fiware.org/document/d/1l_ffAUnziy5GwWiuGew2qvIgLkb-Wxm2lLHnkkQ6dyo/edit?usp=sharing >> >> As stated in the Charter, Jacques Magen will act as interim Chair, >> while Estan Fernández, Geraldine Quetin, Pierre-Yves Danet and Geraud >> Lacaze will act as interim vice-chairs. >> >> Members of the BoO of the FIWARE Foundation as well as Angeles >> Tejado from the FIWARE Press Office are members of the mailing list. >> >> @Jacques: shouldn't we add in the list at least those FIWARE >> Foundation members involved in the FIWARE Mexico project? You have >> privileges to add them directly in the mailing list and give them >> access to the GDrive folder, but happy to help it and do it for >> you. Unless you see any objections, I will add them tomorrow noon. >> >> @Jacques, @Angeles: there are some initial action points in the >> charter on which the FIWARE Press Office could start to work. I >> suggest that you run any discussions on this topic within this >> mailing list and this way start to have activities running. At >> least, I identify the following: >> >> * coordination of participation in events >> * coordination of presence in social networks and press media >> * development of the FIWARE Mundus web page on the FIWARE website >> * design of specific FIWARE Mundus marketing material and joint >> revision of marketing material where FIWARE Mundus perspective is >> relevant >> >> Discussion about these topics should take place in this mailing >> list and not any specific EU funded project mailing list (e.g., any >> FI-Global mailing list that I presume may exist). Otherwise, >> coordination of certain activities (and any of the above are good >> examples) would be rather difficult, overall taking account that it >> may need engagement of other active members in the Community >> (relevant FIWARE Foundation members involved in the FIWARE Mexico >> project again an example, but I can imagine additional members can >> join). >> >> I understand that it may take some time to get used to it, but we >> should avoid using specific project mailing lists or shared folders >> for discussion on topics that fit nicely as topics for discussion on >> the FIWARE Mundus Committee mailing list. In general, mailing lists >> associated to projects should end being used just for very internal >> and specific projects exchanges (preparation of project reviews, some >> internal project discussions, etc). We have work that way regarding >> the FIWARE TSC and I can say it is perfectly fine and have multiple >> advantages: >> >> * You can incorporate others in the discussion for activities where >> it is true that some people may be funded through a given >> project, but others can and may wish to contribute. Don't forget >> that the FIWARE Foundation is an open community so it is great >> that activities of the different Committees are open to those >> willing to contribute. >> * The activities and history of the exchange of mails and documents >> remain despite the perimeter of projects funding those activities >> change. >> * It will help leaders of the Committees to become recognized >> leaders of the activities within the Community. >> >> The FIWARE Foundation and Press Office will oversee that this >> approach is effective and will support you in such transition from a >> project-oriented way of working to a foundation-community way of working. >> >> Cheers, >> >> -- >> JuanjoHierroEmailSignature >> Juanjo Hierro >> >> Chief Technology Officer >> FIWARE Foundation >> FIWARE Foundation >> email: juanjose.hierro at fiware.org >> www: http://fiware.org >> twitter: @JuanjoHierro @FIWARE >> >> >> >> >> List of members in the FIWARE Mundus Committee mailing list: >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> You can get more information about our cookies and privacy policies on the following links: >> -http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/FIWARE_Privacy_Policy >> -http://forge.fiware.org/plugins/mediawiki/wiki/fiware/index.php/Cookies_Policy_FIWARE >> >> Fiware-mundus-committee mailing list >> Fiware-mundus-committee at lists.fiware.org >> https://lists.fiware.org/listinfo/fiware-mundus-committee >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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