Hi Stefano,
What you say is true but I wanted to provide Arian an answer that were consistent with what he understands is the PCC, and its responsibilities, according to the DoW. We didn't know what Arian was actually looking for, so we preferred to respond carefully.
Looking at the DoW, I found that what is described there as work of the PCC has been actually split between what is being addressed in the joint WPLs/WPAs follow-up confcalls and what is being addressed in what we use to refer internally as "PCC meetings". This is not an issue from my perspective, because it can easily be explained saying that the PCC has two kind of global coordination meetings, that way allowing each meeting to be attended by different representatives from each company depending on the matters being addressed. But all this has to be explained properly.
The provided answer describes what we are actually doing in a way that is consistent with the DoW. I wanted to avoid any criticism that may come from Arian if we didn't look consistent. On the other hand, I wanted to take the opportunity to show him that the project has tools and proper coordination instruments in place.
The reason why I strongly recommend you to read it is because we should all be able to provide the same answer if asked separately. I wouldn't like us to fall in any contradiction if we are asked.
Nothing else. No specific strange/Machiavellian reason to hide.
Best regards,
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On 21/10/12 23:37, stefano de panfilis wrote:
dear juanjo (only to you and pcc),
he asked for the plan of future meetings of the pcc only while you reply with the overall strategy of the project coordination.
this is also good, but i do not understand why you did that way. any specific reason we do not know and we should?
ciao,
stefano
2012/10/21 Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es<mailto:jhierro at tid.es>>
Dear all,
Arian Zwegers asked us for meetings about the PCC in the following 3-4 months ... therefore we have sent to him the attached response clarifying how PCC activities (as described in the DoW) are organized and how the different meetings for coordination of FI-WARE activities are organized. We forward our response to you for overall alignment.
Note that the PCC, as stated in the DoW, carry out activities that we have split into two different kind of meetings (besides meetings linked to Task Forces whenever they are created) for obvious practical reasons:
* Global Technical Coordination Activities: these map to our weekly joint WPLs/WPAs confcalls called and discussion driven through the fiware-wpl and fiware-wpa mailing lists.
* Global Administrative/Strategic Coordination Activities: these map to meetings called and discussion driven through the fiware-pcc mailing list.
All this is explained in detail in the email sent to Arian that I would strongly recommend to read.
Cheers,
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Subject: Re: FI-WARE PCC meetings
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 10:44:50 +0200
From: Juanjo Hierro <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es>
To: Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu<mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu>
CC: jimenez at tid.es<mailto:jimenez at tid.es>, mcp at tid.es<mailto:mcp at tid.es>, "jhierro >> \"Juan J. Hierro\"" <jhierro at tid.es><mailto:jhierro at tid.es>
Dear Arian,
Sorry for the delay in responding to this. Honestly speaking, it got forgotten ... so thanks for the reminder.
According to the DoW, the PCC takes care of the technical overall management of the activities and in particular:
1. Approving major technical decisions and the definition of the technical roadmap of the Project;
2. reviewing plans and activities of each WP in the Project, together with the corresponding WPLs;
3. reviewing the overall quality of WP and deliverables;
4. making proposals to the GA for allocating the Project's budget in accordance with the CA, reviewing and proposing budget reallocations to the Parties;
5. making proposals to the GA about Defaults in obligations by any Party so that the GA can take an informed decision;
6. proposing to the General Assembly the plan for using and disseminating the Foreground in accordance with the CA, including proposals for IPR development;
7. consideration of input from other PPP projects (CSA, UA) and decision on implementation. It is recognized that input from the UA is crucial for the technical work and every effort should be made to accept those proposals. In the rare special cases when no clear technical decision at the Architecture Board is achieved, the GA will re-consider those special cases with due regard to the PPP programme’s overall success.
8. proposing to the GA procedures and tools for the marking and handling of information exchanged between Parties in the performance of the Project; and evaluating opportunities for co-operation with other projects, outside the PPP, and proposing to the General Assembly that it proposes to the Parties that they enter into a Project Co-operation Agreement;
9. generating, updating and distributing to the Parties, a schedule of proposed meetings of committees of standards organisations relevant for the potential submission of Foreground as standards proposals.
Besides, it is also mentioned in the DoW that the PCC holds two type of meetings:
* Global coordination meetings, to consider general project aspects.
* Specific meetings to follow-up progress of a specific WP. Those meetings will not require the presence of the full PCC but will be attended by the WPL and those people designated by the WPL.
The way in which all this is implemented in FI-WARE is that Global Coordination meetings are splitted in two:
* Global technical coordination meetings devoted to follow-up technical process of the whole FI-WARE project systematically take place every week or every two-weeks depending of the period. Since more or less May, we are meeting every week. These meetings involve the WPLs and WPAs of every WP and there, we take care of points 1, 2, 3, 7 and 9 of the list above. Also Axel Fasse attends these meetings despite he is not a WPL as such (Uwe Riss is the WPL of WP3). This is because his role supporting overall coordination.
* Global administrative/strategic coordination meetings take place whenever this is required. However experience demonstrates that there is no more than one month and half time between two consecutive meetings, sometimes several in one month. We take care of points 4, 5, 6 and 8 of the list above. These meetings also involve the WPLs of every WP, despite in this case we agreed that it would be companies leading a WP, instead of the WPL who attend these meetings. This was to allow that a more senior executive participates instead of the WPL himself. As an example, Axel Fasse from SAP, Yaron Wolfsthal from IBM or Nuria de Lama from ATOS attend this meeting (though Alex Glikson, WPL of Cloud uses to attend as well these meetings).
Besides, specific meetings are derived from Global Technical Coordination or Global Administrative/Strategic meetings, which do not necessarily have to involve all WPLs/WPAs and many times requires participation of some experts on the matter. We typically refer to them as "Task Forces". Some examples are:
* meetings to deal with a specific technical issue (e.g., how to coordinate definition of NGSI-related issues)
* meetings to deal with specific coordination of some project activity (e.g., meeting to coordinate/follow-up delivery of some concrete deliverables)
* meetings to deal with some specific administrative/strategic coordination activity (e.g., reaching consensus about a single FI-WARE Legal Notice for FI-WARE Open Specifications)
Communication regarding the two types of Global Coordination meetings take place through different mailing lists because people are not the same (although many of them are in both). While communication regarding Global Technical Coordination flows through the ordinary WPLs and WPAs mailing lists, i.e., fiware-wpl and fiware-wpa mailing lists, communication regarding Global Administrative/Strategic Coordination flows through a mailing list named fiware-pcc. Very detailed minutes are derived from each of these meetings. Recently, regarding minutes of the Global Technical Coordination meetings, we have decided to send minutes directly to the consortia the day after each of the joint WPLs/WPAs meeting to accelerate communication and stimulate awareness about APs taken.
Some of these specific meetings become permanent and lead to creation of a specific mailing list where discussion takes place at regular intervals (e.g., there is a specific fiware-ngsi mailing list dealing with discussion of NGSI-related topics, relevant to several WPs)
Besides this, each WP has a weekly meeting and I attend some of them to have a more close look at what is going on.
Hope this summary helps. If you have further questions, don't hesitate to ask. Of course, if you have any feedback, it will be rather welcome.
Best regards,
-- Juanjo
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On 20/10/12 16:04, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu<mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu> wrote:
Any response?
From: Miguel Carrillo [mailto:mcp at tid.es]
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 5:36 PM
To: ZWEGERS Arian (CNECT)
Cc: JUAN JOSE HIERRO SUREDA; JOSE JIMENEZ DELGADO
Subject: Re: FI-WARE PCC meetings
Dear Arian,
I CC Juanjo and Jose who are the ones who best can answer this question because they are part of the PCC.
Best regards,
Miguel
El 15/10/2012 16:05, Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu<mailto:Arian.ZWEGERS at ec.europa.eu> escribió:
Dear Miguel,
Is there a schedule for the FI-WARE PCC meeting?
According to the DoW, the PCC meets regularly every month, either physically or virtually, and works continuously between the meetings via e-mail, chat and audio/video conferences.
What are the planned PCC meetings for the next 3-4 months?
Thanks,
Arian.
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